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IBF/IBO/WBA 154-pound champion Jarrett Hurd said he "turned down" an offer from Matchroom Boxing promoter Eddie Hearn of England to join DAZN’s streaming service, calling it “a no-brainer” because his advisor “Al [Haymon] was already doing better.”

Hurd made his comments during a recent interview with Tha Boxing Voice hosted by Nestor Gibbs, and is aligned with Haymon Boxing’s Premier Boxing Champions, which has three- and four-year deals with the Showtime and Fox networks.

Hurd did not specify the timing of Hearn's approach, but the 28-year-old Accokeek, Maryland, resident has expressed interest in fighting former 147-pound champion, Kell Brook, of England, who is aligned with Hearn.

Among his considerations for his next defense, Hurd listed Brook, title challenger Julian Williams, or the winner of a rematch between Jermell Charlo and Tony Harrison, the latter of whom dethroned Charlo as WBC champion by unanimous decision last month.

“Of course we’ll go over to the UK. I’m trying to not just be an international fighter. I’m trying to be an all over the world fighter. We would definitely love to fight in the UK,” said Hurd.

“I know how the fight would play out with [Brook.] We can’t leave it up to the judges because we’re going over there to his home town, so if we’re definitely going over to the UK, I’m definitely going for the knockout.”

After saying that Hean's offer did not specifically address a Book fight, Hurd engaged in a short sequence that went as follows:

Host Michael Gross: Has [Eddie Hearn] approached you with a joining Matchroom USA and possibly DAZN offer?

Hurd: “Oh yeah, he offered that to me, but I’m happy over here with Al Haymon, and I turned down the offer.”

Gibbs: It obviously wasn’t good enough, but, like, how good was it?

Hurd: Well, put it like this: Whatever they offered me, Al was already doing better, so it was a no-brainer.

“These guys run these offers down for a reason. Al takes care of his fighters over here on this side and he’s dong such a great job with us, man, why leave?,” said Hurd. “Now he’s just got the big network on prime time TV with FOX, and you can’t get no better than that. It’s almost as good as being on ESPN.”

Fighters absolutely genuinely seem to love Al, Degale was sing his praises the other day

fighters do talk like als a promoter

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑04 Jan 2019, 13:06 I’m trying to not just be an international fighter. I’m trying to be an all over the world fighter.

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑04 Jan 2019, 13:25

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑04 Jan 2019, 13:06 I’m trying to not just be an international fighter. I’m trying to be an all over the world fighter.

And I thought he seemed a bright fella

rd350lc wrote: ↑04 Jan 2019, 13:34

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑04 Jan 2019, 13:25

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑04 Jan 2019, 13:06 I’m trying to not just be an international fighter. I’m trying to be an all over the world fighter.

And I thought he seemed a bright fella

Still lives with his folks. Haha.

We obviously know what he meant.

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑04 Jan 2019, 13:10 Fighters absolutely genuinely seem to love Al, Degale was sing his praises the other day

The fighters love him and most members here think he's Satan.
I don't understand the hatred

Al gets a lot of praise from fighters must be doing something right. The money man

Oiky wrote: ↑05 Jan 2019, 18:15 Al gets a lot of praise from fighters must be doing something right. The money man

Literally. All PBC love him. Said they won’t leave him.

It’s the rest of the boxing public that don’t like him for some reason.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑05 Jan 2019, 18:29

Oiky wrote: ↑05 Jan 2019, 18:15 Al gets a lot of praise from fighters must be doing something right. The money man

Literally. All PBC love him. Said they won’t leave him.

It’s the rest of the boxing public that don’t like him for some reason.

I've never had a problem with Al Hayman. Not as much as other promoters for sure. Also, after Don King, the rest don't seem so bad! LOL!

I can't help but wonder if maybe Eddie has provoked a sleeping lion and big Al thinks "right you little shit I'll show you...."

Steveh583 wrote: ↑05 Jan 2019, 18:42 I can't help but wonder if maybe Eddie has provoked a sleeping lion and big Al thinks "right you little poo I'll show you...."

Hmmmmm...maybe...interesting take on it.

oogiebe wrote: ↑05 Jan 2019, 18:43

Steveh583 wrote: ↑05 Jan 2019, 18:42 I can't help but wonder if maybe Eddie has provoked a sleeping lion and big Al thinks "right you little poo I'll show you...."

Hmmmmm...maybe...interesting take on it.

Why else would he come to the UK. Eddie’s gone over to the States full time.. he thought he’s make the most of the UK. Most fights we gonna get late night, but they’ll be free.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑05 Jan 2019, 19:40

oogiebe wrote: ↑05 Jan 2019, 18:43

Steveh583 wrote: ↑05 Jan 2019, 18:42 I can't help but wonder if maybe Eddie has provoked a sleeping lion and big Al thinks "right you little poo I'll show you...."

Hmmmmm...maybe...interesting take on it.

Why else would he come to the UK. Eddie’s gone over to the States full time.. he thought he’s make the most of the UK. Most fights we gonna get late night, but they’ll be free.

He needs bringing down a peg or two

From the outside looking in, despite having a huge fund to sign fighters for DAZN, Hearn is really having a difficult time signing US fighters of note. Both Haymon and Arum have the majority snapped up.

It seems like Eddie is realising that he may have bitten off more than he can chew. Luckily for him, it's not his money.

I don’t think Eddie will make it through the 2 years of his contract. DAZN are already refusing to buy his Uk fights like Whyte - Chisora, he cant sign any big fighters (if he fails to get GGG despite having Canelo, Andrade and Jacobs on DAZN that will be a crushing blow IMO) golden boy now on the platform etc. The writing is on the wall in big bright letters as far as I can see.

Manchester Hitman wrote: ↑06 Jan 2019, 05:01 I don’t think Eddie will make it through the 2 years of his contract. DAZN are already refusing to buy his Uk fights like Whyte - Chisora, he cant sign any big fighters (if he fails to get GGG despite having Canelo, Andrade and Jacobs on DAZN that will be a crushing blow IMO) golden boy now on the platform etc. The writing is on the wall in big bright letters as far as I can see.

I think HBO pulling out of boxing could be a game changer for DAZN in the USA. Suddenly one of the lead promoters in the country was unexpectedly looking for a new home and they are scooped them up which gave them the benefit of the biggest draw in world boxing.

If this had all happened a year earlier, I do not think they would have given Hearn the deal.

tobyh5 wrote: ↑06 Jan 2019, 05:07

Manchester Hitman wrote: ↑06 Jan 2019, 05:01 I don’t think Eddie will make it through the 2 years of his contract. DAZN are already refusing to buy his Uk fights like Whyte - Chisora, he cant sign any big fighters (if he fails to get GGG despite having Canelo, Andrade and Jacobs on DAZN that will be a crushing blow IMO) golden boy now on the platform etc. The writing is on the wall in big bright letters as far as I can see.

I think HBO pulling out of boxing could be a game changer for DAZN in the USA. Suddenly one of the lead promoters in the country was unexpectedly looking for a new home and they are scooped them up which gave them the benefit of the biggest draw in world boxing.

If this had all happened a year earlier, I do not think they would have given Hearn the deal.

Despite having managed to get Canelo though- how many subscribers will they need just to sustain his contract alone?!

Manchester Hitman wrote: ↑06 Jan 2019, 05:01 I don’t think Eddie will make it through the 2 years of his contract. DAZN are already refusing to buy his Uk fights like Whyte - Chisora, he cant sign any big fighters (if he fails to get GGG despite having Canelo, Andrade and Jacobs on DAZN that will be a crushing blow IMO) golden boy now on the platform etc. The writing is on the wall in big bright letters as far as I can see.

Who said DAZN didn’t want it?

Showtime clearly bid to show the fight.

Nondescript wrote: ↑06 Jan 2019, 05:35

tobyh5 wrote: ↑06 Jan 2019, 05:07

Manchester Hitman wrote: ↑06 Jan 2019, 05:01 I don’t think Eddie will make it through the 2 years of his contract. DAZN are already refusing to buy his Uk fights like Whyte - Chisora, he cant sign any big fighters (if he fails to get GGG despite having Canelo, Andrade and Jacobs on DAZN that will be a crushing blow IMO) golden boy now on the platform etc. The writing is on the wall in big bright letters as far as I can see.

I think HBO pulling out of boxing could be a game changer for DAZN in the USA. Suddenly one of the lead promoters in the country was unexpectedly looking for a new home and they are scooped them up which gave them the benefit of the biggest draw in world boxing.

If this had all happened a year earlier, I do not think they would have given Hearn the deal.

Despite having managed to get Canelo though- how many subscribers will they need just to sustain his contract alone?!

I view that as a loss leader kind of one-off investment. I think it would be physically impossible to get their money back on that deal.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑06 Jan 2019, 08:24

Manchester Hitman wrote: ↑06 Jan 2019, 05:01 I don’t think Eddie will make it through the 2 years of his contract. DAZN are already refusing to buy his Uk fights like Whyte - Chisora, he cant sign any big fighters (if he fails to get GGG despite having Canelo, Andrade and Jacobs on DAZN that will be a crushing blow IMO) golden boy now on the platform etc. The writing is on the wall in big bright letters as far as I can see.

Who said DAZN didn’t want it?

Showtime clearly bid to show the fight.

Come on pal. Eddie wouldn’t want it on any other platform other then DAZN if he had a choice seeing as he’s already struggling to give them any decent content as it is. Having you seen their schedule? It’s pathetic.

DAZN passed up the opportunity to show the fight, so Eddie had to go capnin hand to showtime. Eddie pretty much admitted that himself In an IFL or BS interview.

Nondescript wrote: ↑06 Jan 2019, 05:35

tobyh5 wrote: ↑06 Jan 2019, 05:07

Manchester Hitman wrote: ↑06 Jan 2019, 05:01 I don’t think Eddie will make it through the 2 years of his contract. DAZN are already refusing to buy his Uk fights like Whyte - Chisora, he cant sign any big fighters (if he fails to get GGG despite having Canelo, Andrade and Jacobs on DAZN that will be a crushing blow IMO) golden boy now on the platform etc. The writing is on the wall in big bright letters as far as I can see.

I think HBO pulling out of boxing could be a game changer for DAZN in the USA. Suddenly one of the lead promoters in the country was unexpectedly looking for a new home and they are scooped them up which gave them the benefit of the biggest draw in world boxing.

If this had all happened a year earlier, I do not think they would have given Hearn the deal.

Despite having managed to get Canelo though- how many subscribers will they need just to sustain his contract alone?!

I did work it out and think it was something like 580,000 subscribers just to pay Canelo. Something like $70mill per year which equals $5.8mill per calendar month, at $10 per subscriber, that's the 580,000. Throw Eduardo's $1billion over 8 years and you need 1.5mill subscribers to break even on fighter purse cost of just Canelo and Matchroom. Add on top production, marketing etc (and other sport deals) and I wonder how or when they will hope to turn a profit

Different product, but same model is Netflix with 58million subscribers in the USA.

A fairer comparision is ESPN Plus which has somewhere between 1 and 1.5 million subscribers

tobyh5 wrote: ↑06 Jan 2019, 12:05

Nondescript wrote: ↑06 Jan 2019, 05:35

tobyh5 wrote: ↑06 Jan 2019, 05:07

I think HBO pulling out of boxing could be a game changer for DAZN in the USA. Suddenly one of the lead promoters in the country was unexpectedly looking for a new home and they are scooped them up which gave them the benefit of the biggest draw in world boxing.

If this had all happened a year earlier, I do not think they would have given Hearn the deal.

Despite having managed to get Canelo though- how many subscribers will they need just to sustain his contract alone?!

I did work it out and think it was something like 580,000 subscribers just to pay Canelo. Something like $70mill per year which equals $5.8mill per calendar month, at $10 per subscriber, that's the 580,000. Throw Eduardo's $1billion over 8 years and you need 1.5mill subscribers to break even on fighter purse cost of just Canelo and Matchroom. Add on top production, marketing etc (and other sport deals) and I wonder how or when they will hope to turn a profit

Different product, but same model is Netflix with 58million subscribers in the USA.

A fairer comparision is ESPN Plus which has somewhere between 1 and 1.5 million subscribers

And who’s to say people that are only interested in Canelo won’t just unsubscribe for the months where Canelo isn’t fighting and just subscribe the month he is fighting. That would be a loss.. but us humans can be lazy.. who can be bothered with that hassle..

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑06 Jan 2019, 12:19

tobyh5 wrote: ↑06 Jan 2019, 12:05

Nondescript wrote: ↑06 Jan 2019, 05:35
Despite having managed to get Canelo though- how many subscribers will they need just to sustain his contract alone?!

I did work it out and think it was something like 580,000 subscribers just to pay Canelo. Something like $70mill per year which equals $5.8mill per calendar month, at $10 per subscriber, that's the 580,000. Throw Eduardo's $1billion over 8 years and you need 1.5mill subscribers to break even on fighter purse cost of just Canelo and Matchroom. Add on top production, marketing etc (and other sport deals) and I wonder how or when they will hope to turn a profit

Different product, but same model is Netflix with 58million subscribers in the USA.

A fairer comparision is ESPN Plus which has somewhere between 1 and 1.5 million subscribers

And who’s to say people that are only interested in Canelo won’t just unsubscribe for the months where Canelo isn’t fighting and just subscribe the month he is fighting. That would be a loss.. but us humans can be lazy.. who can be bothered with that hassle..

The people who are subbing for Canelo will also want to see Munguia's fights too. So it could be 6 different month's to sub then unsub, I'd say its very likely most will just leave it to run all year round.

digzee wrote: ↑06 Jan 2019, 12:49

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑06 Jan 2019, 12:19

tobyh5 wrote: ↑06 Jan 2019, 12:05

I did work it out and think it was something like 580,000 subscribers just to pay Canelo. Something like $70mill per year which equals $5.8mill per calendar month, at $10 per subscriber, that's the 580,000. Throw Eduardo's $1billion over 8 years and you need 1.5mill subscribers to break even on fighter purse cost of just Canelo and Matchroom. Add on top production, marketing etc (and other sport deals) and I wonder how or when they will hope to turn a profit

Different product, but same model is Netflix with 58million subscribers in the USA.

A fairer comparision is ESPN Plus which has somewhere between 1 and 1.5 million subscribers

And who’s to say people that are only interested in Canelo won’t just unsubscribe for the months where Canelo isn’t fighting and just subscribe the month he is fighting. That would be a loss.. but us humans can be lazy.. who can be bothered with that hassle..

The people who are subbing for Canelo will also want to see Munguia's fights too. So it could be 6 different month's to sub then unsub, I'd say its very likely most will just leave it to run all year round.

AT $9.99/month...it's boxing! It's not only the big names that make great fights. How many great surprises have we seen from seemingly 'uninteresting' undercard bouts.