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Cash cow fights for AJ and Eddie before the general public get sick and stop buying the ppvs?

...seems like most ppl are getting sick already

REEVE wrote: ↑13 Feb 2019, 15:36 Cash cow fights for AJ and Eddie before the general public get sick and stop buying the ppvs?

...seems like most ppl are getting sick already

Plenty more! Other than Fury and Wilder, Whyte, Breazdale, Joyce, Hughie Fury, Pulev, Ortiz, Chisora, the big Chinaman, could all be in the mix.
That's 3 to 4 years of fights.
Remember even Lennox Lewis didn't get Holyfield and Tyson untill they were past it, Bowe never happened either.

To be fair, who is Joshua supposed to fight right now? Fury & Wilder are tied up with each other, he’s already comprehensively beaten and ktfo Povetkin & Whyte. No-one else is even close to being up there in terms of a challenge, it’s going to look crap no matter who he fights.

lol miller is an unbeaten top 10 fighter and the hometown boy. pov was top 5, parker was an unbeaten champ

you guys need to check out whose actually been getting title shots. miller even beat up 2 wbc challengers already.

aj easily has been consisently matched the best at hw

ya, so who else is there?

lol same guys who dissed wlad and pov as old would probably say 40 year old ort

I'd say there will be a few years worth at the rate of 2 a year

He’s losing fans rapidly already.

by what metric, funny how its all pretty much just the tys and wilder bois telling us that

Miller is no throw away fight. I'm happier about this than I would be about a Whyte rematch. Solid PPV headliner.

reeve my boy, who are acceptable and realistic for june, compared to miller being awful

Gnome wrote: ↑13 Feb 2019, 16:20 Miller is no throw away fight. I'm happier about this than I would be about a Whyte rematch. Solid PPV headliner.

It can be sold well, unbeaten contender, Americas #2, AJ's US debut, New York too.

jamamb wrote: ↑13 Feb 2019, 16:19 by what metric, funny how its all pretty much just the tys and wilder bois telling us that

Everyone I’ve spoken to in the boxing world or read on fb.

If people are stupid enough and willing to shell out £20 for Whyte Chisora or HaynBelliew I'd say plenty more

Coco wrote: ↑13 Feb 2019, 16:26

Gnome wrote: ↑13 Feb 2019, 16:20 Miller is no throw away fight. I'm happier about this than I would be about a Whyte rematch. Solid PPV headliner.

It can be sold well, unbeaten contender, Americas #2, AJ's US debut, New York too.

exactly , strange that some are throwing the rattle out the pram

jamamb wrote: ↑13 Feb 2019, 17:03

Coco wrote: ↑13 Feb 2019, 16:26

Gnome wrote: ↑13 Feb 2019, 16:20 Miller is no throw away fight. I'm happier about this than I would be about a Whyte rematch. Solid PPV headliner.

It can be sold well, unbeaten contender, Americas #2, AJ's US debut, New York too.

exactly , strange that some are throwing the rattle out the pram

It prob won't go 3 rounds though

that would be a reflection of how good aj is, no one else would stop miller that fast

jamamb wrote: ↑13 Feb 2019, 17:09 that would be a reflection of how good aj is, no one else would stop miller that fast

Agreed, Wilder has the power, but doesn't have the skilset to land so much
I would def have Miller in the top 10

Coco wrote: ↑13 Feb 2019, 15:42

REEVE wrote: ↑13 Feb 2019, 15:36 Cash cow fights for AJ and Eddie before the general public get sick and stop buying the ppvs?

...seems like most ppl are getting sick already

Plenty more! Other than Fury and Wilder, Whyte, Breazdale, Joyce, Hughie Fury, Pulev, Ortiz, Chisora, the big Chinaman, could all be in the mix.
That's 3 to 4 years of fights.
Remember even Lennox Lewis didn't get Holyfield and Tyson untill they were past it, Bowe never happened either.

Wasn't he world champion when they fought

You're right

jamamb wrote: ↑13 Feb 2019, 16:26 reeve my boy, who are acceptable and realistic for june, compared to miller being awful

Maybes im bring harsh mate but im just dying
To see him fight wilder or fury

People c'mon! I'm no AJ fan, but he's fighting the best available each and every fight with the only exception being Wilder (and I guess now Fury) but it's not his fault (nor Hearns) that Wilder/Fury happened and a rematch is in the works.

He sports the best HW resume by a mile. Miller is good enough to be top 5 HW or so. It's not AJ's fault that the talent level falls so far off after the top three. What else is there? Whyte II? Breazeale II? Povetkin II? (if my memory serves, he also beat Parker and picked up his belt along the way) Those are three (or 4 if you count Parker) of the current top 10 hw's in the world and he's already beaten them. Miller is next in line for sure. So AJ will have faced 5 of the top 10 HW's with two fighting each other. That leaves three (Pulev/Kownacki/Ortiz) he hasn't yet faced. That's pretty impressive.

Maybe now with Usyk in the mix (hopefully) we have another fight for AJ that will cause some excitement for now.

oogiebe wrote: ↑13 Feb 2019, 18:35 People c'mon! I'm no AJ fan, but he's fighting the best available each and every fight with the only exception being Wilder (and I guess now Fury) but it's not his fault (nor Hearns) that Wilder/Fury happened and a rematch is in the works.

He sports the best HW resume by a mile. Miller is good enough to be top 5 HW or so. It's not AJ's fault that the talent level falls so far off after the top three. What else is there? Whyte II? Breazeale II? Povetkin II? (if my memory serves, he also beat Parker and picked up his belt along the way) Those are three (or 4 if you count Parker) of the current top 10 hw's in the world and he's already beaten them. Miller is next in line for sure. So AJ will have faced 5 of the top 10 HW's with two fighting each other. That leaves three (Pulev/Kownacki/Ortiz) he hasn't yet faced. That's pretty impressive.

Maybe now with Usyk in the mix (hopefully) we have another fight for AJ that will cause some excitement for now.

Legitimate points.

Avitar wrote: ↑13 Feb 2019, 17:41

Coco wrote: ↑13 Feb 2019, 15:42

REEVE wrote: ↑13 Feb 2019, 15:36 Cash cow fights for AJ and Eddie before the general public get sick and stop buying the ppvs?

...seems like most ppl are getting sick already

Plenty more! Other than Fury and Wilder, Whyte, Breazdale, Joyce, Hughie Fury, Pulev, Ortiz, Chisora, the big Chinaman, could all be in the mix.
That's 3 to 4 years of fights.
Remember even Lennox Lewis didn't get Holyfield and Tyson untill they were past it, Bowe never happened either.

Wasn't he world champion when they fought

He was world champ but id still say he was passed his best

If he doesn't face Wilder/ Fury winner then we can have this conversation, but its not his fault the HW division is incredibly limited right now. As Fury & Wilder are tied up, other than rematches this is the best option for AJ plus gets him fighting outside the UK & increases his popularity in America.

I find this Joshua backlash astounding really.

Lets be critical of his performances if you want - yes. Unlike Mike Tyson, he seems to have found a "level" where his power isn't as big as it was - it was okay dismantling the likes of Charles Martin and Michel Sprott, but he's finding it more difficult to dismantle Klitchsko, Parker, Takam, Povetkin's level.

However, I am astonished at the backlash.... TWO fights ago, just two freaking fights ago he was fighting an undefeated fighter in a Unification - there were genuine calls for the ring belt to be on the line for it. .... and his last fight he fought a dangerous, if past his best, mandatory - who actually gave him one of his sternest tests.

I honestly think the backlash is more due to the JOSHUA'S performances as opposed to Eddie's matchmaking. I honestly think Povetkin would wipe the floor with Wilder. There was absolutely nothing wrong with Klitchsko, Takam (remembering it should have been Pulev), Parker and Povetkin..... huge case for Povetkin being better than the WBC champ anyway. ... However, Takam and Parker were dull fights and Joshua did not really impress at all vs Povetkin either.... which is much more the reason why people want to see AJ in better matches.