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The actual fight took place on August 13th 1881 which was a Saturday night and was scheduled for four rounds.

Boxrec has the venue identified as McCormick Hall (but there are at least a half dozen McCormick Halls spread across the Northeast, most being on Ivy League College campuses.).

Here is Boxrec's description of the event: http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/John_ ... mes_Dalton

This poster has Sullivan fighting on August 13th 1858 (which happened to be a Friday night) about 60 days before he was actually born, supposedly at the Boston Area, and has the fight scheduled for 20 rounds.

Plus has anyone ever heard of "Straight Rules" ?

There have always been forgeries created to rip off collectors; with the Jack the Ripper murders ripping off collectors (pun not intended) with forgeries is a cottage industry, but I was unaware that this happens with Boxing Memorabilia.

It would too easy for a collector to confirm or disprove this poster's legitimacy, so why would a forger create such an obviously bogus poster? Is there another explanation why someone would create this bogus poster?

The stadium mentioned would later (1959) be renamed "The Orange Bowl."

But here we go again, in 1955 November 10th was a Thursday night, not a Friday.

These odd/bogus posters have me thinking maybe I have slipped into an alternative universe, maybe I am in one where Bruce Lee actually becomes the Lightweight Champion and the greatest boxer of all time.

Interesting, just as you posted this info, I checked, and the dates checked out.....Sullivan was born earlier, and Valdez Marciano fight was logged in. Then when you chimed in on the "alternate universe" speculation, I checked again.

And wouldn't you know it. The fights had plum disappeared! And Sullivan's birthday was restored to what my memory says is correct.

This alt universe stuff is tricky! And so is the fact that pot is legal now in so many more states.

Coincidence?

These seem like novelty items more than anything else ..

They would look cool hanging in the mancave even if they are fake

tiny_acres wrote: ↑02 Feb 2019, 22:08 They would look cool hanging in the mancave even if they are fake

You know what, I think maybe you hit on it. If you look at the various fonts used on the Sullivan poster, it looks like the prankster may have cut and pasted from various sources just to create a cool facsimile. Too bad he didn't just do a little more homework first.

Not sure what to think about the Valdes-Marciano poster. I think that one might have been real (and still got the damn date/day wrong). Because whoever made that poster knew the correct name of the venue at the time.

Does anyone know if there was a realistic attempt to make the Marciano-Valdes fight?

BoxBuzz wrote: ↑02 Feb 2019, 20:25 Interesting, just as you posted this info, I checked, and the dates checked out.....Sullivan was born earlier, and Valdez Marciano fight was logged in. Then when you chimed in on the "alternate universe" speculation, I checked again.

And wouldn't you know it. The fights had plum disappeared! And Sullivan's birthday was restored to what my memory says is correct.

This alt universe stuff is tricky! And so is the fact that pot is legal now in so many more states.

Coincidence?

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Duran1970 wrote: ↑02 Feb 2019, 21:21 These seem like novelty items more than anything else ..

Yea!

Too bad Kalan is not still around. Remember how he use to claim that he knocked out some HW contender in an exhibition fight, in a parking lot . . . or something to that effect?

I could have created a facsimile and slipped his name in small print on the under card and kept posting it until someone noticed. Damn, I actually miss Kalan.

APerno wrote: ↑02 Feb 2019, 23:00 Too bad Kalan is not still around. Remember how he use to claim that he knocked out some HW contender in an exhibition fight, in a parking lot . . . or something to that effect?

I could have created a facsimile and slipped his name in small print on the under card and kept posting it until someone noticed. Damn, I actually miss Kalan.

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