Bryant Jennings vs Oscar RIvas
Posted: 02 Jan 2019, 03:57
Should be entertaining HW bout. Always liked Jennings. Does not saw much of Rivas.
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Re: Bryant Jennings vs Oscar RIvas
Posted: 02 Jan 2019, 09:52
I favour Jennings in this one
Re: Bryant Jennings vs Oscar RIvas
Posted: 02 Jan 2019, 12:28
Jennings has to be a huge favorite in this fight
Re: Bryant Jennings vs Oscar RIvas
Posted: 02 Jan 2019, 12:38
Rivas can smack. Jennings better be on this best, movement wise.
Re: Bryant Jennings vs Oscar RIvas
Posted: 04 Jan 2019, 06:47
Dear God I hope it's vastly more entertaining than Rivas's recent(ish) fight against Herve Hubeaux. Of course it will be. It couldn't not be 
Actually it should be an interesting match between two heavyweights hampered more by lack of physicality rather than ability (and eye problems in Rivas's case of course). Rivas being short and Jennings lacking bulk.
Actually it should be an interesting match between two heavyweights hampered more by lack of physicality rather than ability (and eye problems in Rivas's case of course). Rivas being short and Jennings lacking bulk.
Re: Bryant Jennings vs Oscar RIvas
Posted: 04 Jan 2019, 15:16
Really? Rivas is an olympic-level boxer--he beat Pulev and lost to gold medalist Cammarelle. He hasn't really stepped up the competition which is a problem, while Jennings has faced very tough opponents in his career but lost to the only really great fighters he faced. His recent win over Dimitrenko only says so much.
Rivas is kind of a poor-man's Luis Ortiz, who was "unknown" until he was suddenly the next great contender. People were asleep on Ortiz and likewise this could be Rivas' breakthrough. He's a lot shorter than Ortiz, but a lot younger too.
I think the comparable fight is Jennings vs. Mike Perez, a split decision win for Jennings and that's about what I see happening here. That fight would have been a draw if not for a weird point deduction, and I think this one could be that close.
Re: Bryant Jennings vs Oscar RIvas
Posted: 04 Jan 2019, 15:19
Rivas' development was slowed by injuries, most notably with his eyes. He is a big puncher and sound boxer. I wouldn't count him out and Jennings is also stepping up here, let's not forget. His last fight was a ko over a physically old and inactive Dimitrenko.SportsRatings wrote: ↑04 Jan 2019, 15:16Really? Rivas is an olympic-level boxer--he beat Pulev and lost to gold medalist Cammarelle. He hasn't really stepped up the competition which is a problem, while Jennings has faced very tough opponents in his career but lost to the only really great fighters he faced. His recent win over Dimitrenko only says so much.
Rivas is kind of a poor-man's Luis Ortiz, who was "unknown" until he was suddenly the next great contender. People were asleep on Ortiz and likewise this could be Rivas' breakthrough. He's a lot shorter than Ortiz, but a lot younger too.
I think the comparable fight is Jennings vs. Mike Perez, a split decision win for Jennings and that's about what I see happening here. That fight would have been a draw if not for a weird point deduction, and I think this one could be that close.
Re: Bryant Jennings vs Oscar RIvas
Posted: 04 Jan 2019, 15:25
Interesting bout. I favor Jennings in this one as he's definitely tested at a higher level. This will give us an idea of whether or not Rivas is a legit contender or even fringe contender or not. If he's a threat to the guys at the top in any way he'll be able to get past Jennings. I suspect he won't though.
Re: Bryant Jennings vs Oscar RIvas
Posted: 04 Jan 2019, 15:26
It's amazing how many times I'm on the odd end of these threads lately.gilgamesh wrote: ↑04 Jan 2019, 15:25 Interesting bout. I favor Jennings in this one as he's definitely tested at a higher level. This will give us an idea of whether or not Rivas is a legit contender or even fringe contender or not. If he's a threat to the guys at the top in any way he'll be able to get past Jennings. I suspect he won't though.
Re: Bryant Jennings vs Oscar RIvas
Posted: 04 Jan 2019, 15:28
I mean Jennings is no world beater so it wouldn't be the most shocking thing in the world if he beat him, I just think Jennings is probably better.oogiebe wrote: ↑04 Jan 2019, 15:26It's amazing how many times I'm on the odd end of these threads lately.gilgamesh wrote: ↑04 Jan 2019, 15:25 Interesting bout. I favor Jennings in this one as he's definitely tested at a higher level. This will give us an idea of whether or not Rivas is a legit contender or even fringe contender or not. If he's a threat to the guys at the top in any way he'll be able to get past Jennings. I suspect he won't though.
Re: Bryant Jennings vs Oscar RIvas
Posted: 04 Jan 2019, 15:30
I'm not arguing. We know more about Jennings, but not much. HIs two losses were against top fighters and a bit long ago. (three years?). I've followed Rivas, and lately he's not knocking people out, but his opponents were surviving rather than fighting.gilgamesh wrote: ↑04 Jan 2019, 15:28I mean Jennings is no world beater so it wouldn't be the most shocking thing in the world if he beat him, I just think Jennings is probably better.oogiebe wrote: ↑04 Jan 2019, 15:26It's amazing how many times I'm on the odd end of these threads lately.gilgamesh wrote: ↑04 Jan 2019, 15:25 Interesting bout. I favor Jennings in this one as he's definitely tested at a higher level. This will give us an idea of whether or not Rivas is a legit contender or even fringe contender or not. If he's a threat to the guys at the top in any way he'll be able to get past Jennings. I suspect he won't though.
Re: Bryant Jennings vs Oscar RIvas
Posted: 05 Jan 2019, 05:07
Having been tested at that higher level is a significant advantage if you passed the test. I don't know if that holds true if you failed the test?gilgamesh wrote: ↑04 Jan 2019, 15:25 Interesting bout. I favor Jennings in this one as he's definitely tested at a higher level. This will give us an idea of whether or not Rivas is a legit contender or even fringe contender or not. If he's a threat to the guys at the top in any way he'll be able to get past Jennings. I suspect he won't though.
I guess failing both tests is experience whichever way you look at it and it was the very toughest of examinations. Maybe we have learned more about where Bryant stands in the hierarchy from his wins than from his defeats.
I think this is a tough one to call which is exactly how I like my match-ups as I'm sure we all do.
Re: Bryant Jennings vs Oscar RIvas
Posted: 05 Jan 2019, 05:14
I thought Jennings performed well in both losses. Failed is an extreme description, more like found his place. Should be more than Rivas can reach.
Re: Bryant Jennings vs Oscar RIvas
Posted: 05 Jan 2019, 06:37
I'm not intending any disrespect to Jennings but the test is basically win or lose. Losing is failure however you want to dress it up.
Maybe that sounds harsh but I already acknowledged that both were the very toughest of examinations and he performed to the best of his ability. There is no disgrace in coming up short against Klitschko or Ortiz.
Maybe that sounds harsh but I already acknowledged that both were the very toughest of examinations and he performed to the best of his ability. There is no disgrace in coming up short against Klitschko or Ortiz.
Re: Bryant Jennings vs Oscar RIvas
Posted: 05 Jan 2019, 07:51
Not harsh, silly.
Re: Bryant Jennings vs Oscar RIvas
Posted: 05 Jan 2019, 09:51
Silly to regard winning as success and losing as failure? If you say so.
Re: Bryant Jennings vs Oscar RIvas
Posted: 05 Jan 2019, 12:20
Jennings is one of my fave hw's.
im sure theres bigger and better stuff to come from him.
Rivas has been protected for a long time. He's short and stocky, shouldn't be able to reach Jennings too much.
points win.
a ko for either would be impressive
im sure theres bigger and better stuff to come from him.
Rivas has been protected for a long time. He's short and stocky, shouldn't be able to reach Jennings too much.
points win.
a ko for either would be impressive
Re: Bryant Jennings vs Oscar RIvas
Posted: 05 Jan 2019, 12:46
I'm actually looking forward to this fight, as we'll know what each fighter is really about. Jennings has the skills, but Rivas can really hit. Head says Jennings; heart says Rivas. We'll find out soon enough!funso banjo baby wrote: ↑05 Jan 2019, 12:20 Jennings is one of my fave hw's.
im sure theres bigger and better stuff to come from him.
Rivas has been protected for a long time. He's short and stocky, shouldn't be able to reach Jennings too much.
points win.
a ko for either would be impressive
Re: Bryant Jennings vs Oscar RIvas
Posted: 05 Jan 2019, 13:00
I pick Jennings by a clear ud.funso banjo baby wrote: ↑05 Jan 2019, 12:20 Jennings is one of my fave hw's.
im sure theres bigger and better stuff to come from him.
Rivas has been protected for a long time. He's short and stocky, shouldn't be able to reach Jennings too much.
points win.
a ko for either would be impressive
Jennings is just not a knock out fighter. He lacks power but has speed and skill
Re: Bryant Jennings vs Oscar RIvas
Posted: 05 Jan 2019, 16:49
Re: Bryant Jennings vs Oscar RIvas
Posted: 06 Jan 2019, 05:08
I can't promise 
Re: Bryant Jennings vs Oscar RIvas
Posted: 08 Jan 2019, 00:49
I also favor Jennings by decision. If he wins this, it is not a substantial improvement over his existing wins; but it's improvement enough that he should be considered moderately deserving of a title shot. Not ahead of Pulev, Miller, or Whyte; but otherwise he should be maybe 4th or 5th in line. I wish Rivas had done more as a professional before fighting Jennings -- like beating someone with an approximately #55 rank.