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NateJR wrote: ↑14 Jan 2019, 17:53 As far as Canelo being hated, it's actually good for business. Even those who dislike Canelo will more than likely tune into his fights whether he was to win lose or draw in any of his fights. Some may dislike him based on the fight outcomes because they don't feel he won, but it won't change the fact they'll still watch his fights, whether they want to see a great fighter in action or they tune in with the hopes of seeing him lose. Not one outcome so far in Canelos career will or has had a negative effect on his career.

oogiebe wrote: ↑14 Jan 2019, 17:55

NateJR wrote: ↑14 Jan 2019, 17:53 As far as Canelo being hated, it's actually good for business. Even those who dislike Canelo will more than likely tune into his fights whether he was to win lose or draw in any of his fights. Some may dislike him based on the fight outcomes because they don't feel he won, but it won't change the fact they'll still watch his fights, whether they want to see a great fighter in action or they tune in with the hopes of seeing him lose. Not one outcome so far in Canelos career will or has had a negative effect on his career.

Good points. But to another poster's point, he also could've been a fan favorite, as he possesses all those attributes we actually love in a boxing great. It's all very interesting, but when it's all said and done, he'll have a great career and make oodles of money.

Onekrazyrican wrote: ↑14 Jan 2019, 17:21 Im thinking that getting the W actually hurt Canelo. He did awesome in that second fight. Fought GGG toe to toe and was on even terms throught the whole fight. They gave him the W and it just made people hate his guts. Had he came up short I think people would be praising him.

A similar thing happened with Bradley-Pac. Imagine Bradley losing that fight then we find he fought with injuries in both ankles. That W against Pac ruined the rest of his career when he could have been praised for fighting a decent fight while injured.

I really hope DLH or another promoter with power starts eliminating the ridiculous idea casual fans have that you cant be great if youre not undefeated. Its killing the sport, forcing promoters to create that illusion.

Canelo would be perfect for that. Hes an exiting young fighter. Even if he had official losses to G and Lara hes proven good enough to be in the conversation of about whos the top middleweight today. Let the guy take the L then get him back in line. Have his next DAZN fights showcase his road back to the title picture. People will watch for sure. They might even root for him...

caldo2025 wrote: ↑14 Jan 2019, 20:56 Everyone blew Canelo because he came forward instead of running the whole night but who cares? Good for Canelo for taking the skirt off in the second fight but he still lost the fight. It’s my true belief that Canelo was given way too much for not retreating in this fight.

Canelo did great work to the body but to me, GGG clearly won the second half of the fight and won enough of the early rounds to easily get the win. If martians came down to score this fight and left right after, there’s not one of them that would award Canelo the second fight. Not even close

gilgamesh wrote: ↑14 Jan 2019, 20:59

caldo2025 wrote: ↑14 Jan 2019, 20:56 Everyone blew Canelo because he came forward instead of running the whole night but who cares? Good for Canelo for taking the skirt off in the second fight but he still lost the fight. It’s my true belief that Canelo was given way too much for not retreating in this fight.

Canelo did great work to the body but to me, GGG clearly won the second half of the fight and won enough of the early rounds to easily get the win. If martians came down to score this fight and left right after, there’s not one of them that would award Canelo the second fight. Not even close

Martians might be confused at the practice of our species getting into a ring to punch each other for the entertainment of others altogether

caldo2025 wrote: ↑14 Jan 2019, 22:53

gilgamesh wrote: ↑14 Jan 2019, 20:59

caldo2025 wrote: ↑14 Jan 2019, 20:56 Everyone blew Canelo because he came forward instead of running the whole night but who cares? Good for Canelo for taking the skirt off in the second fight but he still lost the fight. It’s my true belief that Canelo was given way too much for not retreating in this fight.

Canelo did great work to the body but to me, GGG clearly won the second half of the fight and won enough of the early rounds to easily get the win. If martians came down to score this fight and left right after, there’s not one of them that would award Canelo the second fight. Not even close

Martians might be confused at the practice of our species getting into a ring to punch each other for the entertainment of others altogether

That’s an interesting point man and a possible screenplay. Lol

caldo2025 wrote: ↑14 Jan 2019, 22:53

gilgamesh wrote: ↑14 Jan 2019, 20:59

caldo2025 wrote: ↑14 Jan 2019, 20:56 Everyone blew Canelo because he came forward instead of running the whole night but who cares? Good for Canelo for taking the skirt off in the second fight but he still lost the fight. It’s my true belief that Canelo was given way too much for not retreating in this fight.

Canelo did great work to the body but to me, GGG clearly won the second half of the fight and won enough of the early rounds to easily get the win. If martians came down to score this fight and left right after, there’s not one of them that would award Canelo the second fight. Not even close

Martians might be confused at the practice of our species getting into a ring to punch each other for the entertainment of others altogether

That’s an interesting point man and a possible screenplay. Lol

Onekrazyrican wrote: ↑14 Jan 2019, 17:21 Im thinking that getting the W actually hurt Canelo. He did awesome in that second fight. Fought GGG toe to toe and was on even terms throught the whole fight. They gave him the W and it just made people hate his guts. Had he came up short I think people would be praising him.

A similar thing happened with Bradley-Pac. Imagine Bradley losing that fight then we find he fought with injuries in both ankles. That W against Pac ruined the rest of his career when he could have been praised for fighting a decent fight while injured.

I really hope DLH or another promoter with power starts eliminating the ridiculous idea casual fans have that you cant be great if youre not undefeated. Its killing the sport, forcing promoters to create that illusion.

Canelo would be perfect for that. Hes an exiting young fighter. Even if he had official losses to G and Lara hes proven good enough to be in the conversation of about whos the top middleweight today. Let the guy take the L then get him back in line. Have his next DAZN fights showcase his road back to the title picture. People will watch for sure. They might even root for him...

james5000+ wrote: ↑15 Jan 2019, 03:58

Onekrazyrican wrote: ↑14 Jan 2019, 17:21 Im thinking that getting the W actually hurt Canelo. He did awesome in that second fight. Fought GGG toe to toe and was on even terms throught the whole fight. They gave him the W and it just made people hate his guts. Had he came up short I think people would be praising him.

A similar thing happened with Bradley-Pac. Imagine Bradley losing that fight then we find he fought with injuries in both ankles. That W against Pac ruined the rest of his career when he could have been praised for fighting a decent fight while injured.

I really hope DLH or another promoter with power starts eliminating the ridiculous idea casual fans have that you cant be great if youre not undefeated. Its killing the sport, forcing promoters to create that illusion.

Canelo would be perfect for that. Hes an exiting young fighter. Even if he had official losses to G and Lara hes proven good enough to be in the conversation of about whos the top middleweight today. Let the guy take the L then get him back in line. Have his next DAZN fights showcase his road back to the title picture. People will watch for sure. They might even root for him...

This is laughable. Canelo earned the win by outboxing and out fighting GGG.
Giving him an L when he earned the win would be criminal. In the history books there might be a little asterix but it would not help his legacy one little bit.

I doubt anyone would cheer for him if he got robbed lol. They would just say its only fair enough giving previous fights.
GGG fans would be unbearable even though deep down inside they know he got whooped.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑14 Jan 2019, 18:29

Onekrazyrican wrote: ↑14 Jan 2019, 17:21 Im thinking that getting the W actually hurt Canelo. He did awesome in that second fight. Fought GGG toe to toe and was on even terms throught the whole fight. They gave him the W and it just made people hate his guts. Had he came up short I think people would be praising him.

A similar thing happened with Bradley-Pac. Imagine Bradley losing that fight then we find he fought with injuries in both ankles. That W against Pac ruined the rest of his career when he could have been praised for fighting a decent fight while injured.

I really hope DLH or another promoter with power starts eliminating the ridiculous idea casual fans have that you cant be great if youre not undefeated. Its killing the sport, forcing promoters to create that illusion.

Canelo would be perfect for that. Hes an exiting young fighter. Even if he had official losses to G and Lara hes proven good enough to be in the conversation of about whos the top middleweight today. Let the guy take the L then get him back in line. Have his next DAZN fights showcase his road back to the title picture. People will watch for sure. They might even root for him...

I definitely wish people would quit being so hung up on the idea of every star boxer has to be undefeated. I'd rather just see the best routinely fight the best, and when that's the case everybody's bound to take a loss here and there. Doesn't mean they're still not a great fighter.