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Boxing Industry Poll: Anthony Joshua still the man
Posted: 28 Dec 2018, 17:16
by oogiebe
Really fun article comparing Joshua, Fury and Wilder, by an eclectic bunch of former fighters, trainers and media. THe results seem pretty reasonable and the comps are a good read.
http://www.sportingnews.com/ca/boxing/n ... djrt9oevva
Re: Boxing Industry Poll: Anthony Joshua still the man
Posted: 28 Dec 2018, 17:21
by jamamb
it wud seem strange to me if fury and wilder drawing somehow demoted aj, though i know some of the fury and wilder boys are broing up with 'the 2 best already fought' stuff. cute.
ajs the best hw, the biggest draw at hw, and has the best hw resume
Re: Boxing Industry Poll: Anthony Joshua still the man
Posted: 28 Dec 2018, 18:05
by Onetimeonly
Your last sentence is spot on.
Re: Boxing Industry Poll: Anthony Joshua still the man
Posted: 28 Dec 2018, 18:07
by oogiebe
You should give the article a go, it's really has some interesting and rational perspectives.
Re: Boxing Industry Poll: Anthony Joshua still the man
Posted: 28 Dec 2018, 20:30
by tiny_acres
Predictions are all fine and dandy. But until all 3 of them fight one another we will not have a true champion
Re: Boxing Industry Poll: Anthony Joshua still the man
Posted: 28 Dec 2018, 20:59
by oogiebe
tiny_acres wrote: ↑28 Dec 2018, 20:30
Predictions are all fine and dandy. But until all 3 of them fight one another we will not have a true champion
Obviously...but the article is quite interesting.
Re: Boxing Industry Poll: Anthony Joshua still the man
Posted: 28 Dec 2018, 21:08
by jamamb
but whats the bar for 'da man'? do they have to beat the other two?
i mean what if aj next for example destroys fury (who wilder couldnt beat) or wilder (who fury couldnt beat)? he already has the best resume and then he wouldve also beaten one of the 'big' boys who the other couldnt
or what if aj destroys fury but then wilder destroys aj. does wilder still need to beat fury to be the 'man' since he didnt manage it when they fought?
Re: Boxing Industry Poll: Anthony Joshua still the man
Posted: 28 Dec 2018, 21:15
by oogiebe
jamamb wrote: ↑28 Dec 2018, 21:08
but whats the bar for 'da man'? do they have to beat the other two?
i mean what if aj next for example destroys fury (who wilder couldnt beat) or wilder (who fury couldnt beat)? he already has the best resume and then he wouldve also beaten one of the 'big' boys who the other couldnt
He'd be the man. Period
or what if aj destroys fury but then wilder destroys aj. does wilder still need to beat fury to be the 'man' since he didnt manage it when they fought?
There would be unfinished business for Wilder to be the man. Styles make fights so Wilder would still need to beat Fury. I guess it could go round and round and round
The article goes through many scenarios and breaks down each possibility. Overall, AJ got the most wins and least losses. It's very interesting actually.
Re: Boxing Industry Poll: Anthony Joshua still the man
Posted: 28 Dec 2018, 21:53
by KiwiRider
I was surprised the boxers put Wilder first, and everyone else pretty much put him last.
I fully agree that if anyone can make adjustments, it's Fury and Joshua- I haven't seen any improvement in Wilder at all, or a game plan other than land the right and maybe a left hook to follow.
Good article Oogie
Re: Boxing Industry Poll: Anthony Joshua still the man
Posted: 28 Dec 2018, 22:39
by godosin
Very interesting view points on these three matches. I find it funny Lennox Lewis, George Foreman, Larry Holmes, and Evander holyfield rate Wilder first.
Re: Boxing Industry Poll: Anthony Joshua still the man
Posted: 29 Dec 2018, 01:24
by Mexi-Box
jamamb wrote: ↑28 Dec 2018, 17:21
it wud seem strange to me if fury and wilder drawing somehow demoted aj, though i know some of the fury and wilder boys are broing up with 'the 2 best already fought' stuff. cute.
ajs the best hw, the biggest draw at hw,
and has the best hw resume
He has the better depth, but Fury has the better single win. Klitschko was p4p #1-2 when he fought Fury. There is no argument that Fury fought and beat a better version. He also did it in a better fashion.
AJ was demoted because Fury was always the lineal HW champion.
Re: Boxing Industry Poll: Anthony Joshua still the man
Posted: 29 Dec 2018, 09:20
by ArtlessDodger
Thanks for posting that. An interesting article.
Obviously, we want to see them box. No amount of discussion will answer the debate. I'm of the opinion that AJ is favourite in both match-ups, but it's heavyweight boxing and anything could happen!