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jamamb wrote: ↑17 Feb 2019, 13:04 ya wilders a huge hitter. although for even him too a lot of the guys get up repeatedly or need to really be battered to be finished, or are stopped standing. i think very very few punchers, even among the best, consistently totally sent the guy down and out quickly when they landed

brilo33 wrote: ↑17 Feb 2019, 13:29 Keith Thurman ain't stopped the top of his weight

brilo33 wrote: ↑17 Feb 2019, 13:24

jamamb wrote: ↑17 Feb 2019, 13:04 ya wilders a huge hitter. although for even him too a lot of the guys get up repeatedly or need to really be battered to be finished, or are stopped standing. i think very very few punchers, even among the best, consistently totally sent the guy down and out quickly when they landed

Yea but the fighters getting up from wilder now are the top of the division

jamamb wrote: ↑17 Feb 2019, 12:20 i notice some saying ajs an overrated puncher because hes stopped some guys on there feet and has a distance fight

however , even a guy like wilder has battered an opponent with loads of shots for many rounds yet failed to drop them, and also been taken 12.


for you, who are the p4p biggest punchers around and to you what shows a genuine huge hitter rather then someone with overhyped power?

Shhhh wrote: ↑19 Feb 2019, 12:26 Tommy Morrison for one

@matt___s wrote: ↑19 Feb 2019, 02:26 I've always thought of it as a difference between a 'puncher' and a 'finisher'. Thats not to say that there arent examples that run contrary to all this, or that blur the lines, of course.

I think to be successful at any level people have to respect your power, if people feel that there is no possibility of you hurting them, we've all seen fights like that, where people can't keep the other guy from doing what he wants, because there's no price to pay.,

Power above and beyond that level - I usually say a puncher is someone who can take you out with one hit. That highlight reel, Marquez vs Pacman type shot. A finisher is someone who might not have the power for a one-shot KO but is expert at delivering the finishing flurry, which isn't as straightforward as it sounds, again, we've all seen fights where a stricken fighter is clinging on, or just about manages to bob and weave out of trouble. Finishers don't let you do that.

I think that when people talk about accumulation stoppages a lot of people seem to be thinking that it's in that one flurry, or section of the round, that the accumulation has occurred. Its more usually the result of consistency over the course of the fight that has depleted the other fighters resistance.

dalcumly wrote: ↑19 Feb 2019, 15:20 I don't believe in modern boxing there have been many one punch, natural knockout punchers. I mean someone who may be getting beat but at any time can knock you out with one punch.
In my lifetime the best of this kind was Julian Jackson. Hamed was close.
Currently Wilder comes near, if Fury hadn't gotten up, I'd have to concede he's there.
I have to think the modern gloves might have something to do with it, or perhaps the lack of hard manual labour might be a possibility.
I personally think the Julian Jacksons and Ingemar Johanssons of this world were born to punch like mules. Both these men just seemed to land without really trying, and at times seemed very awkward.