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Kubrat Pulev vs. Robert Helenius - OFF

Posted: 18 Jan 2019, 14:54
by Ruthless-RKO
One of the fights in the works for the Top Rank on ESPN PPV undercard of the Terence Crawford-Amir Khan welterweight world title fight on April 20 is a heavyweight bout between contender Kubrat Pulev, in his first fight since signing a co-promotional deal with Top Rank, and Robert Helenius, a source with knowledge of the discussions told ESPN on Thursday.

Pulev (26-1, 13 KOs), 37, of Bulgaria, is one of the mandatory challengers for three-belt unified titlist Anthony Joshua. Helenius (28-2, 17 KOs), 35, of Sweden, has won three in a row since a decision loss to Dillian Whyte in October 2017.

Dan Rafael, ESPN Senior Writer



Interesting match up. But if he fights Helenius, when will he fight Jennings?

Re: Kubrat Pulev vs. Robert Helenius - April 20, 2019

Posted: 18 Jan 2019, 14:59
by oogiebe
Decent fight. Aging Pulev may have his hands full. Another HW fight! Let Jennings get through Rivas first.

Re: Kubrat Pulev vs. Robert Helenius - April 20, 2019

Posted: 18 Jan 2019, 15:04
by Onetimeonly
I find pulev unwatchable.

Re: Kubrat Pulev vs. Robert Helenius - April 20, 2019

Posted: 18 Jan 2019, 15:07
by dagilechia
it's a good fight to stay active, nothing more than that, 120-108 Pulev.

Re: Kubrat Pulev vs. Robert Helenius - April 20, 2019

Posted: 18 Jan 2019, 15:11
by oogiebe
Onetimeonly wrote: 18 Jan 2019, 15:04 I find pulev unwatchable.
He's certainly wasn't ever exciting and his best days are behind him. He being at the bottom of the top 10 shows us the lack of depth in the division. Competitive? Yes.

Re: Kubrat Pulev vs. Robert Helenius - April 20, 2019

Posted: 18 Jan 2019, 15:11
by Nondescript
I think it's a shitty fight to be honest. Helenius just hasn't been very good for a while (post hand injury) and he's older now aswell.

I'd rather see Pulev fight someone else higher up the rankings to be honest.

Re: Kubrat Pulev vs. Robert Helenius - April 20, 2019

Posted: 18 Jan 2019, 15:12
by tiny_acres
Nondescript wrote: 18 Jan 2019, 15:11 I think it's a shitty fight to be honest. Helenius just hasn't been very good for a while (post hand injury) and he's older now aswell.

I'd rather see Pulev fight someone else higher up the rankings to be honest.
So would I. I think Helinus vs Hughie Fury would be more interesting

Re: Kubrat Pulev vs. Robert Helenius - April 20, 2019

Posted: 18 Jan 2019, 15:14
by Onetimeonly
oogiebe wrote: 18 Jan 2019, 15:11
Onetimeonly wrote: 18 Jan 2019, 15:04 I find pulev unwatchable.
He's certainly wasn't ever exciting and his best days are behind him. He being at the bottom of the top 10 shows us the lack of depth in the division. Competitive? Yes.
I doubt it will be competitive, but it damn sure will suck. Has he ever been in a good fight?

Re: Kubrat Pulev vs. Robert Helenius - April 20, 2019

Posted: 18 Jan 2019, 15:16
by Nondescript
tiny_acres wrote: 18 Jan 2019, 15:12
Nondescript wrote: 18 Jan 2019, 15:11 I think it's a shitty fight to be honest. Helenius just hasn't been very good for a while (post hand injury) and he's older now aswell.

I'd rather see Pulev fight someone else higher up the rankings to be honest.
So would I. I think Helinus vs Hughie Fury would be more interesting
Yeah that's a more interesting match up. I'd rather see Pulev against a heavyweight prospect on the rise or something. So he wins and pushes himself further into the conversation for a big fight again or the prospect wins and signals his arrival at the top end of the division.

Re: Kubrat Pulev vs. Robert Helenius - April 20, 2019

Posted: 18 Jan 2019, 15:17
by jamamb
oh gawd please dont talk about hughie, hes even worse to watch

Re: Kubrat Pulev vs. Robert Helenius - April 20, 2019

Posted: 18 Jan 2019, 15:18
by oogiebe
Onetimeonly wrote: 18 Jan 2019, 15:14
oogiebe wrote: 18 Jan 2019, 15:11
Onetimeonly wrote: 18 Jan 2019, 15:04 I find pulev unwatchable.
He's certainly wasn't ever exciting and his best days are behind him. He being at the bottom of the top 10 shows us the lack of depth in the division. Competitive? Yes.
I doubt it will be competitive, but it damn sure will suck. Has he ever been in a good fight?
Good as in enjoyable? Nope.

Re: Kubrat Pulev vs. Robert Helenius - April 20, 2019

Posted: 18 Jan 2019, 15:19
by jamamb
vs wlad was decent, but of course that was him getting ktfo :yay:

he actually went for wlad and fought aggressive and didnt just jab and grab like usual

Re: Kubrat Pulev vs. Robert Helenius - April 20, 2019

Posted: 18 Jan 2019, 15:20
by Onetimeonly
I skipped that one.

Re: Kubrat Pulev vs. Robert Helenius - April 20, 2019

Posted: 18 Jan 2019, 15:21
by oogiebe
jamamb wrote: 18 Jan 2019, 15:19 vs wlad was decent, but of course that was him getting ktfo :yay:
Vs Florian Benche but that was 2009.

Re: Kubrat Pulev vs. Robert Helenius - April 20, 2019

Posted: 18 Jan 2019, 15:28
by oogiebe
Say what you want regarding this matchup, but I'm just happy we're seeing a lot of HW's mixing it up early this year. Hope it's a sign of things to come, activity wise.

Re: Kubrat Pulev vs. Robert Helenius - April 20, 2019

Posted: 18 Jan 2019, 16:20
by conan_the_cribber
It's a smart fight for both fighters. A solid win will accelerate either career and put them back into the spotlight. Happy to see this match up.

Re: Kubrat Pulev vs. Robert Helenius - April 20, 2019

Posted: 18 Jan 2019, 16:54
by lillywhite14
Eight years ago it was interesting. Now it’s of virtually no interest at all to be honest. Certainly not at the top of the division.

Re: Kubrat Pulev vs. Robert Helenius - April 20, 2019

Posted: 18 Jan 2019, 18:02
by Nondescript
conan_the_cribber wrote: 18 Jan 2019, 16:20 It's a smart fight for both fighters. A solid win will accelerate either career and put them back into the spotlight. Happy to see this match up.
I don't really see Pulev getting a win over Helenius really accelerating his career all that much to be honest.

Re: Kubrat Pulev vs. Robert Helenius - April 20, 2019

Posted: 18 Jan 2019, 18:02
by Nondescript
lillywhite14 wrote: 18 Jan 2019, 16:54 Eight years ago it was interesting. Now it’s of virtually no interest at all to be honest. Certainly not at the top of the division.
:TU:

Re: Kubrat Pulev vs. Robert Helenius - April 20, 2019

Posted: 18 Jan 2019, 18:46
by Mexi-Box
Not a good fight for Pulev, very risky. Helenius has power. He's like David Price. They're not very good, but they have ample power to stop anyone.

No reward, high risk fight. Pulev is stupid for taking this because it doesn't do much for his profile and puts him at a significant risk.

One of those fights where I'll be holding my breath throughout.

Re: Kubrat Pulev vs. Robert Helenius - April 20, 2019

Posted: 18 Jan 2019, 18:50
by gregregegg
conan_the_cribber wrote: 18 Jan 2019, 16:20 It's a smart fight for both fighters. A solid win will accelerate either career and put them back into the spotlight. Happy to see this match up.
Isn't pulev mandatory to joshua? probably dosent need the spotlight, probably just needs to no loose till that's called. personaly i think its kinda risky for pulev cause although helenius is 7 or 8 years past his prime, so is pulev and its just a live opponent. I actually dont think this will happen, i think pulev will fight someone less risky.

Re: Kubrat Pulev vs. Robert Helenius - April 20, 2019

Posted: 18 Jan 2019, 18:53
by jamamb
its not that interesting to me but tbh helenius is still probably around 20, its a contender vs fringe contender

pulev if he wins has chisora, hughie, helenius (and thompson years ago).....thats not bad, get him parker and hes got a similar record to whyte

think several guys beat pulev though

Re: Kubrat Pulev vs. Robert Helenius - April 20, 2019

Posted: 18 Jan 2019, 18:58
by oogiebe
gregregegg wrote: 18 Jan 2019, 18:50
conan_the_cribber wrote: 18 Jan 2019, 16:20 It's a smart fight for both fighters. A solid win will accelerate either career and put them back into the spotlight. Happy to see this match up.
Isn't pulev mandatory to joshua? probably dosent need the spotlight, probably just needs to no loose till that's called. personaly i think its kinda risky for pulev cause although helenius is 7 or 8 years past his prime, so is pulev and its just a live opponent. I actually dont think this will happen, i think pulev will fight someone less risky.
Being mandatory doesn't seem matter much these days. Pulev's handlers probably figure he's months away from an AJ fight (if) and needs the work. Helenius would give him rounds and provide little risk, IMHO. Helenius had his hands full with Yury Bykhautsou twice, and his win over Teper was over a soft pudgy version. Pulev should be able to outbox Helenius and maybe even stop him if/when he wears out late in the fight. Just my opinion!

Re: Kubrat Pulev vs. Robert Helenius - April 20, 2019

Posted: 18 Jan 2019, 19:56
by joshj909
Pulev decision for me. Will be awful to watch but as people have mentioned before in this thread, atleast the heavyweights look to be taking on opposition close to their level early on this year.

Re: Kubrat Pulev vs. Robert Helenius - April 20, 2019

Posted: 18 Jan 2019, 20:23
by Ilya Muromets
Interesting fight! My man Pulev is the favorite but anything can happen. But where is this listed? Not on Boxrec.