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Current p4p 10
Posted: 21 Dec 2018, 12:31
by Wuuupa
1. Lomachenko
2. Usyk
3. Canelo
4. Spence
5. Crawford
6. Inoue
7. Garcia
8. Joshua
9. Wangek
10. Santa Cruz
Honorable mention: GGG, Alvarez, Bivol, Jacobs
Re: Current p4p 10
Posted: 21 Dec 2018, 12:51
by jamamb
1. crawford
2. loma
3. garcia
4. canelo
5. usyk
something like that for top 5, lot of debatable stuff though i do feel confident in craw at 1
Re: Current p4p 10
Posted: 21 Dec 2018, 12:59
by DrDuke
jamamb wrote: ↑21 Dec 2018, 12:51
1. crawford
2. loma
3. garcia
4. canelo
5. usyk
something like that for top 5, lot of debatable stuff though i do feel confident in craw at 1
I agree, that after top-5 it becomes more difficult to judge, but I want to make the same top-5 with completely different order, like that:
1. Usyk
2. Loma
3. Crawford
4. Canelo
5. Garcia
Re: Current p4p 10
Posted: 21 Dec 2018, 13:04
by boxing_rocks
Loma
Usyk
Spence
Crawford
Inoue
GGG
Garcia
Canelo
Wangek
Hurd
Re: Current p4p 10
Posted: 21 Dec 2018, 13:10
by Ruthless-RKO
Wuuupa wrote: ↑21 Dec 2018, 12:31
1. Lomachenko
2. Usyk
3. Canelo
4. Spence
5. Crawford
6. Inoue
7. Garcia
8. Joshua
9. Wangek
10. Santa Cruz
Memorable mention: GGG, Alvarez, Bivol, Jacobs
You mean honorable?

Re: Current p4p 10
Posted: 21 Dec 2018, 14:10
by Wuuupa
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑21 Dec 2018, 13:10
Wuuupa wrote: ↑21 Dec 2018, 12:31
1. Lomachenko
2. Usyk
3. Canelo
4. Spence
5. Crawford
6. Inoue
7. Garcia
8. Joshua
9. Wangek
10. Santa Cruz
Memorable mention: GGG, Alvarez, Bivol, Jacobs
You mean honorable?

Re: Current p4p 10
Posted: 21 Dec 2018, 14:29
by Verdi
Crawford
Canelo
Loma
Garcia
Usyk
Re: Current p4p 10
Posted: 21 Dec 2018, 15:11
by Mexi-Box
1. Usyk
2. Canelo
3. Lomachenko
4. Crawford
5. Golovkin
6. Sor Rungvisai
7. Mikey
8. Inoue
9. Santa Cruz
10. Berchelt/Gvozdyk
Re: Current p4p 10
Posted: 21 Dec 2018, 15:17
by Mexi-Box
jamamb wrote: ↑21 Dec 2018, 12:51
1. crawford
2. loma
3. garcia
4. canelo
5. usyk
something like that for top 5, lot of debatable stuff though i do feel confident in craw at 1
I don't. His performance against a one-legged Benavidez is enough to push anyone down. Usyk should be consensus #1 at this point. He unified, arguably, the strongest division in boxing. He also beat 4 boxers that moved up to HW and either did well (Briedis, Huck, and Bellew) or are doing damn well like Hunter.
Re: Current p4p 10
Posted: 21 Dec 2018, 15:18
by Mexi-Box
boxing_rocks wrote: ↑21 Dec 2018, 13:04
Loma
Usyk
Spence
Crawford
Inoue
GGG
Garcia
Canelo
Wangek
Hurd
Hurd belongs nowhere on a p4p list. You also have Spence laughably high and GGG/Canelo criminally low.
Re: Current p4p 10
Posted: 21 Dec 2018, 15:33
by Onetimeonly
Crawford, Spence, Garcia, loma, Inoue, Canelo, usyk, GGG, wangek, shiro
Re: Current p4p 10
Posted: 22 Dec 2018, 00:58
by gilgamesh
1. Vasyl Lomachenko
2. Oleksandr Usyk
3. Terence Crawford
4. Saul Alvarez
5. Gennady Golovkin
6. Mikey Garcia
7. Srisaket Sor Rungvisai
8. Errol Spence Jr.
9. Naoya Inoue
10. Leo Santa Cruz
Re: Current p4p 10
Posted: 22 Dec 2018, 01:53
by boxing_rocks
Mexi-Box wrote: ↑21 Dec 2018, 15:18
boxing_rocks wrote: ↑21 Dec 2018, 13:04
Loma
Usyk
Spence
Crawford
Inoue
GGG
Garcia
Canelo
Wangek
Hurd
Hurd belongs nowhere on a p4p list. You also have Spence laughably high and GGG/Canelo criminally low.
Hurd beat Lara who beat Canelo.
Re: Current p4p 10
Posted: 22 Dec 2018, 11:54
by Wuuupa
gilgamesh wrote: ↑22 Dec 2018, 00:58
1. Vasyl Lomachenko
2. Oleksandr Usyk
3. Terence Crawford
4. Saul Alvarez
5. Gennady Golovkin
6. Mikey Garcia
7. Srisaket Sor Rungvisai
8. Errol Spence Jr.
9. Naoya Inoue
10. Leo Santa Cruz
Sad that inoue diesnt fight rungvisai, gonzales or estrada. He has all the tools to be p4p king but he or his managemant put him infront the best..
Re: Current p4p 10
Posted: 22 Dec 2018, 11:56
by gilgamesh
boxing_rocks wrote: ↑22 Dec 2018, 01:53
Mexi-Box wrote: ↑21 Dec 2018, 15:18
boxing_rocks wrote: ↑21 Dec 2018, 13:04
Loma
Usyk
Spence
Crawford
Inoue
GGG
Garcia
Canelo
Wangek
Hurd
Hurd belongs nowhere on a p4p list. You also have Spence laughably high and GGG/Canelo criminally low.
Hurd beat Lara who beat Canelo.
Lara didn't beat Canelo. I always thought Canelo won that fight quite clear personally.
Re: Current p4p 10
Posted: 22 Dec 2018, 17:15
by Onetimeonly
I had Lara edging it, very close. You also could have Lara beating Hurd so the point is I guess he should rate Lara!
Re: Current p4p 10
Posted: 22 Dec 2018, 17:37
by boxing_rocks
gilgamesh wrote: ↑22 Dec 2018, 11:56
boxing_rocks wrote: ↑22 Dec 2018, 01:53
Mexi-Box wrote: ↑21 Dec 2018, 15:18
Hurd belongs nowhere on a p4p list. You also have Spence laughably high and GGG/Canelo criminally low.
Hurd beat Lara who beat Canelo.
Lara didn't beat Canelo. I always thought Canelo won that fight quite clear personally.
Opinions were split 50/50, so Hurd did AT LEAST as well as Canelo in the fight against the most skillful JMW.
Re: Current p4p 10
Posted: 22 Dec 2018, 17:44
by gilgamesh
boxing_rocks wrote: ↑22 Dec 2018, 17:37
gilgamesh wrote: ↑22 Dec 2018, 11:56
boxing_rocks wrote: ↑22 Dec 2018, 01:53
Hurd beat Lara who beat Canelo.
Lara didn't beat Canelo. I always thought Canelo won that fight quite clear personally.
Opinions were split 50/50, so Hurd did AT LEAST as well as Canelo in the fight against the most skillful JMW.
He did way better. He beat him clear.
Re: Current p4p 10
Posted: 22 Dec 2018, 22:11
by Mexi-Box
boxing_rocks wrote: ↑22 Dec 2018, 01:53
Mexi-Box wrote: ↑21 Dec 2018, 15:18
boxing_rocks wrote: ↑21 Dec 2018, 13:04
Loma
Usyk
Spence
Crawford
Inoue
GGG
Garcia
Canelo
Wangek
Hurd
Hurd belongs nowhere on a p4p list. You also have Spence laughably high and GGG/Canelo criminally low.
Hurd beat Lara who beat Canelo.
Canelo/Lara was a very long time ago. Canelo improved exponentially. Not the same fighter even though I did have Lara beating Canelo. Also, the Lara win doesn't push Canelo's p4p chances up at all. Canelo is on the p4p list because of his fights with another p4p fighter in Golovkin. Lara isn't an impressive win in and of itself.