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WBSS a project destined to fail...

Posted: 31 Jan 2019, 05:47
by kbackup408
As a boxing fan this tournament has been brilliant enjoyed last season but I always had my doubts coming from a financial aspect.

I just don't understand how the promoters make money from this tournament feels like a sinking ship - the only way this model is viable is, if each fight is at premium to customers (which is utterly sh!te)

Any ideas?

Re: WBSS a project destined to fail...

Posted: 31 Jan 2019, 09:43
by samwbr
Seems dead in the water. Shame.

Re: WBSS a project destined to fail...

Posted: 31 Jan 2019, 09:51
by handsofstone
Gutted to see Baranchyk pull out the tourney

Re: WBSS a project destined to fail...

Posted: 31 Jan 2019, 10:04
by handsofstone
WBSS have just confirmed Baranchyk/Taylor for may 18th

Re: WBSS a project destined to fail...

Posted: 31 Jan 2019, 11:14
by kbackup408
handsofstone wrote: 31 Jan 2019, 10:04 WBSS have just confirmed Baranchyk/Taylor for may 18th
Have you read the statement they just put out mate, absolutely pathetic from Camosa !!

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Re: WBSS a project destined to fail...

Posted: 31 Jan 2019, 12:27
by J.Rotherhithe
I'm not too familiar with the financial intricacies but I'd be pretty gutted if Season 2 came to a halt. Forgive me if this is naive but surely Baranchyk stands to earn far less waiting for a mandatory or hand-picked opponent with his smaller profile (for certain absolutly no-one bar hardcore knows of him).

Season 1 was huge and a massive bonus for the sport, churning out an undisputed champion in the modern sense. I was surpised they went back with another Cruiserweight round this time,

The prospect of Josh Taylor winning (although I think he'll just be beaten in the final) has kept me glued, even the Bantamweight division which I'm normally not too fond of has introduced me to some fighters I'd never have bothered with.

Hope it all gets sorted.

Re: WBSS a project destined to fail...

Posted: 31 Jan 2019, 13:48
by lefthook82
Should never have done the second CW. That could have saved some money.

Nice idea in theory but how was it supposed to make money with all those big purses

Re: WBSS a project destined to fail...

Posted: 31 Jan 2019, 13:52
by Onetimeonly
You had to question the sustainability with little caring about the us and UK markets, but I wouldn't say it failed. If there is never another fight under their banner I'll still remember the attempt and bouts fondly.

Re: WBSS a project destined to fail...

Posted: 31 Jan 2019, 15:44
by SAPFO
Maybe it's just a break even venture for the good of the sport? And Callie gets to lord in and get wasted all expenses...

Re: WBSS a project destined to fail...

Posted: 31 Jan 2019, 16:29
by Boxerbeetle
SAPFO wrote: 31 Jan 2019, 15:44 Maybe it's just a break even venture for the good of the sport?
More likely to be a giant money laundering scam...

Re: WBSS a project destined to fail...

Posted: 31 Jan 2019, 16:32
by handsofstone
Onetimeonly wrote: 31 Jan 2019, 13:52 You had to question the sustainability with little caring about the us and UK markets, but I wouldn't say it failed. If there is never another fight under their banner I'll still remember the attempt and bouts fondly.
Absolutely if even for only last years Cruiserweights

Re: WBSS a project destined to fail...

Posted: 31 Jan 2019, 17:34
by KiwiRider
Onetimeonly wrote: 31 Jan 2019, 13:52 You had to question the sustainability with little caring about the us and UK markets, but I wouldn't say it failed. If there is never another fight under their banner I'll still remember the attempt and bouts fondly.
How can they not be catering for the UK market?
With another big card in Scotland and the fights available live or anytime (free) on YouTube?

Re: WBSS a project destined to fail...

Posted: 31 Jan 2019, 17:46
by Boxing101101
It started off a great idea and season 1 was a success despite having a few potential problems. The bantamweight and super lightweight line ups looked good. the cruiserweight tournament wasn't really needed and considering that it is meant to be the best fighting the best but there is only 1 top 4 cruiserweight and no belts it doesn't really make sense.


I think part of the problem is that compared to season 1 season 2 does not seem as organised. with season 1 the fights were announced weeks in advance and tv deals in the uk were set up. This year however fights are being announced within 2-3 weeks of them happening and no tv deal in the uk hasn't helped also the time between the quarters and the semis is much longer which has not helped keeping interest in the tournament.


if the story about Ivan not getting paid is true then that is basically the end of the wbss as no fighter is going to want to go in it plus after season 2 I cant see any other weight divisions where they will be able to do a tournament anyway.

Re: WBSS a project destined to fail...

Posted: 31 Jan 2019, 17:51
by Onetimeonly
KiwiRider wrote: 31 Jan 2019, 17:34
Onetimeonly wrote: 31 Jan 2019, 13:52 You had to question the sustainability with little caring about the us and UK markets, but I wouldn't say it failed. If there is never another fight under their banner I'll still remember the attempt and bouts fondly.
How can they not be catering for the UK market?
With another big card in Scotland and the fights available live or anytime (free) on YouTube?
There is no TV deal. No UK TV money