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Surprise! Charr vs Oquendo cancelled (again)
Posted: 18 Feb 2019, 11:24
by oogiebe
ESPN:
The fight between secondary heavyweight world titlist Manuel Charr and mandatory challenger Fres Oquendo, already long overdue, has been canceled.
The fight was on at least its third date -- April 6 in Munich -- but was canceled when Oquendo failed to sign the contract by Friday's deadline, Patrick English, the attorney for Charr promoter Global Sports Management, told ESPN on Sunday.
Gee what a surprise! Who cares anyway?
Full Article:
http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/2 ... t-unsigned
Re: Surprise! Charr vs Oquendo cancelled (again)
Posted: 18 Feb 2019, 12:28
by ValMar
oogiebe wrote: ↑18 Feb 2019, 11:24
ESPN:
The fight between secondary heavyweight world titlist Manuel Charr and mandatory challenger Fres Oquendo, already long overdue, has been canceled.
The fight was on at least its third date -- April 6 in Munich -- but was canceled when Oquendo failed to sign the contract by Friday's deadline, Patrick English, the attorney for Charr promoter Global Sports Management, told ESPN on Sunday.
Gee what a surprise! Who cares anyway?
Full Article:
http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/2 ... t-unsigned
This is a pointless fight, absolutely.
Re: Surprise! Charr vs Oquendo cancelled (again)
Posted: 18 Feb 2019, 12:31
by Lackeos
DrDuke wrote: ↑22 Jan 2019, 11:22
Oquendo won't fight for that. Because of the any reason possible. The fight will be cancelled. But then it will be scheduled again. After everything, that occurred, this seems to be the only possible unending way.
Lackeos wrote: ↑01 Feb 2019, 12:33
Can't wait to find out why this one is going to fall through. But it is.
Tony1244 wrote: ↑24 Jan 2019, 17:21
In the year 2085 Fres Oquendo will still be signing and then having WBA fights cancelled.
Good matchups if they happen. Regardless of who orders it.
tiny_acres wrote: ↑01 Feb 2019, 10:09
joshj909 wrote: ↑01 Feb 2019, 06:36
Charr v Oquendo has been re-scheduled for 23rd of March. Hope the bookies allow bets on whether or not this fight happens.
I'd bet it doesn't either
Re: Surprise! Charr vs Oquendo cancelled (again)
Posted: 18 Feb 2019, 12:39
by SenorPipino
This is all so pathetic.
Charr should be stripped of his precious belt and Oquendo should simply be banned from the sport altogether so we don't have to go through this endless crap ad nauseum.
Re: Surprise! Charr vs Oquendo cancelled (again)
Posted: 18 Feb 2019, 12:41
by oogiebe
The good news is that it should result in Charr vs Bryan, so we skip the pathetic 40+ year-old-hasn't-been-in-the-ring-in-5 years-Oquendo.
Re: Surprise! Charr vs Oquendo cancelled (again)
Posted: 18 Feb 2019, 13:28
by tiny_acres
What would make Oquendo go through early 5 years of waiting and then turning down the fight?
I thought the WBA was insane but Oquendo may possibly be just as crazy.
What a waste of time
Re: Surprise! Charr vs Oquendo cancelled (again)
Posted: 18 Feb 2019, 13:28
by Eolaithe
"...the WBA says it believes it is obliged to give him a title opportunity based on the outcome of a federal lawsuit from several years ago.
However, now that Oquendo has passed on the fight, it would seem as though that obligation is over..."
Hallelujah!

Re: Surprise! Charr vs Oquendo cancelled (again)
Posted: 18 Feb 2019, 15:13
by chuck9788
Eolaithe wrote: ↑18 Feb 2019, 13:28
"...the WBA says it believes it is obliged to give him a title opportunity based on the outcome of a federal lawsuit from several years ago.
However, now that Oquendo has passed on the fight, it would seem as though that obligation is over..."
Hallelujah!
Don't get too excited. We all know that whenever we're talking about the WBA heavyweight belt and Oquendo that NOTHING is ever what it seems. I wouldn't be surprised if this went back to court.
Re: Surprise! Charr vs Oquendo cancelled (again)
Posted: 18 Feb 2019, 15:31
by KiwiRider
tiny_acres wrote: ↑18 Feb 2019, 13:28
What would make Oquendo go through early 5 years of waiting and then turning down the fight?
I thought the WBA was insane but Oquendo may possibly be just as crazy.
What a waste of time
Maybe he was hoping for "step aside" money, which at his age, is probably the safest way to earn a crust.
Re: Surprise! Charr vs Oquendo cancelled (again)
Posted: 18 Feb 2019, 16:01
by gilgamesh
No f*cking clue why he wouldn't have signed the contract. I can't even see him beating Charr honestly, but Charr was the best chance he was ever gonna have at picking up any sorta belt.
Re: Surprise! Charr vs Oquendo cancelled (again)
Posted: 18 Feb 2019, 16:03
by tiny_acres
chuck9788 wrote: ↑18 Feb 2019, 15:13
Eolaithe wrote: ↑18 Feb 2019, 13:28
"...the WBA says it believes it is obliged to give him a title opportunity based on the outcome of a federal lawsuit from several years ago.
However, now that Oquendo has passed on the fight, it would seem as though that obligation is over..."
Hallelujah!
Don't get too excited. We all know that whenever we're talking about the WBA heavyweight belt and Oquendo that NOTHING is ever what it seems. I wouldn't be surprised if this went back to court.
I'm far from a lawyer but I think Oquendo screwed himself.
He might get some money from the WBA to go away. But I think he'll be dropped from the ratings in the next 30 to 60 days
Re: Surprise! Charr vs Oquendo cancelled (again)
Posted: 18 Feb 2019, 16:09
by jamamb
fuk fres oquendo, hes been the reason for the cancellations for a while now, i dont know what game hes playing
Re: Surprise! Charr vs Oquendo cancelled (again)
Posted: 19 Feb 2019, 04:05
by joshj909
I don't know whether to laugh or cry, or rip my hair out knowing i could've made some money betting on this happening
I would agree with WBA's stance though, his behaviour is not that of one who wants to fulfil the legal obligations and i think a court would probably agree.
Charr v Bryan to unify the regular title and then AJ to beat the winner as a warm-up the same night he fights Miller?

Re: Surprise! Charr vs Oquendo cancelled (again)
Posted: 21 Feb 2019, 20:37
by oogiebe
So now Joyce/Stiverne is an "Eliminator" to face Charr. Sanctioning fees must be behind budget numbers.
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Re: Surprise! Charr vs Oquendo cancelled (again)
Posted: 22 Feb 2019, 01:07
by tiny_acres
oogiebe wrote: ↑21 Feb 2019, 20:37
So now Joyce/Stiverne is an "Eliminator" to face Charr. Sanctioning fees must be behind budget numbers.
What a joke. Charr should be made to face Bryan
Re: Surprise! Charr vs Oquendo cancelled (again)
Posted: 22 Feb 2019, 03:00
by candyslim
Charr v Bryan would be an interesting fight. Interesting in that it could go either way. Bring it on.
Re: Surprise! Charr vs Oquendo cancelled (again)
Posted: 22 Feb 2019, 08:49
by Onetimeonly
candyslim wrote: ↑22 Feb 2019, 03:00
Charr v Bryan would be an interesting fight. Interesting in that it could go either way. Bring it on.
I was wondering where you were. Did you see how wilder forced fury to sign with arum?
Re: Surprise! Charr vs Oquendo cancelled (again)
Posted: 22 Feb 2019, 09:36
by tiny_acres
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑22 Feb 2019, 08:49
candyslim wrote: ↑22 Feb 2019, 03:00
Charr v Bryan would be an interesting fight. Interesting in that it could go either way. Bring it on.
I was wondering where you were. Did you see how wilder forced fury to sign with arum?

Damn Wilder he controls the world

Re: Surprise! Charr vs Oquendo cancelled (again)
Posted: 22 Feb 2019, 10:32
by Tony1244
I used to feel sorry for Fres because he lost some close decisions and fighters kept failing drug tests who were scheduled to fight him.
But after he refused to fight Miller and stopped signing contracts, its time to move on. You'd think he could have stayed active these last 4 years if he wanted to.
Re: Surprise! Charr vs Oquendo cancelled (again)
Posted: 22 Feb 2019, 10:39
by SenorPipino
Went through all the trouble of waging a legal battle to get a crack at the coveted regular championship, but seems disinterested in actually fighting for it.
Re: Surprise! Charr vs Oquendo cancelled (again)
Posted: 22 Feb 2019, 11:51
by Gnome
Tony1244 wrote: ↑22 Feb 2019, 10:32
I used to feel sorry for Fres because he lost some close decisions and fighters kept failing drug tests who were scheduled to fight him.
But after he refused to fight Miller and stopped signing contracts, its time to move on. You'd think he could have stayed active these last 4 years if he wanted to.
My feelings too.
Re: Surprise! Charr vs Oquendo cancelled (again)
Posted: 22 Feb 2019, 12:21
by Eolaithe
I don't want to see Oquendo fight ever again, especially not for a title eliminator or a engage in a secondary title fight.
That being said, it's too early to judge Fres' reasons for not signing the contract for the Charr fight, since none of us know if the terms he was supposed to agree to were reasonable or not.
Re: Surprise! Charr vs Oquendo cancelled (again)
Posted: 22 Feb 2019, 12:23
by oogiebe
Eolaithe wrote: ↑22 Feb 2019, 12:21
I don't want to see Oquendo fight ever again, especially not for a title eliminator or a engage in a secondary title fight.
That being said, it's too early to judge Fres' reasons for not signing the contract for the Charr fight, since none of us know if the terms he was supposed to agree to were reasonable or not.
Who cares. The guy hasn't fought in like 5 years and is like 45 y/o.
Re: Surprise! Charr vs Oquendo cancelled (again)
Posted: 22 Feb 2019, 12:24
by Eolaithe
oogiebe wrote: ↑22 Feb 2019, 12:23
Eolaithe wrote: ↑22 Feb 2019, 12:21
I don't want to see Oquendo fight ever again, especially not for a title eliminator or a engage in a secondary title fight.
That being said, it's too early to judge Fres' reasons for not signing the contract for the Charr fight, since none of us know if the terms he was supposed to agree to were reasonable or not.
Who cares. The guy hasn't fought in like 5 years and is like 45 y/o.
I don't want to see Oquendo fight ever again, especially not for a title eliminator or a engage in a secondary title fight.
Re: Surprise! Charr vs Oquendo cancelled (again)
Posted: 22 Feb 2019, 13:35
by Tony1244
Eolaithe wrote: ↑22 Feb 2019, 12:24
oogiebe wrote: ↑22 Feb 2019, 12:23
Eolaithe wrote: ↑22 Feb 2019, 12:21
I don't want to see Oquendo fight ever again, especially not for a title eliminator or a engage in a secondary title fight.
That being said, it's too early to judge Fres' reasons for not signing the contract for the Charr fight, since none of us know if the terms he was supposed to agree to were reasonable or not.
Who cares. The guy hasn't fought in like 5 years and is like 45 y/o.
I don't want to see Oquendo fight ever again, especially not for a title eliminator or a engage in a secondary title fight.
Considering he hasn't fought in what, 4 1/2 years, you are doing very well with your wish.