Broner: The most hyped and overrated ever
Posted: 21 Jan 2019, 01:29
He is basically still living off his win of Antonio DeMarco.
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Re: Broner: The most hyped and overrated ever
Posted: 21 Jan 2019, 08:41
Gotta go with vitali.
Re: Broner: The most hyped and overrated ever
Posted: 21 Jan 2019, 09:39
I dunno. Vitali never needed controversial decisions to beat fringe contenders. I don't remember Vitali appearing on any pound for pound lists either.
Broner was hyped more, and achieved less. He never even had a brother blocking his path to most of the belts, or a pathetically weak division to excuse the lack of names on his record either. Old man Pacquiao just smashed Broner. Vitali was smashing old Lennox, before that cut happened (not saying he would have won, but at least he put up a fight).
Broner took 'overhyped' to a whole new level.
Re: Broner: The most hyped and overrated ever
Posted: 21 Jan 2019, 10:28
I don’t believe that Adrien Broner is the “most hyped” or the “most overrated” fighter ever.Luckybattles wrote: ↑21 Jan 2019, 01:29Broner: The most hyped and overrated ever
He is basically still living off his win of Antonio DeMarco.
People really don’t like this guy. Very few boxing pundits sing his praises. The Problem hasn’t been classed amongst the top-ten of any weight division for years. He hasn’t been in possession of a world title for at least five years.
People seem to either enjoy or become totally outraged about his pre-fight antics, which results in him being extremely successful at hyping up and promoting bouts. And fight fans keep tuning in.
I suspect a lot of people keep watching his fights to see him getting beaten up and stopped, but they always end up being disappointed. It’s not good enough for the viewing audience to see him lose, they want more – they need to see him getting hurt… and hurt badly!
If anyone really does believe Adrien Broner as being the “most hyped” or the “most overrated” fighter ever, then I’d love them to supply links to any media sources written within the last five years that seem to sing his praises! I'm pretty confident that no one will be able to find any...
Re: Broner: The most hyped and overrated ever
Posted: 21 Jan 2019, 10:32
He was undeservedly ranked at p4p #6 (or so) at one point. If you are seriously questioning this, then I question your knowledge in this sport.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑21 Jan 2019, 10:28I don’t believe that Adrien Broner is the “most hyped” or the “most overrated” fighter ever.Luckybattles wrote: ↑21 Jan 2019, 01:29Broner: The most hyped and overrated ever
He is basically still living off his win of Antonio DeMarco.
People really don’t like this guy. Very few boxing pundits sing his praises. The Problem hasn’t been classed amongst the top-ten of any weight division for years. He hasn’t been in possession of a world title for at least five years.
People seem to either enjoy or become totally outraged about his pre-fight antics, which results in him being extremely successful at hyping up and promoting bouts. And fight fans keep tuning in.
I suspect a lot of people keep watching his fights to see him getting beaten up and stopped, but they always end up being disappointed. It’s not good enough for the viewing audience to see him lose, they want more – they need to see him getting hurt… and hurt badly!
If anyone really does believe Adrien Broner as being the “most hyped” or the “most overrated” fighter ever, then I’d love them to supply links to any media sources written within the last five years that seem to sing his praises! I'm pretty confident that no one will be able to find any...
Re: Broner: The most hyped and overrated ever
Posted: 21 Jan 2019, 10:35
Broner was a good fighter but he shouldn't of gone above 1140 , he doesn't have to dedication to be a real no1
Re: Broner: The most hyped and overrated ever
Posted: 21 Jan 2019, 10:37
Adrien Broner was classed amongst the top-ten pound-for-pound elite for only a few months (definitely less than a year). And this was six years ago. ‘The Problem’ only arrived on the world scene the year prior. He never managed to recover his status in the sport after the Maidana defeat of 2013.Mexi-Box wrote: ↑21 Jan 2019, 10:32He was undeservedly ranked at p4p #6 (or so) at one point. If you are seriously questioning this, then I question your knowledge in this sport.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑21 Jan 2019, 10:28I don’t believe that Adrien Broner is the “most hyped” or the “most overrated” fighter ever.Luckybattles wrote: ↑21 Jan 2019, 01:29Broner: The most hyped and overrated ever
He is basically still living off his win of Antonio DeMarco.
People really don’t like this guy. Very few boxing pundits sing his praises. The Problem hasn’t been classed amongst the top-ten of any weight division for years. He hasn’t been in possession of a world title for at least five years.
People seem to either enjoy or become totally outraged about his pre-fight antics, which results in him being extremely successful at hyping up and promoting bouts. And fight fans keep tuning in.
I suspect a lot of people keep watching his fights to see him getting beaten up and stopped, but they always end up being disappointed. It’s not good enough for the viewing audience to see him lose, they want more – they need to see him getting hurt… and hurt badly!
If anyone really does believe Adrien Broner as being the “most hyped” or the “most overrated” fighter ever, then I’d love them to supply links to any media sources written within the last five years that seem to sing his praises! I'm pretty confident that no one will be able to find any...
I’d argue that Broner has received very little hype and was rated by very few within the last five years or so. He attracts controversy, usually for non-sporting reasons, and this keeps him on everyone's radar.
For a career spanning almost eleven years, being rated amongst the pound-for-pound elite for only a few months, is insufficient justification to lay claim that Adrien Broner as being the “most hyped” or the “most overrated” fighter ever.
Re: Broner: The most hyped and overrated ever
Posted: 21 Jan 2019, 14:49
You're kidding right? There are fighters out there with betters skills that have never seen themselves listed on the p4p list. You're obvious bias and too stubborn to admit you are wrong here.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑21 Jan 2019, 10:37Adrien Broner was classed amongst the top-ten pound-for-pound elite for only a few months (definitely less than a year). And this was six years ago. ‘The Problem’ only arrived on the world scene the year prior. He never managed to recover his status in the sport after the Maidana defeat of 2013.Mexi-Box wrote: ↑21 Jan 2019, 10:32He was undeservedly ranked at p4p #6 (or so) at one point. If you are seriously questioning this, then I question your knowledge in this sport.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑21 Jan 2019, 10:28
I don’t believe that Adrien Broner is the “most hyped” or the “most overrated” fighter ever.
People really don’t like this guy. Very few boxing pundits sing his praises. The Problem hasn’t been classed amongst the top-ten of any weight division for years. He hasn’t been in possession of a world title for at least five years.
People seem to either enjoy or become totally outraged about his pre-fight antics, which results in him being extremely successful at hyping up and promoting bouts. And fight fans keep tuning in.
I suspect a lot of people keep watching his fights to see him getting beaten up and stopped, but they always end up being disappointed. It’s not good enough for the viewing audience to see him lose, they want more – they need to see him getting hurt… and hurt badly!
If anyone really does believe Adrien Broner as being the “most hyped” or the “most overrated” fighter ever, then I’d love them to supply links to any media sources written within the last five years that seem to sing his praises! I'm pretty confident that no one will be able to find any...
I’d argue that Broner has received very little hype and was rated by very few within the last five years or so. He attracts controversy, usually for non-sporting reasons, and this keeps him on everyone's radar.
For a career spanning almost eleven years, being rated amongst the pound-for-pound elite for only a few months, is insufficient justification to lay claim that Adrien Broner as being the “most hyped” or the “most overrated” fighter ever.
Re: Broner: The most hyped and overrated ever
Posted: 21 Jan 2019, 15:44
OK, explain the reason why you think I’m biased?Mexi-Box wrote: ↑21 Jan 2019, 14:49You're kidding right? There are fighters out there with betters skills that have never seen themselves listed on the p4p list. You're obvious bias and too stubborn to admit you are wrong here.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑21 Jan 2019, 10:37Adrien Broner was classed amongst the top-ten pound-for-pound elite for only a few months (definitely less than a year). And this was six years ago. ‘The Problem’ only arrived on the world scene the year prior. He never managed to recover his status in the sport after the Maidana defeat of 2013.
I’d argue that Broner has received very little hype and was rated by very few within the last five years or so. He attracts controversy, usually for non-sporting reasons, and this keeps him on everyone's radar.
For a career spanning almost eleven years, being rated amongst the pound-for-pound elite for only a few months, is insufficient justification to lay claim that Adrien Broner as being the “most hyped” or the “most overrated” fighter ever.
Provide a recent quote of my words where I sing Broner’s praises.
My posts in relation to this matters are mainly compromised of facts.
During Adrien Broner’s very brief stint as being a member of the top ten pound-for-pound elite, he was an unbeaten 23 year old three weight champion.
Re: Broner: The most hyped and overrated ever
Posted: 21 Jan 2019, 15:50
Who even hyped Broner? Or even rates him?
Re: Broner: The most hyped and overrated ever
Posted: 21 Jan 2019, 16:30
Mexi-Box has also claimed that Adrien Broner is the best scalp on the collective resumes of Mikey Garcia and Terence Crawford -- who have beaten JML, Yuri Gamboa, and Orlando Salido. Is Broner actually better than these previous occupants of the p4p top 10 (and Salido), or is Mexi-Box overrating Broner?
Re: Broner: The most hyped and overrated ever
Posted: 21 Jan 2019, 16:33
You're bias against the facts and just want to spew out your own agenda. As I said, I just cut through your agenda. He was overrated, severely since his inclusion in the p4p list. He was thought to be the next Mayweather before the Maidana loss.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑21 Jan 2019, 15:44OK, explain the reason why you think I’m biased?Mexi-Box wrote: ↑21 Jan 2019, 14:49You're kidding right? There are fighters out there with betters skills that have never seen themselves listed on the p4p list. You're obvious bias and too stubborn to admit you are wrong here.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑21 Jan 2019, 10:37
Adrien Broner was classed amongst the top-ten pound-for-pound elite for only a few months (definitely less than a year). And this was six years ago. ‘The Problem’ only arrived on the world scene the year prior. He never managed to recover his status in the sport after the Maidana defeat of 2013.
I’d argue that Broner has received very little hype and was rated by very few within the last five years or so. He attracts controversy, usually for non-sporting reasons, and this keeps him on everyone's radar.
For a career spanning almost eleven years, being rated amongst the pound-for-pound elite for only a few months, is insufficient justification to lay claim that Adrien Broner as being the “most hyped” or the “most overrated” fighter ever.
Provide a recent quote of my words where I sing Broner’s praises.
My posts in relation to this matters are mainly compromised of facts.
During Adrien Broner’s very brief stint as being a member of the top ten pound-for-pound elite, he was an unbeaten 23 year old three weight champion.
Watch the Pacquiao fight, and the commentators talk about Broner as if he has the talent to be a great fighter but doesn't want to be. Hell, he landed one good punch throughout the fight, and the commentators talked about him being some offensive standout. Maybe watch and listen to fights instead of just ignoring what doesn't fit your dumb agenda.
Re: Broner: The most hyped and overrated ever
Posted: 21 Jan 2019, 16:36
I'd really like you to post that because Salido, the #1 RING FW at the time, is probably the best win on either's resume. Broner is a better win than Gamboa or JML. It doesn't take an idiot to see that, but I guess it does for Jokeos who just looks at BoxRec resumes.Lackeos wrote: ↑21 Jan 2019, 16:30 Mexi-Box has also claimed that Adrien Broner is the best scalp on the collective resumes of Mikey Garcia and Terence Crawford -- who have beaten JML, Yuri Gamboa, and Orlando Salido. Is Broner actually better than these previous occupants of the p4p top 10 (and Salido), or is Mexi-Box overrating Broner?
Gamboa was a severly undersized 135 lber that hadn't look good at that weight class. I also shouldn't even get into JML. I hope you're talking about Juanma because I'm about to laugh hard if you think JML (when Mikey fought him) is as good of a scalp as Broner at 140.
Re: Broner: The most hyped and overrated ever
Posted: 21 Jan 2019, 16:38
Agreed! That’s precisely what I’ve been saying.
Re: Broner: The most hyped and overrated ever
Posted: 21 Jan 2019, 16:44
OK, instead of making unsubstantiated sweeping statements, why don’t you instead quote my words and then challenge my thoughts head-on?Mexi-Box wrote: ↑21 Jan 2019, 16:33You're bias against the facts and just want to spew out your own agenda.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑21 Jan 2019, 15:44OK, explain the reason why you think I’m biased?
Provide a recent quote of my words where I sing Broner’s praises.
My posts in relation to this matters are mainly compromised of facts.
During Adrien Broner’s very brief stint as being a member of the top ten pound-for-pound elite, he was an unbeaten 23 year old three weight champion.
You say all sorts of things about me but rarely justify your claims.
Re: Broner: The most hyped and overrated ever
Posted: 21 Jan 2019, 16:45
I just showed you the facts and you still want to carry on with your agenda. I already challenged you head-on. I've not seen a response yet except whining. Go ahead and argue what I brought up.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑21 Jan 2019, 16:44OK, instead of making unsubstantiated sweeping statements, why don’t you instead quote my words and then challenge my thoughts head-on?Mexi-Box wrote: ↑21 Jan 2019, 16:33You're bias against the facts and just want to spew out your own agenda.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑21 Jan 2019, 15:44
OK, explain the reason why you think I’m biased?
Provide a recent quote of my words where I sing Broner’s praises.
My posts in relation to this matters are mainly compromised of facts.
During Adrien Broner’s very brief stint as being a member of the top ten pound-for-pound elite, he was an unbeaten 23 year old three weight champion.
You say all sorts of things about me but rarely justify it.
Re: Broner: The most hyped and overrated ever
Posted: 21 Jan 2019, 17:03
Mexi-Box wrote: ↑21 Jan 2019, 16:36I'd really like you to post that because Salido, the #1 RING FW at the time, is probably the best win on either's resume. Broner is a better win than Gamboa or JML. It doesn't take an idiot to see that, but I guess it does for Jokeos who just looks at BoxRec resumes.Lackeos wrote: ↑21 Jan 2019, 16:30 Mexi-Box has also claimed that Adrien Broner is the best scalp on the collective resumes of Mikey Garcia and Terence Crawford -- who have beaten JML, Yuri Gamboa, and Orlando Salido. Is Broner actually better than these previous occupants of the p4p top 10 (and Salido), or is Mexi-Box overrating Broner?
Gamboa was a severly undersized 135 lber that hadn't look good at that weight class. I also shouldn't even get into JML. I hope you're talking about Juanma because I'm about to laugh hard if you think JML (when Mikey fought him) is as good of a scalp as Broner at 140.
See the bolded parts.Mexi-Box wrote: ↑10 Jun 2018, 15:28 Not even close when you have guys like Usyk, Lomachenko, Mikey, Sor Rungvisai, and Inoue all putting on great performances against good competition. Not even sure if Crawford's resume is better than Mikey's. Mikey has the best single win in Broner.
Would have to do a deep comparison between Inoue and Crawford's resume.
Re: Broner: The most hyped and overrated ever
Posted: 21 Jan 2019, 17:06
I found it for you, Jokeos.
Not even close when you have guys like Usyk, Lomachenko, Mikey, Sor Rungvisai, and Inoue all putting on great performances against good competition. Not even sure if Crawford's resume is better than Mikey's. Mikey has the best single win in Broner.
Would have to do a deep comparison between Inoue and Crawford's resume.
Totally forgot about Salido when I posted this, which I just corrected myself. Either way, Broner is Mikey's second best win (unless Lipinets does something impressive).
Broner would be the best win on Crawford's resume until he fights Khan. And that's not overrating anyone. Mikey and Crawford's, especially Crawford's, resumes aren't all that great. They're mainly p4p listed because of their dominance and their moving through the weight classes.
Not even close when you have guys like Usyk, Lomachenko, Mikey, Sor Rungvisai, and Inoue all putting on great performances against good competition. Not even sure if Crawford's resume is better than Mikey's. Mikey has the best single win in Broner.
Would have to do a deep comparison between Inoue and Crawford's resume.
Totally forgot about Salido when I posted this, which I just corrected myself. Either way, Broner is Mikey's second best win (unless Lipinets does something impressive).
Broner would be the best win on Crawford's resume until he fights Khan. And that's not overrating anyone. Mikey and Crawford's, especially Crawford's, resumes aren't all that great. They're mainly p4p listed because of their dominance and their moving through the weight classes.
Re: Broner: The most hyped and overrated ever
Posted: 21 Jan 2019, 17:09
Already found it and gave my statement.Lackeos wrote: ↑21 Jan 2019, 17:03Mexi-Box wrote: ↑21 Jan 2019, 16:36I'd really like you to post that because Salido, the #1 RING FW at the time, is probably the best win on either's resume. Broner is a better win than Gamboa or JML. It doesn't take an idiot to see that, but I guess it does for Jokeos who just looks at BoxRec resumes.Lackeos wrote: ↑21 Jan 2019, 16:30 Mexi-Box has also claimed that Adrien Broner is the best scalp on the collective resumes of Mikey Garcia and Terence Crawford -- who have beaten JML, Yuri Gamboa, and Orlando Salido. Is Broner actually better than these previous occupants of the p4p top 10 (and Salido), or is Mexi-Box overrating Broner?
Gamboa was a severly undersized 135 lber that hadn't look good at that weight class. I also shouldn't even get into JML. I hope you're talking about Juanma because I'm about to laugh hard if you think JML (when Mikey fought him) is as good of a scalp as Broner at 140.See the bolded parts.Mexi-Box wrote: ↑10 Jun 2018, 15:28 Not even close when you have guys like Usyk, Lomachenko, Mikey, Sor Rungvisai, and Inoue all putting on great performances against good competition. Not even sure if Crawford's resume is better than Mikey's. Mikey has the best single win in Broner.
Would have to do a deep comparison between Inoue and Crawford's resume.
Re: Broner: The most hyped and overrated ever
Posted: 21 Jan 2019, 17:15
Shooter Shane Mosely is the most overrated Boxer in history but it’s beginning to get close with he and Broner. Both guys have lost every big fight they’ve been in (if you don’t count Mosely’s PED fights).
I think that we’ve seen the last of Broner in any PPV main events. He may get on an undercard but he’s just turned into a boring counter puncher who’s bark is all that he has. He’s now been outclassed by all of the upper class men of his weight classes. He’s all done
I think that we’ve seen the last of Broner in any PPV main events. He may get on an undercard but he’s just turned into a boring counter puncher who’s bark is all that he has. He’s now been outclassed by all of the upper class men of his weight classes. He’s all done
Re: Broner: The most hyped and overrated ever
Posted: 21 Jan 2019, 17:23
The pathetic thing is that Broner should be in his prime years now. Difficult to remember he's only 29. We are all looking BACK on his career when we might otherwise be looking ahead. What a waste of talent.
Re: Broner: The most hyped and overrated ever
Posted: 21 Jan 2019, 17:28
Vitali is constantly listed on here as being an atg despite having zero wins of note. Broner isn't on anyone's list, vitali has a garbage resume, he lost to the two best fighters he faced and fans still suck him off. It's not broners fault fans still fall for his limitationsDeleted_Scenes wrote: ↑21 Jan 2019, 09:39I dunno. Vitali never needed controversial decisions to beat fringe contenders. I don't remember Vitali appearing on any pound for pound lists either.
Broner was hyped more, and achieved less. He never even had a brother blocking his path to most of the belts, or a pathetically weak division to excuse the lack of names on his record either. Old man Pacquiao just smashed Broner. Vitali was smashing old Lennox, before that cut happened (not saying he would have won, but at least he put up a fight).
Broner took 'overhyped' to a whole new level.
Re: Broner: The most hyped and overrated ever
Posted: 21 Jan 2019, 17:30
What talent did he waste? He's very consistent, just never had what fans hoped for or wanted. Like a poor man's zab
Re: Broner: The most hyped and overrated ever
Posted: 21 Jan 2019, 17:32
Seemed to me he just didn't put the work in, so he must have some level of talent, given his accomplishments. Was never the same after kissing the canvass against Maidana. Maybe I give him too much credit.Onetimeonly wrote: ↑21 Jan 2019, 17:30What talent did he waste? He's very consistent, just never had what fans hoped for or wanted. Like a poor man's zab
Re: Broner: The most hyped and overrated ever
Posted: 21 Jan 2019, 17:40
The only person that hypes Broner, is himself!