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Rate These Punchers: George Foreman, Carlos Zarate and Julian Jackson
Posted: 11 Feb 2019, 11:01
by elmersalsa
Who was the best puncher between the three? All great Punchers no doubt. To me, pound per pound, Julian "The Hawk" Jackson was the best puncher of my lifetime.
Re: Rate These Punchers: George Foreman, Carlos Zarate and Julian Jackson
Posted: 11 Feb 2019, 11:35
by oogiebe
Jackson was perhaps P4P hardest puncher in boxing history.
Re: Rate These Punchers: George Foreman, Carlos Zarate and Julian Jackson
Posted: 11 Feb 2019, 12:09
by Onetimeonly
No doubt it's foreman. Hearns punched harder than the other two.
Re: Rate These Punchers: George Foreman, Carlos Zarate and Julian Jackson
Posted: 11 Feb 2019, 12:17
by oogiebe
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑11 Feb 2019, 12:09
No doubt it's foreman. Hearns punched harder than the other two.
You and Tommy are like the SNL skit on "Da Bears."
Re: Rate These Punchers: George Foreman, Carlos Zarate and Julian Jackson
Posted: 11 Feb 2019, 12:50
by DrDuke
Jackson was the best puncher ever. He has knocked out cold with a single punch so many guys.
Re: Rate These Punchers: George Foreman, Carlos Zarate and Julian Jackson
Posted: 11 Feb 2019, 12:52
by oogiebe
DrDuke wrote: ↑11 Feb 2019, 12:50
Jackson was the best puncher ever. He has knocked out cold with a single punch so many guys.
Yup. Jackson was an amazing one shot Kayo artist.
You can exchange Shavers for Foreman, as I think the poster has a spread of weight classes on purpose. Shavers had one punch KO power; George was thudding and while he could put you into ga ga land with a single blow he was more of a bunch-of-punches ko artist.
Re: Rate These Punchers: George Foreman, Carlos Zarate and Julian Jackson
Posted: 11 Feb 2019, 13:19
by gilgamesh
Probably Foreman. They're all absolutely devastating punchers though.
Re: Rate These Punchers: George Foreman, Carlos Zarate and Julian Jackson
Posted: 11 Feb 2019, 13:24
by bigjack
Jackson,put more people unconscious or down for the full count than anyone.
Re: Rate These Punchers: George Foreman, Carlos Zarate and Julian Jackson
Posted: 11 Feb 2019, 13:41
by banjo
Jackson could knockout somebody with an almost nothing shot, his power was freakish.
Re: Rate These Punchers: George Foreman, Carlos Zarate and Julian Jackson
Posted: 11 Feb 2019, 13:42
by Onetimeonly
oogiebe wrote: ↑11 Feb 2019, 12:17
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑11 Feb 2019, 12:09
No doubt it's foreman. Hearns punched harder than the other two.
You and Tommy are like the SNL skit on "Da Bears."
Let me know when Julian starts icing light heavyweights.
Re: Rate These Punchers: George Foreman, Carlos Zarate and Julian Jackson
Posted: 11 Feb 2019, 13:45
by oogiebe
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑11 Feb 2019, 13:42
oogiebe wrote: ↑11 Feb 2019, 12:17
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑11 Feb 2019, 12:09
No doubt it's foreman. Hearns punched harder than the other two.
You and Tommy are like the SNL skit on "Da Bears."
Let me know when Julian starts icing light heavyweights.
As you would respond...
Re: Rate These Punchers: George Foreman, Carlos Zarate and Julian Jackson
Posted: 11 Feb 2019, 18:59
by Tony1244
I voted GF. But I don't think there's any wrong answer here.
Re: Rate These Punchers: George Foreman, Carlos Zarate and Julian Jackson
Posted: 11 Feb 2019, 21:40
by Onetimeonly
Tony1244 wrote: ↑11 Feb 2019, 18:59
I voted GF. But I don't think there's any wrong answer here.
I guess George has the benefit of always being a heavyweight. The other two diminished a bit moving up one weight class. Obviously all all-time punchers. I'd rate olivares over Carlos.
Re: Rate These Punchers: George Foreman, Carlos Zarate and Julian Jackson
Posted: 12 Feb 2019, 09:06
by Controversial
P4P I'd say Jackson. He left so many fighters unconscious and shaking on the deck with one punch, incredible puncher.
Re: Rate These Punchers: George Foreman, Carlos Zarate and Julian Jackson
Posted: 12 Feb 2019, 13:28
by elmersalsa
Julian Jackson's highlight reel of his knockouts is unreal! What a puncher!
Carlos Zarate had a greater KO win streak than Jackson and George Foreman.
Re: Rate These Punchers: George Foreman, Carlos Zarate and Julian Jackson
Posted: 12 Feb 2019, 14:46
by SenorPipino
I'm biased toward Zarate. Always a big fan of one-half of the legendary "Z Boys." (Zamora made up the other half).
Zarate was probably the best technician of the three. His boxing prowess was always overlooked because of his tremendous power.
Actually Zamora may have been a harder puncher than Zarate. But Zarate was far more skilled. He knew where to hit.
I'll take Jackson over Foreman. I just think that Jackson was a guy who could put you to sleep with one punch.
Foreman could shake you to your bones with one shot. But then he would need to club you to death to get rid of you.
Would Frazier have risen 6 times if he was getting tagged with Jackson's P4P jolts?
Re: Rate These Punchers: George Foreman, Carlos Zarate and Julian Jackson
Posted: 12 Feb 2019, 14:50
by oogiebe
SenorPipino wrote: ↑12 Feb 2019, 14:46
I'm biased toward Zarate. Always a big fan of one-half of the legendary "Z Boys." (Zamora made up the other half).
Zarate was probably the best technician of the three. His boxing prowess was always overlooked because of his tremendous power.
Actually Zamora may have been a harder puncher than Zarate. But Zarate was far more skilled. He knew where to hit.
I'll take Jackson over Foreman. I just think that Jackson was a guy who could put you to sleep with one punch.
Foreman could shake you to your bones with one shot. But then he would need to club you to death to get rid of you.
Would Frazier have risen 6 times if he was getting tagged with Jackson's P4P jolts?
I can't argue with any of that. Zamora was lightening, but Zarate was def better skilled. Jackson was all world one punch power and GF did it with multiple thudding shots for the most part.
Re: Rate These Punchers: George Foreman, Carlos Zarate and Julian Jackson
Posted: 12 Feb 2019, 14:51
by Onetimeonly
That's the thing with rating Jackson, he'd be flat on his back against a fighter like Frazier. Thomas Tate took everything he had. I was a huge hawk fan, but on message boards it's a bit over the top.
Re: Rate These Punchers: George Foreman, Carlos Zarate and Julian Jackson
Posted: 12 Feb 2019, 14:54
by bigjack
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑12 Feb 2019, 14:51
That's the thing with rating Jackson, he'd be flat on his back against a fighter like Frazier. Thomas Tate took everything he had. I was a huge hawk fan, but on message boards it's a bit over the top.
Re: Rate These Punchers: George Foreman, Carlos Zarate and Julian Jackson
Posted: 12 Feb 2019, 14:59
by oogiebe
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑12 Feb 2019, 14:51
That's the thing with rating Jackson, he'd be flat on his back against a fighter like Frazier. Thomas Tate took everything he had. I was a huge hawk fan, but on message boards it's a bit over the top.
Tate was a tough individual who was only knocked out once (RJJ). P4P Jackson was the arguably the hardest one shot kayo artist I ever saw.
Re: Rate These Punchers: George Foreman, Carlos Zarate and Julian Jackson
Posted: 12 Feb 2019, 15:00
by Onetimeonly
oogiebe wrote: ↑12 Feb 2019, 14:59
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑12 Feb 2019, 14:51
That's the thing with rating Jackson, he'd be flat on his back against a fighter like Frazier. Thomas Tate took everything he had. I was a huge hawk fan, but on message boards it's a bit over the top.
Tate was a tough individual who was only knocked out once (RJJ). P4P Jackson was the arguably the hardest one shot kayo artist I ever saw.
I know, I watched it. I disagree.
Re: Rate These Punchers: George Foreman, Carlos Zarate and Julian Jackson
Posted: 12 Feb 2019, 15:02
by oogiebe
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑12 Feb 2019, 15:00
oogiebe wrote: ↑12 Feb 2019, 14:59
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑12 Feb 2019, 14:51
That's the thing with rating Jackson, he'd be flat on his back against a fighter like Frazier. Thomas Tate took everything he had. I was a huge hawk fan, but on message boards it's a bit over the top.
Tate was a tough individual who was only knocked out once (RJJ). P4P Jackson was the arguably the hardest one shot kayo artist I ever saw.
I know, I watched it. I disagree.
Fair enough!
Re: Rate These Punchers: George Foreman, Carlos Zarate and Julian Jackson
Posted: 12 Feb 2019, 15:05
by Onetimeonly
Re: Rate These Punchers: George Foreman, Carlos Zarate and Julian Jackson
Posted: 12 Feb 2019, 15:23
by oogiebe
LOL! You love Tommy! (me too) and yes you can argue him into the mix. The OP's post was hardly all inclusive. Missing a lot of bigger P4P punchers who I'd pick. I'd take Shavers over Foreman at HW, for instance.