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jamamb wrote: ↑30 Jan 2019, 19:08 kab never fough berg

oogiebe wrote: ↑30 Jan 2019, 18:57 EBU heavyweight champ Agit Kabayel will, according to the EBU, defend the title on March 2 in Magdeburg on a SES promotion.

The opponent will be Ukrainian Andriy Rudenko, 32-3, who returned late December after being inactive since losing to Alexander Povetkin in July of 2017.

This voluntary defence came about after mandatory challenger Otto Wallin stepped aside after his trainer Joey Gamache had been seriously injured after being attacked in New York.

First fight for Kabayel (18-0) since April. Rudenko (32-3) is ranked 80th by BoxRec and has lost to Povetkin by UD in July of 2017, as well as decision losses to Hughie Fury and Lucas Browne.

Kabayel is no. 16 BoxRec rank, and owns a majority decision victory over Derek Chisora. This fight will prove little about Kabayel, who hopefully will have a better matchup this year. It should be noted that Rudenko was taken the distance by Jason Bergman, who was KO'd in 1 by Arslanbek Makhmudov this past weekend.

punchoutsb wrote: ↑30 Jan 2019, 19:10 Bergman went the distance with Rudenko, not Kabayal, and was stopped in one by Makhmudov.

Kabayal went 3-2 in Biggers Better, which doesn't reflect on his pro record (which is a bit odd since Prizefighter tourney fights do). He lost 3 round decisions to Fabrice Aurieng and Evgeny Orlov.

Rudenko is a live dog for sure; Wallin would beat either IMO.

punchoutsb wrote: ↑30 Jan 2019, 19:10 Bergman went the distance with Rudenko, not Kabayal, and was stopped in one by Makhmudov.

Kabayal went 3-2 in Biggers Better, which doesn't reflect on his pro record (which is a bit odd since Prizefighter tourney fights do). He lost 3 round decisions to Fabrice Aurieng and Evgeny Orlov.

Rudenko is a live dog for sure; Wallin would beat either IMO.

jamamb wrote: ↑30 Jan 2019, 19:12 tbf he was like 18 or 19 then and arent those 3 round fights

oogiebe wrote: ↑30 Jan 2019, 19:16

punchoutsb wrote: ↑30 Jan 2019, 19:10 Bergman went the distance with Rudenko, not Kabayal, and was stopped in one by Makhmudov.

Kabayal went 3-2 in Biggers Better, which doesn't reflect on his pro record (which is a bit odd since Prizefighter tourney fights do). He lost 3 round decisions to Fabrice Aurieng and Evgeny Orlov.

Rudenko is a live dog for sure; Wallin would beat either IMO.

I seriously don't get Kabayel's ranking, other than the weight of the Chisora fight. He just doesn't look that good. Thin division.

punchoutsb wrote: ↑30 Jan 2019, 19:17

jamamb wrote: ↑30 Jan 2019, 19:12 tbf he was like 18 or 19 then and arent those 3 round fights

Yes on both counts. But I thought it was still worth mentioning. Not sure why they aren't counted but prizefighter are. Commission related no doubt.

jamamb wrote: ↑30 Jan 2019, 19:18

oogiebe wrote: ↑30 Jan 2019, 19:16

punchoutsb wrote: ↑30 Jan 2019, 19:10 Bergman went the distance with Rudenko, not Kabayal, and was stopped in one by Makhmudov.

Kabayal went 3-2 in Biggers Better, which doesn't reflect on his pro record (which is a bit odd since Prizefighter tourney fights do). He lost 3 round decisions to Fabrice Aurieng and Evgeny Orlov.

Rudenko is a live dog for sure; Wallin would beat either IMO.

I seriously don't get Kabayel's ranking, other than the weight of the Chisora fight. He just doesn't look that good. Thin division.

lol u said you really liked how he looked and since then his only fight was a destruction of a guy who drew with dimitrenko

when did he suddenly start looking not very good

jamamb wrote: ↑30 Jan 2019, 19:33 i mean u said he looked good enough to be world class but now hes not very good? i just dont get it

i just post no frills bruh, u post more so u get more replies usually , nothing personal to anyone, its just an internet forum, sorry to anyones feelings i hurt, i love u all

oogiebe wrote: ↑30 Jan 2019, 19:16

punchoutsb wrote: ↑30 Jan 2019, 19:10 Bergman went the distance with Rudenko, not Kabayal, and was stopped in one by Makhmudov.

Kabayal went 3-2 in Biggers Better, which doesn't reflect on his pro record (which is a bit odd since Prizefighter tourney fights do). He lost 3 round decisions to Fabrice Aurieng and Evgeny Orlov.

Rudenko is a live dog for sure; Wallin would beat either IMO.

I seriously don't get Kabayel's ranking, other than the weight of the Chisora fight. He just doesn't look that good. Thin division.

Lackeos wrote: ↑31 Jan 2019, 00:21

oogiebe wrote: ↑30 Jan 2019, 19:16

punchoutsb wrote: ↑30 Jan 2019, 19:10 Bergman went the distance with Rudenko, not Kabayal, and was stopped in one by Makhmudov.

Kabayal went 3-2 in Biggers Better, which doesn't reflect on his pro record (which is a bit odd since Prizefighter tourney fights do). He lost 3 round decisions to Fabrice Aurieng and Evgeny Orlov.

Rudenko is a live dog for sure; Wallin would beat either IMO.

I seriously don't get Kabayel's ranking, other than the weight of the Chisora fight. He just doesn't look that good. Thin division.

Carlos Takam was ranked around #10 in public opinion after giving Joshua a hard time, and having some good older results against Perez and Thompson. Chisora was ranked around #10 after he KO'ed Takam. Kabayel beat Chisora. Why is that hard to understand? He also steamrolled Rovcanin, who should probably have a higher boxrec rating than he does.
Do you think Kabayel should be ranked below a bunch of guys who've never beat anyone as good as Chisora?

Rank - Fighter - Best Win
16 - Kabayel - Chisora
17 - Schwarz - Gashi
18 - Hunter - Ustinov
19 - Chisora - Takam or Scott
20 - Gorman - Turner
21 - Helenius - past-it Sam Peter
22 - Ruiz Jr. - Tor Hamer?
23 - Carman - Kean

Seriously, Kabayel beat a guy who was top 15 at the time, and the guys ranked below Kabayel have virtually no top 25 scalps between them, except for the guy Kabayel beat.

joshj909 wrote: ↑31 Jan 2019, 10:58 Anyone know what's going on with Wallin and his trainer? Like how long could that postpone the fight with Kabayel?

This is an ok keep busy fight but a step up is needed for Kabayel. Did well against Chisora but has taken a step back since then.