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Heavyweight Picks:

Managers who have not yet selected Heavyweight picks
Dottier Charredo -
HomicideHenry -
Kevo -


Scoreboard:
Joe Frazier (Million Dollar Tournament Champion)
Muhammad ALi - 9 votes
Joe Louis - 9 votes
Jack Dempsey - 9 votes
Jack Johnson - 8 votes
Rocky Marciano - 5 votes
Peter Jackson - 3 votes
Gene Tunney - 2 votes

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Cruiserweight Picks:

Managers who have not yet selected Crusierweight picks
Dottier Charredo -
Kevo -


Scoreboard:
Juan Carlos Gomez - 10 votes
James Toney - 10 votes
Fabrice Tiozzo - 9 votes
Orlin Norris - 8 votes
Anaclet Wamba - 6 votes
Jaen Marc Mormeck - 6 votes
Dariusz Michalczewski - 4 votes
Vassily Jirov - 3 votes
Marco Huck - 2 votes
Carlos DeLeon - 1 vote

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Women Picks:

Managers who have not yet selected women picks
Armageto -
Dottier Charredo -
Kevo -


Scoreboard:
Lucia Rijker - 9 votes
Holly Holm - 9 votes
Cecilia Braekhus - 9 votes
Regina Halmich - 9 votes
Chrsioty Martin - 8 votes
Anne Sophie Mathis - 7 votes
Vona Ward - 1 vote
Natascha Ragosina - 1 vote
Laila Ali - 1 vote

my picks are.....

Heavyeight
1 Ali Muhammad United States Heavyweight
2 Louis Joe United States Heavyweight
3 Dempsey Jack United States Heavyweight
4 Jackson Peter Australia Heavyweight
5 Frazier Joe United States Heavyweight
6. Johnson
Cruiserweight
Gomez
Toney
Tiozzo Fabrice France Cruiserweight 1392.6
Wamba Anaclet France Cruiserweight 1374.0
Norris Orlin United States Cruiserweight 1350.8
Michalczewski Dariusz Poland Cruiserweight 1345.0

Women
Just as the software correctly dictated:
1 Rijker Lucia Netherlands JuniorWelterweight 1951.1
2 Holm Holly United States JuniorWelterweight 1658.1
3 Martin Christy United States JuniorWelterweight 1636.4
4 Braekhus Cecilia Norway Welterweight 1547.5
5 Halmich Regina Germany Flyweight 1538.1
6 Ward Vonda United States Heavyweight 1472.2


I think the computer got it right. So my pics are pretty much the current top six ratings in every category.


FYI.....Ali never ducked a fight, even if you feel he did......HOWEVER a lot of ducking of Ali took place.....

IN this case all is forgiven, I would duck that fella myself. But he should not be penalized for the fact that he was avoided.

I'm frankly insulted that Toney isn't the #1 seed over Gomez, but he'll win his bracket, and show everyone who's boss around here anyway.

I have no problems with the picks given. I'd go with Marciano instead of Peter Jackson at Heavyweight, but I'm not sure who's resume is better between Jack Johnson and Peter Jackson.

The picks of Ali, Joe Louis, Frazier and Dempsey are locks. Marciano and Johnson round out the list for me, but I could be swayed toward Peter Jackson possibly if he has a better overall resume.

James Toney, Gomez, Orlin Norris, Dariusz Michalczewski, and then just to see it one more time for the hell I say Anaclet Wamba, and Vassily Jirov need to be in this thing. But I'd have no problem with Huck or Tiozzo being in there either.

I agree with this list for the Women

Rijker
Holm
Martin
Braekus
Halmich
Mathis

Vonda Ward never had the guts to take on the much shorter Braekhus all throughout the season so she should have to sit in the stands while the true greats among the women tower over her.

Heavies: Frazier, Ali, Louis, Tunney, Dempsey, Marciano.

Cruisers: Gomez, Toney, Huck, Tiozzo, Jirov, Wamba.

Women: Rijker, Holm, Martin, Braekhus, Halmich, Ragosina.

HW

Ali
Louis
Dempsey
Jackson
Frazier
Johnson

CW

Gomez
Toney
Mormeck
Tiozzo
Wamba
Norris

so I'm going to end the season with these tournaments so we ca have a bit of closure on the year and start fresh with a new season.

vote in this thread for who you think deserves to be in the tournament for each the Heavyweights, Cruiserweights and the Women. (remember Joe Frazier is automatically entered for winning the MDT) I'll leave this up for a week or 2 before running the fights so that hopefully people make their votes,

my picks are.....

Heavyeight
Joe Frazier(auto)
Ali
Louis
Dempsey
Johnson
my last choice is either Jackson or Marciano, haven't decided yet

Cruiserweight
Gomez
Toney
Tiozzo
Huck
Mormeck
Norris

Women
Rijker
Holm
Martin
Braekus
Halmich
Mathis


I guess everyone else lost interest....oh well, I still want to do the super six, I'll tally up the votes later tonight and see who will be in the tourneys.

If Ward don't make the cut, then just screw the entire civilized world.

A tall drink of water like Vonda don't get a break? It aint right.....she's top rated, top ranked, top shelf, and like I've always said, she towers over the competition. The computer has her in the top six on merit. However....those who were jealous of her, have schemed against her. She had the best legs in the game. The longest Jab, and yes we admit that she always looked down on her opponents. Some of you may imagine that this indicates a condescending attitude in general, I can promise you she had no other choice.

Reconsider, review, re-assess, resubmit, and repent!

BoxBuzz wrote: ↑12 Feb 2019, 17:22 If Ward don't make the cut, then just screw the entire civilized world.

A tall drink of water like Vonda don't get a break? It aint right.....she's top rated, top ranked, top shelf, and like I've always said, she towers over the competition. The computer has her in the top six on merit. However....those who were jealous of her, have schemed against her. She had the best legs in the game. The longest Jab, and yes we admit that she always looked down on her opponents. Some of you may imagine that this indicates a condescending attitude in general, I can promise you she had no other choice.

Reconsider, review, re-assess, resubmit, and repent!

C'mon, she was the tallest ducker of the season. Well, maybe I'm too sharp in my critics and the girl was just to tall to hear the challenges, so she was forced to accept that bumfighting destiny. But it is what it is.

ok, so voting results are as follows

Heavyweight

Frazier (Auto)
Ali 5 votes
Louis 5 votes
Dempsey 5 votes
Johnson 4 votes
Jackson 3 votes
Marciano 2 votes
Tunney 1 vote

Cruiserweight

Gomez 5 votes
Toney 5 votes
Tiozzo 4 votes
Norris 4 votes
Wamba 4 votes
Huck 2 votes
Mormeck 2 votes
Jirov 2 votes
DM 2 votes

Women

Rijker 4 votes
Holm 4 votes
Martin 4 votes
Braekus 4 votes
Halmich 4 votes
Mathis 2 votes
Vonda 1 vote
Rags 1 vote

I'll leave voting open for another day or two in the hope of some other managers returning

Frazier
Ali
Louis
Dempsey
Johnson
Marciano

Tiozzo
Gomez
Toney
Mormeck
Michalczewski
Norris

Rijker
Holm
Martin
Braekus
Halmich
Mathis

Ali
Dempsey
Johnson
Louis
Tunney

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Gomez
Toney
Wamba
Norris
Mormeck
Tiozzo

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Holm
Halmich
Martin
Mathis
Braekhus

FWIW I think Rijker has a bye, like Frazier, after winning that 100 Grand tournament thing.

DrDuke wrote: ↑13 Feb 2019, 11:47

BoxBuzz wrote: ↑12 Feb 2019, 17:22 If Ward don't make the cut, then just screw the entire civilized world.

A tall drink of water like Vonda don't get a break? It aint right.....she's top rated, top ranked, top shelf, and like I've always said, she towers over the competition. The computer has her in the top six on merit. However....those who were jealous of her, have schemed against her. She had the best legs in the game. The longest Jab, and yes we admit that she always looked down on her opponents. Some of you may imagine that this indicates a condescending attitude in general, I can promise you she had no other choice.

Reconsider, review, re-assess, resubmit, and repent!

C'mon, she was the tallest ducker of the season. Well, maybe I'm too sharp in my critics and the girl was just to tall to hear the challenges, so she was forced to accept that bumfighting destiny. But it is what it is.

Well the computer, which has no bias, and is not fraught with jealousy or given to petty squabbles says different. The computer has no "hidden agenda". It's a travesty.

Heavyweights:

Ali
Marciano
Tunney
Johnson
Dempsey
Louis

Cruiserweights:

Toney
Mormeck
DeLeon
Gomez
Tiozzo
Jirov

Women:

Ali
Holm
Mathis
Breakhaus
Rijker
Halmich

BoxBuzz wrote: ↑14 Feb 2019, 17:43

DrDuke wrote: ↑13 Feb 2019, 11:47

BoxBuzz wrote: ↑12 Feb 2019, 17:22 If Ward don't make the cut, then just screw the entire civilized world.

A tall drink of water like Vonda don't get a break? It aint right.....she's top rated, top ranked, top shelf, and like I've always said, she towers over the competition. The computer has her in the top six on merit. However....those who were jealous of her, have schemed against her. She had the best legs in the game. The longest Jab, and yes we admit that she always looked down on her opponents. Some of you may imagine that this indicates a condescending attitude in general, I can promise you she had no other choice.

Reconsider, review, re-assess, resubmit, and repent!

C'mon, she was the tallest ducker of the season. Well, maybe I'm too sharp in my critics and the girl was just to tall to hear the challenges, so she was forced to accept that bumfighting destiny. But it is what it is.

Well the computer, which has no bias, and is not fraught with jealousy or given to petty squabbles says different. The computer has no "hidden agenda". It's a travesty.

Nah, the comp is a dumba$$.

HomicideHenry wrote: ↑15 Feb 2019, 13:32 Heavyweights:

Ali
Marciano
Tunney
Johnson
Dempsey
Louis

You can only pick five heavyweights - Frazier is already guaranteed entry.

BoxBuzz wrote: ↑12 Feb 2019, 17:22 If Ward don't make the cut, then just screw the entire civilized world.

A tall drink of water like Vonda don't get a break? It aint right.....she's top rated, top ranked, top shelf, and like I've always said, she towers over the competition. The computer has her in the top six on merit. However....those who were jealous of her, have schemed against her. She had the best legs in the game. The longest Jab, and yes we admit that she always looked down on her opponents. Some of you may imagine that this indicates a condescending attitude in general, I can promise you she had no other choice.

Reconsider, review, re-assess, resubmit, and repent!

I know you are only joking (should I say I think you're only joking?) but in case you aren't...

Because I was bored I had a quick look over all the Results pages back to wk 14. During that time Anne Sophie Mathis was able to beat the great Regina Halmich, the even greater Lucia Rijker, and also Ragosina, Nava and Vonda Ward herself twice (once without management). She just wasn't a managed fighter long enough to have officially surpassed the tall Ward before the end, who managed only to beat Amanda Serrano (and a few underwhelming unmanaged fighters) during the same time.

The truth is Vonda Ward probably isn't even worthy of the top 10, though hopefully you had some fun managing her.

nice to see some of you back, voting will officially be closed tomorrow and I'll most likely run the fights the same day and then we can start thinking about a new season.

HyacinthusTurnipseed wrote: ↑15 Feb 2019, 18:05

BoxBuzz wrote: ↑12 Feb 2019, 17:22 If Ward don't make the cut, then just screw the entire civilized world.

A tall drink of water like Vonda don't get a break? It aint right.....she's top rated, top ranked, top shelf, and like I've always said, she towers over the competition. The computer has her in the top six on merit. However....those who were jealous of her, have schemed against her. She had the best legs in the game. The longest Jab, and yes we admit that she always looked down on her opponents. Some of you may imagine that this indicates a condescending attitude in general, I can promise you she had no other choice.

Reconsider, review, re-assess, resubmit, and repent!

I know you are only joking (should I say I think you're only joking?) but in case you aren't...

Because I was bored I had a quick look over all the Results pages back to wk 14. During that time Anne Sophie Mathis was able to beat the great Regina Halmich, the even greater Lucia Rijker, and also Ragosina, Nava and Vonda Ward herself twice (once without management). She just wasn't a managed fighter long enough to have officially surpassed the tall Ward before the end, who managed only to beat Amanda Serrano (and a few underwhelming unmanaged fighters) during the same time.

The truth is Vonda Ward probably isn't even worthy of the top 10, though hopefully you had some fun managing her.

You sir, opine, whereas the COMPUTER does not opine. It assesses. Computers are very smart indeed. I suggest you surrender your opinion to the greater thought processes of a computer. A vote for Ward is a vote for the future. She is the AOC of the Sim. And she is rated #6......above all but five others, who somehow unjustly got rated ahead of her.

But when they all stand side by side, she clearly stands above every other fighter. Opinions, ore cotten candy, and cotton candy melts quickly when one salivates. However facts will stick doggedly in ones throat, for they are stubborn things.

There's a few things I would like to discuss, but I shall make my picks and tally the votes in the top post in this thread.
I have Copy n pasted Mr Fist's original post down to his 2nd post in this thread.

My picks are:

Frazier
Louis
Marciano
Dempsey
Johnson
Ali

Gomez
Toney
Mormeck
Tiozzo
Michalczewski
Norris

Rijker
Martin
Mathis
Braekus
Halmich
Holm

I am going to update the scoreboard, then do my selection...

My votes are and I think they are fairly straightforward in the main.

Frazier (straight through anyway)
Ali
Dempsey
Louis
Johnson
THE ROCK!!!! (how the hell are people not picking him, he was ducked left, right and centre)

- - - - - - -

Gomez
Toney
Tiozzo
Norris
Wamba
Mormeck

- - - - - - -

I haven't really being paying attention to the Women's scene - not as carefully as I should have been to be honest about it,

Rijker
Holm
Braekhus
Halmich
Martin
Mathis

So, it looks like Six tournaments are very nearly completed, RED guaranteed their place:

Scoreboard:
Joe Frazier (Million Dollar Tournament Champion)
Muhammad ALi - 9 votes
Joe Louis - 9 votes
Jack Dempsey - 9 votes
Jack Johnson - 8 votes
Rocky Marciano - 5 votes
Peter Jackson - 3 votes
Gene Tunney - 2 votes
(Managers who have not yet selected Heavyweight picks (Dottier Charredo - HomicideHenry - Kevo )


Scoreboard:
Juan Carlos Gomez - 10 votes
James Toney - 10 votes
Fabrice Tiozzo - 9 votes
Orlin Norris - 8 votes
Anaclet Wamba - 6 votes
Jaen Marc Mormeck - 6 votes
Dariusz Michalczewski - 4 votes
Vassily Jirov - 3 votes
Marco Huck - 2 votes
Carlos DeLeon - 1 vote
Managers who have not yet selected Crusierweight picks (Dottier Charredo - Kevo)

Scoreboard:
Lucia Rijker - 9 votes
Holly Holm - 9 votes
Cecilia Braekhus - 9 votes
Regina Halmich - 9 votes
Chrsioty Martin - 8 votes
Anne Sophie Mathis - 7 votes
Vona Ward - 1 vote
Natascha Ragosina - 1 vote
Laila Ali - 1 vote
Managers who have not yet selected women picks (Armageto - Dottier Charredo - Kevo)

ok, voting has been dragged on long enough time to start this up and close out this season.

Side note: armageto has pm'd me to pull Gomez out of his spot, so the next in line will participate instead.

I thought I did select my heavyweights

So confusing.