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Interesting fight...

How does everyone see this?

Ortiz KO or wide decision

Decent fight. Hammer won't just fall over. Ortiz the obvious favourite.

Just because Luis Ortiz is the oldest current heavyweight contender, it hardly means he can’t also be the most active.

The 39-year old Miami-based Cuban southpaw is set for what will be his 5th fight in just a 15-month span. BS,com has learned that Germany’s Christian Hammer has agreed to terms to travel to the United States for a showdown with Ortiz, with their heavyweight clash penciled in for March 2 at Barclays Center in Brooklyn, New York.

“Our goal remains to win the world heavyweight championship, hopefully in a rematch with Deontay Wilder,” Herman Caicedo, Ortiz’s longtime trainer told BS.com on Wednesday. “In the meantime, we just want to stay active and clean out the rest of the division, fighting anyone willing to get in the ring with us.”

The proposed fight will mark the one-year anniversary—almost to the day—of Ortiz’s 10th round knockout loss to Wilder, which also took place at Barclays.

In Hammer (24-5, 14KOs), he gets a serviceable journeyman whom—at the very least—was willing to take the fight. The 31-year old will make his U.S. debut, having fought largely in almost exclusively in Europe over the course of his 10-year career.

“I’ve never worried about who my opponent is,” insists Ortiz, who will get the fight in just shy of his 40th birthday. “My main goal is a rematch with Deontay Wilder, to (avenge) the only loss on my record. I can’t get him next and none of the other top heavyweights know how to return a phone call, so I just fight whoever is willing to get in the ring with me, “I just want to keep busy. I would fight every month if I could.”

The bout will come as part of a yet-to-be-announced Showtime telecast topped by a super welterweight showdown between unbeaten secondary titlist Brian Castaño and former champ Erislandy Lara.

Ortiz stops him. Not a bad fight though

smiling assassin wrote: ↑16 Jan 2019, 18:15 Ortiz stops him. Not a bad fight though

If Hammer is coming to survive like he did vs povetkin he can last the distance

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑16 Jan 2019, 18:20

smiling assassin wrote: ↑16 Jan 2019, 18:15 Ortiz stops him. Not a bad fight though

If Hammer is coming to survive like he did vs povetkin he can last the distance

Didnt see the fight mate was he in survival mode from the off

smiling assassin wrote: ↑16 Jan 2019, 18:15 Ortiz stops him. Not a bad fight though

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smiling assassin wrote: ↑16 Jan 2019, 18:31

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑16 Jan 2019, 18:20

smiling assassin wrote: ↑16 Jan 2019, 18:15 Ortiz stops him. Not a bad fight though

If Hammer is coming to survive like he did vs povetkin he can last the distance

Didnt see the fight mate was he in survival mode from the off

It was quite a weird fight.

smiling assassin wrote: ↑16 Jan 2019, 18:31

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑16 Jan 2019, 18:20

smiling assassin wrote: ↑16 Jan 2019, 18:15 Ortiz stops him. Not a bad fight though

If Hammer is coming to survive like he did vs povetkin he can last the distance

Didnt see the fight mate was he in survival mode from the off

Complete survival mode. Never tried to win a round. I had a bet on Povetkin by KO and it never looked like coming in.

Further to my comment on the CS, is Hammer the dude who has faced the highest number of confirmed drug cheats in the sport?

There's:

Tyson Fury (tested positive for nandrolone the night he beat Hammer)
Alexander Povetkin (obvs)
M. Walisch (tested positive, also the night he beat Hammer)
Erkan Teper (failed two tests & was found with a load of gear in his car)
Mariusz Wach (made of steroids, also found with a load in his car)...

& now he's fighting Ortiz (failed for 'roids after the Kayode fight & of course the m̶a̶s̶k̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶a̶g̶e̶n̶t̶s̶ blood pressure medication prior to the cancellation of the Wilder bout).

I know someone's gonna bleat "Oh but they're all on it so it doesn't matter" or some such bullshit, but to face five confirmed dirty fighters & lining himself up to face a sixth...

That's some new shiny record, I think!

Ortiz isn't very good. And he's getting more ancient all the time. Hammer probably lasts. Remember Malik Scott? If you're there to survive, Ortiz won't overexert himself.

Tuan_Jim wrote: ↑20 Jan 2019, 08:25 Ortiz isn't very good. And he's getting more ancient all the time. Hammer probably lasts. Remember Malik Scott? If you're there to survive, Ortiz won't overexert himself.

I agree, Hammer is durable enough to last, especially now, when everybody knows about Ortiz's gas tank.

how much has Ortiz left?

was very slow and ploddy in recent fights

Hammer is the most underrated hw out there...look at his record...its actually quite good considering he doesn't shy away from taking on the worlds best.

im saying one outcome could well be a points win for Hammer?

funso banjo baby wrote: ↑21 Jan 2019, 14:39 how much has Ortiz left?

was very slow and ploddy in recent fights

Hammer is the most underrated hw out there...look at his record...its actually quite good considering he doesn't shy away from taking on the worlds best.

im saying one outcome could well be a points win for Hammer?

Of course it could be, but IMHO, it won't be.

Tuan_Jim wrote: ↑20 Jan 2019, 08:25 Ortiz isn't very good. And he's getting more ancient all the time. Hammer probably lasts. Remember Malik Scott? If you're there to survive, Ortiz won't overexert himself.

I disagree. I think he is very good, but due to the ageing you mentioned, he just doesn't have the legs anymore to cut off an opponent who provides him with a lot of movement.

Nondescript wrote: ↑26 Feb 2019, 14:29

Tuan_Jim wrote: ↑20 Jan 2019, 08:25 Ortiz isn't very good. And he's getting more ancient all the time. Hammer probably lasts. Remember Malik Scott? If you're there to survive, Ortiz won't overexert himself.

I disagree. I think he is very good, but due to the ageing you mentioned, he just doesn't have the legs anymore to cut off an opponent who provides him with a lot of movement.

Me too,i thought he looked very good v Wilder.

I think Hammer is a guy who will find wanting a lot of guys who have aspirations of mixing in the top 10.

I see him as a strong, bug sturdy guy with decent enough skills and a very solid chin who also sets a decent pace despite his weight. Price lifted him off his feet but he got up dusted himself down and kept the pressure on. Obviously Povetkin and Fury are genuine top 10 heavyweights who outclassed him.

If Ortiz takes a shortcut in training it would t surprise me to see him win.

vs povetkin he simply came to cover up and survive, hammer is lower top 15-20 fighter and can score wins vs euro level opponents and find out frauds, but this is too high for him

watch him cover up and throw very little while ortiz plods around winning every round in a dull fight

Ortiz points

Nonsense, he'll stop Hammer.

IrishGuy wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 13:32 Nonsense, he'll stop Hammer.

Yeah, that's how I see it. Mid to late rounds.

he certanly might but dont tell me nonsense when he barely could stop trav kauffman in time, he simply doesnt press the matter when an opponent is just covering up

IrishGuy wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 13:32 Nonsense, he'll stop Hammer.

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Please Hammer, don't hurt 'em.