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There seem to be many HW 'prospects' out there, but few who really seem to have the goods. Out of the following list, who has the best chance of becoming champion of the world? Pick your guy and explain why, I'll let the poll run seven days and you can change your pick based on what others post. If I missed someone who is a year or two away, put him in and vote for 'Other.'

Probably Hrgovic. He has the edge in the opposition level. However, it doesn't reflect always. Joyce has a forced run, which is logical for his age. Kabayel kinda emerged with Chisora win, but he is wasting his time now, Chisora has even regained the position over him. The situation is changing constantly. Gorman seems to be close too, as he is fighting former belt-challenger next.

DrDuke wrote: ↑15 Dec 2018, 16:36 Probably Hrgovic. He has the edge in the opposition level. However, it doesn't reflect always. Joyce has a forced run, which is logical for his age. Kabayel kinda emerged with Chisora win, but he is wasting his time now, Chisora has even regained the position over him. The situation is changing constantly. Gorman seems to be close too, as he is fighting former belt-challenger next.

I left Joyce off because of his age. Don't really consider him a prospect, more like a soon-to-be contender. Don't see him winning a major belt anyway.

oogiebe wrote: ↑15 Dec 2018, 16:38

DrDuke wrote: ↑15 Dec 2018, 16:36 Probably Hrgovic. He has the edge in the opposition level. However, it doesn't reflect always. Joyce has a forced run, which is logical for his age. Kabayel kinda emerged with Chisora win, but he is wasting his time now, Chisora has even regained the position over him. The situation is changing constantly. Gorman seems to be close too, as he is fighting former belt-challenger next.

I left Joyce off because of his age. Don't really consider him a prospect, more like a soon-to-be contender. Don't see him winning a major belt anyway.

For the moment I don't see him winning a major belt too.

I see Hrgovic powering through the needed opponents to get such an opportunity, plus he has backers that will pay good.

He could take a fight with Takam, Parker or Jennings and get a win that would be sufficient enough in the current climate to get the no. 1 contender spot for any belt.

TheGingerBomber wrote: ↑15 Dec 2018, 17:02 I see Hrgovic powering through the needed opponents to get such an opportunity, plus he has backers that will pay good.

He could take a fight with Takam, Parker or Jennings and get a win that would be sufficient enough in the current climate to get the no. 1 contender spot for any belt.

Yes !

oogiebe wrote: ↑15 Dec 2018, 16:38

DrDuke wrote: ↑15 Dec 2018, 16:36 Probably Hrgovic. He has the edge in the opposition level. However, it doesn't reflect always. Joyce has a forced run, which is logical for his age. Kabayel kinda emerged with Chisora win, but he is wasting his time now, Chisora has even regained the position over him. The situation is changing constantly. Gorman seems to be close too, as he is fighting former belt-challenger next.

I left Joyce off because of his age. Don't really consider him a prospect, more like a soon-to-be contender. Don't see him winning a major belt anyway.

I did a similar thread that had Joe Joyce out in front of Hrgovic back in September, a little over 3 months ago. I'm going to re-post it now.

viewtopic.php?f=22&t=224637&p=4997735#p4997735

Hrgovic, Joe Joyce and Daniel Dubois are the guys that seem to be on the fastest track to a major title fight.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑15 Dec 2018, 17:26 Hrgovic, Joe Joyce and Daniel Dubois are the guys that seem to be on the fastest track to a major title fight.

I agree totally. Dubois was actually supposed to fight today but had to pull out due to some kind of illness. I think Joyce should be included here, even though he is 33. Someone who only has 7 pro fights is STILL a prospect and FAR MORE LEGIT than guys like Jermaine Franklin ( ) Nathan Gorman ( ) and Tom Schwarz ( )

Hrgović, and most of those mentioned will never get a title shot.

I believe that Joyce gets exposed way before a title shot as a plodding; slow swinging; wide open incarnation of Big John Tate.

Best Coast wrote: ↑15 Dec 2018, 17:29

gilgamesh wrote: ↑15 Dec 2018, 17:26 Hrgovic, Joe Joyce and Daniel Dubois are the guys that seem to be on the fastest track to a major title fight.

I agree totally. Dubois was actually supposed to fight today but had to pull out due to some kind of illness. I think Joyce should be included here, even though he is 33. Someone who only has 7 pro fights is STILL a prospect and FAR MORE LEGIT than guys like Jermaine Franklin ( ) Nathan Gorman ( ) and Tom Schwarz ( )

I watch so much vid of Joe Joyce wondering what everyone else sees. He's a plodding; easy to hit; and lousy fighter.

Best Coast wrote: ↑15 Dec 2018, 17:29

gilgamesh wrote: ↑15 Dec 2018, 17:26 Hrgovic, Joe Joyce and Daniel Dubois are the guys that seem to be on the fastest track to a major title fight.

I agree totally. Dubois was actually supposed to fight today but had to pull out due to some kind of illness. I think Joyce should be included here, even though he is 33. Someone who only has 7 pro fights is STILL a prospect and FAR MORE LEGIT than guys like Jermaine Franklin ( ) Nathan Gorman ( ) and Tom Schwarz ( )

dubois hasnt been moved any faster then gorman even though there both 21-22 , dont know why youd agree that dubs one of the most fast tracked but then eye roll at gorman. lol do you think crap guys like dl jones were good tests because of there padded unbeaten record?

gorms now fighting the guy dubois was incidentally, hell have a better record then dub

Despite the OP's obvious bias against Joe Joyce he's the highest profile prospect internationally & the furthest advanced fighter on this list ( with Hrgovic coming in at a very close second place though he hasn't expanded his profile outside of Europe yet as Joyce has ) so he's likely to get a title opportunity first.

sweetviolenturge wrote: ↑17 Dec 2018, 18:08 Despite the OP's obvious bias against Joe Joyce he's the highest profile prospect internationally & the furthest advanced fighter on this list ( with Hrgovic coming in at a very close second place though he hasn't expanded his profile outside of Europe yet as Joyce has ) so he's likely to get a title opportunity first.

I'm totally biased on Joyce, because he's over-hyped. Have you actually watched him fight?

he looks awful but hes been effective, and also imo deserved olympic gold

jamamb wrote: ↑17 Dec 2018, 18:41 he looks awful but hes been effective, and also imo deserved olympic gold

Effective, yes, however I suspect he'll get exposed on the next level. Slow pondering sloth. Has power but still looks 'forced' to me.

you may be right but he has been beating guys with prettier styles for years now

jamamb wrote: ↑17 Dec 2018, 18:44 you may be right but he has been beating guys with prettier styles for years now

It's funny; I watched Joyce against Usyk from six years ago, and I don't see all that much difference in Joyce today, except he's bigger. He just looks like he's learning to fight. I keep watching his vids and I just don't see the allure. Sure he's ko'd each of his foes thus far, but that ain't saying much. I'm trying, Jam...I'm REALLY trying...

btw it seems dychkos pro career has pretty much gone untalked about , not really much coverage

jamamb wrote: ↑17 Dec 2018, 18:57 btw it seems dychkos pro career has pretty much gone untalked about , not really much coverage

I've been following him a bit. He's was busy first half of year and disappeared since July. Boy is intimidating and can smack.

jamamb wrote: ↑17 Dec 2018, 16:32

Best Coast wrote: ↑15 Dec 2018, 17:29

gilgamesh wrote: ↑15 Dec 2018, 17:26 Hrgovic, Joe Joyce and Daniel Dubois are the guys that seem to be on the fastest track to a major title fight.

I agree totally. Dubois was actually supposed to fight today but had to pull out due to some kind of illness. I think Joyce should be included here, even though he is 33. Someone who only has 7 pro fights is STILL a prospect and FAR MORE LEGIT than guys like Jermaine Franklin ( ) Nathan Gorman ( ) and Tom Schwarz ( )

dubois hasnt been moved any faster then gorman even though there both 21-22 , dont know why youd agree that dubs one of the most fast tracked but then eye roll at gorman. lol do you think crap guys like dl jones were good tests because of there padded unbeaten record?

gorms now fighting the guy dubois was incidentally, hell have a better record then dub

I think Dubois is a better prospect than Gorman. Time will tell...

Dubois was as impressive against Kevin Johnson as Filip Hrgovic was and everyone here seems to agree that Hrgovic is the best current HW prospect. I'm not saying Dubois is in Hrgovic's league yet but I really believe he is a step above Gorman. He also has a bigger name outside Britain than Gorman and that should factor into which of the two gets a world title shot first. We'll see how it plays out...

After the unification fight determined between Wilder/Joshua/Fury in 2020

-First will be Zhang Zhilei (though he is older he is undefeated and has fought in obscurity but is a Chinese Olympic Madalist and will draw millions in Chinese TV),
-then Kabayel and then
- the winner between the Hrgovic vs Ajagba fight on the unification card of 2020.

actjac wrote: ↑17 Dec 2018, 22:50 After the unification fight determined between Wilder/Joshua/Fury in 2020

-First will be Zhang Zhilei (though he is older he is undefeated and has fought in obscurity but is a Chinese Olympic Madalist and will draw millions in Chinese TV),
-then Kabayel and then
- the winner between the Hrgovic vs Ajagba fight on the unification card of 2020.

I can see one of the champions fighting Zhilei in China. That fight would make some serious money.
It could be one of the biggest financial fights in history. Even though it shouldn't be much of a challenge for Joshua/Wilder or Fury.


If this is held in the Guandong stadium in China the seating for soccer is over 80,000 so for a boxing card it should easily hold over 100,000

not sayng dub isnt a better prospect....but not seeing how hes been among the most fast tracked if gorm is merely some lowly eye roll who shouldnt be on here. no way has there been that much of a dfference.

going ahead to 2019 gorm will prob have the better record tbh and hes already higher on boxrec. lol johnsons not really a 'hot' win these days. . now....if were going on who has the more impressive physique ill admit dubs way ahead there!

dub had 3 bouts in 2018 whch isnt much at all for a prospect. usyk had just as many and that was at top level.