Canzoneri-Sanchez: Who was better?
Posted: 22 Jan 2019, 12:04
Thought this would be interesting. Two guys from different eras. Who was the better of the two?
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Posted: 22 Jan 2019, 13:19
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Posted: 22 Jan 2019, 13:19
Salvador?
I think maybe Sal’s 126 standing is higher but I’ve never really though how a match would look. Canzoneri was a superb all around fighter and he had the more complete career. I think Tony is a top 20 all-time pound for pound guy whereas I don’t think Sal’s ceiling was that high.
I think maybe Sal’s 126 standing is higher but I’ve never really though how a match would look. Canzoneri was a superb all around fighter and he had the more complete career. I think Tony is a top 20 all-time pound for pound guy whereas I don’t think Sal’s ceiling was that high.
Re: Canzoneri-Sanchez: Who was better?
Posted: 22 Jan 2019, 17:04
Canzoneri's body of work is supreme. Sanchez's career was cut short, but many feel he was as good as he was going to get. What else can you go by? Canzoneri.
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Posted: 22 Jan 2019, 17:48
Clearly canzoneri
Re: Canzoneri-Sanchez: Who was better?
Posted: 24 Jan 2019, 11:21
I think if Sanchez would not have died, he may have had the better career. I think he was as good of a fighter. However, Canzoneri obviously did it for longer. Who knows, maybe Sanchez's career would have petered out. We will never know. But I guess we can only go with what actually happened, so I guess we have to go with Canzoneri.
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Posted: 24 Jan 2019, 13:29
Better resume? Tony Canzoneri. I consider him as one of the top 15 or 20 greatest pound per pound boxers ever.
Better fighter? Salvador Sanchez. He was a complete fighter that did it all. One of the best I have seen fight in my 40 years of watching boxing.
He is not a top 20, nor 30 all time pound per pound, but he's top 50, according to his accomplishments. Too bad he died so soon. He still had many great fights ahead of him.
Better fighter? Salvador Sanchez. He was a complete fighter that did it all. One of the best I have seen fight in my 40 years of watching boxing.
He is not a top 20, nor 30 all time pound per pound, but he's top 50, according to his accomplishments. Too bad he died so soon. He still had many great fights ahead of him.
Re: Canzoneri-Sanchez: Who was better?
Posted: 24 Jan 2019, 14:04
I loved Sanchez, but I believe he was close to as good as he was going to get. He was 23 and at a lower weight class; he was already in his prime, IMHO. All the talk of Sanchez I think I'll watch the Nelson fight tonight.elmersalsa wrote: ↑24 Jan 2019, 13:29 Better resume? Tony Canzoneri. I consider him as one of the top 15 or 20 greatest pound per pound boxers ever.
Better fighter? Salvador Sanchez. He was a complete fighter that did it all. One of the best I have seen fight in my 40 years of watching boxing.
He is not a top 20, nor 30 all time pound per pound, but he's top 50, according to his accomplishments. Too bad he died so soon. He still had many great fights ahead of him.
Re: Canzoneri-Sanchez: Who was better?
Posted: 24 Jan 2019, 17:29
You won't find many bigger supporters of Sanchez than me. I love the man. However, I do agree that he wasn't improving drastically as a fighter. It's possible he died at his peak and his best wins had been scored and they were great wins.oogiebe wrote: ↑24 Jan 2019, 14:04I loved Sanchez, but I believe he was close to as good as he was going to get. He was 23 and at a lower weight class; he was already in his prime, IMHO. All the talk of Sanchez I think I'll watch the Nelson fight tonight.elmersalsa wrote: ↑24 Jan 2019, 13:29 Better resume? Tony Canzoneri. I consider him as one of the top 15 or 20 greatest pound per pound boxers ever.
Better fighter? Salvador Sanchez. He was a complete fighter that did it all. One of the best I have seen fight in my 40 years of watching boxing.
He is not a top 20, nor 30 all time pound per pound, but he's top 50, according to his accomplishments. Too bad he died so soon. He still had many great fights ahead of him.
Did I ever share what Nacho Beristain had said about him? I had spoke to Nacho at a Marquez training session and he seemed to have an almost personal dislike of the guy. Weird.
Re: Canzoneri-Sanchez: Who was better?
Posted: 24 Jan 2019, 17:33
Weird, but I never met Sanchez, so he may have had his reasons.chrisjs1985 wrote: ↑24 Jan 2019, 17:29You won't find many bigger supporters of Sanchez than me. I love the man. However, I do agree that he wasn't improving drastically as a fighter. It's possible he died at his peak and his best wins had been scored and they were great wins.oogiebe wrote: ↑24 Jan 2019, 14:04I loved Sanchez, but I believe he was close to as good as he was going to get. He was 23 and at a lower weight class; he was already in his prime, IMHO. All the talk of Sanchez I think I'll watch the Nelson fight tonight.elmersalsa wrote: ↑24 Jan 2019, 13:29 Better resume? Tony Canzoneri. I consider him as one of the top 15 or 20 greatest pound per pound boxers ever.
Better fighter? Salvador Sanchez. He was a complete fighter that did it all. One of the best I have seen fight in my 40 years of watching boxing.
He is not a top 20, nor 30 all time pound per pound, but he's top 50, according to his accomplishments. Too bad he died so soon. He still had many great fights ahead of him.
Did I ever share what Nacho Beristain had said about him? I had spoke to Nacho at a Marquez training session and he seemed to have an almost personal dislike of the guy. Weird.
You may have mentioned what he said about Sanchez, but I don't remember. What did Nacho say?
Re: Canzoneri-Sanchez: Who was better?
Posted: 24 Jan 2019, 18:24
I think Nelson would have won a rematch
Re: Canzoneri-Sanchez: Who was better?
Posted: 24 Jan 2019, 18:30
It was such a close fight. He may have. Shame we'll never know. I watched it today. What a great fight!
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Posted: 24 Jan 2019, 22:36
The ONLY THING that I didn't like about Salvador Sanchez was that he didn't make a mega fight with one of my favorites, Eusebio Pedroza. It would have been a great unification featherweight Championship match.
Other than that, he was a once in a lifetime talent. A complete fighter that can also fight well inside as anybody. A tremendous counter puncher with great stamina for the late rounds. Oh, don't forget his chin, will and determination. A class act.
Other than that, he was a once in a lifetime talent. A complete fighter that can also fight well inside as anybody. A tremendous counter puncher with great stamina for the late rounds. Oh, don't forget his chin, will and determination. A class act.
Re: Canzoneri-Sanchez: Who was better?
Posted: 25 Jan 2019, 00:05
It was the wbc & wba that prevented that fight. Not sal.
Re: Canzoneri-Sanchez: Who was better?
Posted: 25 Jan 2019, 11:33
Sanchez was killed when he was 23. Any unfinished business wasn't his fault.
Re: Canzoneri-Sanchez: Who was better?
Posted: 25 Jan 2019, 12:49
That fight basically couldn't happen. The WBC/WBA is basically like Al Haymon and rival promoters these days. The fights really couldn't happen. Larry Holmes never unified but he was damn sure THEE heavyweight champion of the world.elmersalsa wrote: ↑24 Jan 2019, 22:36 The ONLY THING that I didn't like about Salvador Sanchez was that he didn't make a mega fight with one of my favorites, Eusebio Pedroza. It would have been a great unification featherweight Championship match.
Other than that, he was a once in a lifetime talent. A complete fighter that can also fight well inside as anybody. A tremendous counter puncher with great stamina for the late rounds. Oh, don't forget his chin, will and determination. A class act.
Re: Canzoneri-Sanchez: Who was better?
Posted: 30 Jan 2019, 03:26
Canzoneri was both better (by a little) and greater (by a lot).
Re: Canzoneri-Sanchez: Who was better?
Posted: 03 Feb 2019, 19:37
It would have been great to see Sanchez mixed it up with the lightweights of the mid 1980s
Alexis Argüello
José Luis Ramírez
Héctor Camacho
Ray Mancini
Livingstone Bramble
Greg Huagen
Vinny Pazienza
Harry Arroyo
Jimmy Paul
Anyone of these fights would have been a must see.
Alexis Argüello
José Luis Ramírez
Héctor Camacho
Ray Mancini
Livingstone Bramble
Greg Huagen
Vinny Pazienza
Harry Arroyo
Jimmy Paul
Anyone of these fights would have been a must see.
Re: Canzoneri-Sanchez: Who was better?
Posted: 03 Feb 2019, 19:39
Especially Arguello for me. I'd love to see that matchup. Both fighters are amongst my all time favs!APerno wrote: ↑03 Feb 2019, 19:37 It would have been great to see Sanchez mixed it up with the lightweights of the mid 1980s
Alexis Argüello
José Luis Ramírez
Héctor Camacho
Ray Mancini
Livingstone Bramble
Greg Huagen
Vinny Pazienza
Harry Arroyo
Jimmy Paul
Anyone of these fights would have been a must see.