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Anthony Joshua: Hearn gives fresh update on Deontay Wilder negotiations, makes shock claim

Posted: 04 Jan 2019, 11:23
by Enlightened-One
"Anthony Joshua: Hearn gives fresh update on Deontay Wilder negotiations, makes shock claim"

DEONTAY WILDER’s team have gone silent over a fight with Anthony Joshua, Matchroom Sports chief Barry Hearn has claimed.

A multi-million-pound unification fight between the pair was in the works last year, though the fighter’s respective teams couldn’t come to terms before the WBA ordered Joshua to defend his title against Alexander Povetkin.

Joshua is still keen to unify the division and has stated his desire to do so on numerous occasions since Wilder’s controversial draw with Tyson last month.

Wilder, however, has his sights set on a rematch with ‘The Gypsy King’, who was seconds away from becoming the American’s 40th victory.

But according to Hearn, ‘The Bronze Bomber’s’ management haven’t returned any their telephone calls or emails.

“We would desperately love to fight Deontay Wilder in Wembley on April 13th,” Hearn said during an appearance on Love Sport Radio.

“We have offered him successively more and more. Not just guaranteed money, but percentage money.

“It will generate many times more than he has ever earned in his life. But there’s a certain level beyond which we won’t go because AJ is the A-side.

“Unfortunately to report that so far despite three, four emails, dozens of phone calls. We haven’t had one response from Deontay Wilder’s team.”

Hearn believes the undefeated Wilder isn’t as serious about unifying the heavyweight division as he’s made out over the last year.

“So sooner or later you take the hint that maybe they don’t want us that bad,” he added.

“But then they’re also, I guess, planning a Tyson Fury rematch.”


Thoughts? :-?

Re: Anthony Joshua: Hearn gives fresh update on Deontay Wilder negotiations, makes shock claim

Posted: 04 Jan 2019, 12:28
by oogiebe
Hearn=Promoter=bullshvt artist. :TU:

Re: Anthony Joshua: Hearn gives fresh update on Deontay Wilder negotiations, makes shock claim

Posted: 05 Jan 2019, 08:05
by Ruthless-RKO
Frank W. has already stated he’s in communication with Shelly F. discussing the rematch.

Re: Anthony Joshua: Hearn gives fresh update on Deontay Wilder negotiations, makes shock claim

Posted: 05 Jan 2019, 08:44
by marvelous marv
Finkel said they wouldn't entertain offers that didnt meet a certain minimum requirement. Making many lowball offers is just saving face.

Re: Anthony Joshua: Hearn gives fresh update on Deontay Wilder negotiations, makes shock claim

Posted: 05 Jan 2019, 17:39
by oogiebe
marvelous marv wrote: 05 Jan 2019, 08:44 Finkel said they wouldn't entertain offers that didnt meet a certain minimum requirement. Making many lowball offers is just saving face.
Truly. :TU:

Re: Anthony Joshua: Hearn gives fresh update on Deontay Wilder negotiations, makes shock claim

Posted: 05 Jan 2019, 18:08
by greg
...all these never-ending negotiations is just an attempt to marinate the fight imo..it surely is clear who's side A..surely there've been precedents over the years when one of the boxers had 4 belts vs 1 belt...come on ladies, get back to the negotiating table and make it happen..

Re: Anthony Joshua: Hearn gives fresh update on Deontay Wilder negotiations, makes shock claim

Posted: 05 Jan 2019, 21:29
by oogiebe
greg wrote: 05 Jan 2019, 18:08 ...all these never-ending negotiations is just an attempt to marinate the fight imo..it surely is clear who's side A..surely there've been precedents over the years when one of the boxers had 4 belts vs 1 belt...come on ladies, get back to the negotiating table and make it happen..
:TU:

Re: Anthony Joshua: Hearn gives fresh update on Deontay Wilder negotiations, makes shock claim

Posted: 06 Jan 2019, 01:09
by Evander
It's more about the summer fight, AJ will fight his gimme in April or whenever it is.
May, June, July, August open.
At this point I'd say they will throw Tyson Fury a whole bunch of money
Wilder is bigger down the road.

Re: Anthony Joshua: Hearn gives fresh update on Deontay Wilder negotiations, makes shock claim

Posted: 06 Jan 2019, 03:28
by candyslim
Now is the perfect time before one of them loses. Joshua has at times looked vulnerable and Wilder has been fortunate to survive his last two encounters. I say fortunate but fair dos he has shown resilience and the heart of a true champion, but his crown is looking a little precarious nonetheless.

How much does he think he'll get from Joshua if he loses his belt?

Re: Anthony Joshua: Hearn gives fresh update on Deontay Wilder negotiations, makes shock claim

Posted: 06 Jan 2019, 07:43
by bigjack
Enlightened-One wrote: 04 Jan 2019, 11:23 "Anthony Joshua: Hearn gives fresh update on Deontay Wilder negotiations, makes shock claim"

DEONTAY WILDER’s team have gone silent over a fight with Anthony Joshua, Matchroom Sports chief Barry Hearn has claimed.

A multi-million-pound unification fight between the pair was in the works last year, though the fighter’s respective teams couldn’t come to terms before the WBA ordered Joshua to defend his title against Alexander Povetkin.

Joshua is still keen to unify the division and has stated his desire to do so on numerous occasions since Wilder’s controversial draw with Tyson last month.

Wilder, however, has his sights set on a rematch with ‘The Gypsy King’, who was seconds away from becoming the American’s 40th victory.

But according to Hearn, ‘The Bronze Bomber’s’ management haven’t returned any their telephone calls or emails.

“We would desperately love to fight Deontay Wilder in Wembley on April 13th,” Hearn said during an appearance on Love Sport Radio.

“We have offered him successively more and more. Not just guaranteed money, but percentage money.

“It will generate many times more than he has ever earned in his life. But there’s a certain level beyond which we won’t go because AJ is the A-side.

“Unfortunately to report that so far despite three, four emails, dozens of phone calls. We haven’t had one response from Deontay Wilder’s team.”

Hearn believes the undefeated Wilder isn’t as serious about unifying the heavyweight division as he’s made out over the last year.

“So sooner or later you take the hint that maybe they don’t want us that bad,” he added.

“But then they’re also, I guess, planning a Tyson Fury rematch.”


Thoughts? :-?
I hate it when Joshua is described as the 'A side', joshua so desperately wants to become undisputed champion,clearly not desperate enough to give Wilder 50%,greedy bastards :shame:

Re: Anthony Joshua: Hearn gives fresh update on Deontay Wilder negotiations, makes shock claim

Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 09:48
by candyslim
Imagine you join the sales team of your new employer. Your colleagues have been there about 5 years. They don't put themselves out. They pick up their base pay. The company is ticking over quite nicely. There's no drama.

Then you show up. Look at the basic pay scale, say "f... this", so you work late, you make calls, go and see prospective new clients. Generally make things happen.

The company are delighted. They know you are single-handedly responsible for increasing company profits by US$ 50m since you started. The CEO announces as a direct result of a bumper increase in sales, the five man sales team are going to get a fifth each of a US$ 100,000 bonus.

"What do you mean it shouldn't be an equal split?" say your co-workers "You greedy bastard".

Re: Anthony Joshua: Hearn gives fresh update on Deontay Wilder negotiations, makes shock claim

Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 11:34
by oogiebe
candyslim wrote: 07 Jan 2019, 09:48 Imagine you join the sales team of your new employer. Your colleagues have been there about 5 years. They don't put themselves out. They pick up their base pay. The company is ticking over quite nicely. There's no drama.

Then you show up. Look at the basic pay scale, say "f... this", so you work late, you make calls, go and see prospective new clients. Generally make things happen.

The company are delighted. They know you are single-handedly responsible for increasing company profits by US$ 50m since you started. The CEO announces as a direct result of a bumper increase in sales, the five man sales team are going to get a fifth each of a US$ 100,000 bonus.

"What do you mean it shouldn't be an equal split?" say your co-workers "You greedy bastard".
60-40 is the fairest. Nice illustration, Candy.

Re: Anthony Joshua: Hearn gives fresh update on Deontay Wilder negotiations, makes shock claim

Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 14:45
by candyslim
Thank you Oogie. I have often said 60/40 would be fair. It's not a reflection of who brings what to the table but 75/25 for a unification fight just isn't realistic.

Re: Anthony Joshua: Hearn gives fresh update on Deontay Wilder negotiations, makes shock claim

Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 14:47
by oogiebe
candyslim wrote: 07 Jan 2019, 14:45 Thank you Oogie. I have often said 60/40 would be fair. It's not a reflection of who brings what to the table but 75/25 for a unification fight just isn't realistic.
Wilder brings some extra dough to the table, but surely AJ is the draw right now.

Re: Anthony Joshua: Hearn gives fresh update on Deontay Wilder negotiations, makes shock claim

Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 15:46
by candyslim
Let's hope we don't have too much longer to wait, but if Wilder gets beaten by Fury he will have to wait for the Joshua v Fury unification and he will almost certainly have to accept a flat offer and jump on a plane no matter which of the Brits wins.

Re: Anthony Joshua: Hearn gives fresh update on Deontay Wilder negotiations, makes shock claim

Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 15:48
by oogiebe
candyslim wrote: 07 Jan 2019, 15:46 Let's hope we don't have too much longer to wait, but if Wilder gets beaten by Fury he will have to wait for the Joshua v Fury unification and he will almost certainly have to accept a flat offer and jump on a plane no matter which of the Brits wins.
Yes.

Re: Anthony Joshua: Hearn gives fresh update on Deontay Wilder negotiations, makes shock claim

Posted: 17 Jan 2019, 05:29
by Enlightened-One

Re: Anthony Joshua: Hearn gives fresh update on Deontay Wilder negotiations, makes shock claim

Posted: 17 Jan 2019, 06:35
by the_doctor
Always have to look beyond the numbers (e.g. is part of the deal that Dazn get the US TV rights etc) but that is an excellent offer on paper.

Re: Anthony Joshua: Hearn gives fresh update on Deontay Wilder negotiations, makes shock claim

Posted: 17 Jan 2019, 07:49
by Deleted_Scenes
oogiebe wrote: 05 Jan 2019, 17:39
marvelous marv wrote: 05 Jan 2019, 08:44 Finkel said they wouldn't entertain offers that didnt meet a certain minimum requirement. Making many lowball offers is just saving face.
Truly. :TU:
While I agree, you'd think they'd at least reply stating what they actually would accept. Or arrange a meeting so that terms could be discussed. The fight would be huge, which makes the silent treatment baffling.

If Finkel's 'minimum requirement' is 50/50, the fight I never happening - unless Wilder can suddenly start earning $20mil purses off his own back anyway.

For me, 60/40 is fair. If Hearn isn't willing to offer that split, he's ducking. If Finkel refuses to accept it, he's the one ducking. Simple.

Re: Anthony Joshua: Hearn gives fresh update on Deontay Wilder negotiations, makes shock claim

Posted: 17 Jan 2019, 08:32
by The Asleep Lamps
They may have been reluctant to respond because they were involved with negotiations for a rematch with Fury. Some people criticized Wilder after that bout that he may avoid an immediate rematch and Wilder rejected the notion that he would shy from a rematch. Nobody was paying any attention to Hearn and Joshua at that point. But the Wilder Fury rematch was to take place in the U.S. apparently against Fury's hopes of fighting in the U.K.
Neither Wilder nor Fury should turn down 60/40 to fight for Joshua's belts. I personally want for Joshua to face either man in April more than I want to see the Wilder vs Fury rematch. :box:

Re: Anthony Joshua: Hearn gives fresh update on Deontay Wilder negotiations, makes shock claim

Posted: 17 Jan 2019, 08:36
by Enlightened-One
"Eddie Hearn reveals full details of latest offers to Deontay Wilder and Tyson Fury for Anthony Joshua fight"

The promoter has spoken in depth about his attempts to make the undisputed heavyweight title bout

Eddie Hearn has publicly revealed the details of his offer to Deontay Wilder for the Anthony Joshua fight on April 13 at Wembley.

The unified heavyweight champion’s promoter had previously stated he would keep such negotiations confidential, however he claims to have had no recent response from the American’s camp and so explained the numbers.

After talks for a flat fee deal collapsed last summer, the teams have now been negotiating a percentage split agreement, however a disparity in desired numbers has been one factor keeping the bout from happening.

Hearn told reporters in New York: “On any planet you live on – whether it’s Earth or Mars – Deontay Wilder cannot get 50/50 for an Anthony Joshua fight.

“You have to respect him. But we have to talk about levels, we have to talk about earnings, we have to talk about what people are bringing to the table. Deontay Wilder brings an awful lot to the table.

“60/40 – Are you really telling me that’s not a fair split in that fight?”

“We offered him 65/35, with a $15million guarantee. It was a guaranteed two-way fight.

“If Wilder lost we’d still do fight two in America, if Wilder won, we’d still do fight two in America.

“If Wilder lost in the first fight, he would get 70/30 in the second fight, so he’d get another crack with just five per cent less. If he won, it’d be 50/50. That was the offer.

“Now we’re increasing that offer. We’ll go to 60/40, no problem.”

The $15million guarantee acts as a safety net to ensure Deontay Wilder would make at least $15million from the fight, though with the 40% percentage split he would undoubtedly make more regardless.

The WBC heavyweight champion has instead been discussing a rematch with Tyson Fury – that has now been ordered by the WBC – following their draw on December 1.

Fury meanwhile has been in contact with Eddie Hearn, weighing up his options and considering taking the Anthony Joshua fight on April 13 himself.

allegedly confirmed an offer had been made to Fury last weekend, however declared that it was “derisory” and not a 60/40 split.

Hearn responded to this by saying: “The reason I didn’t offer him 60/40 is because I had a conversation with Tyson Fury who said, ‘I do not want a percentage split, make me a financial offer.’

“The financial offer was on the estimated budget at 60/40.

“For the record, if Tyson Fury wants 60/40, he’s got it. If he wants 50/50 that fight is not gonna happen right now.

“If he beats Deontay Wilder in the rematch, there’s a very good chance that he will get that fight 50/50.

“There’ll be no improved offers from 60/40 for Wilder and Fury.”

When asked whether Deontay Wilder would get a 50/50 offer if he knocked out Tyson Fury in their potential rematch, the promoter replied: “Quite possibly, yeah, depending on how the numbers do.”

To clarify, Eddie Hearn claims that as the situation currently stands, both Deontay Wilder and Tyson Fury can accept 60/40 offers to fight Anthony Joshua on April 13 at Wembley Stadium.

However, should they choose to rematch instead, then the winner will be in line for a 50/50 fight with AJ later this year.

Re: Anthony Joshua: Hearn gives fresh update on Deontay Wilder negotiations, makes shock claim

Posted: 17 Jan 2019, 08:57
by Nondescript
Enlightened-One wrote: 17 Jan 2019, 05:29
60/40 is a good offer, can't argue with that.

Re: Anthony Joshua: Hearn gives fresh update on Deontay Wilder negotiations, makes shock claim

Posted: 17 Jan 2019, 10:45
by oogiebe
60/40 with rematch clause is a good deal, yes.