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Fury - Wilder - Joshua, who has what?
Posted: 20 Feb 2019, 05:01
by leejonesjnr
How do they stack up Top Trumps style?
My thoughts below, copy and paste with your own ranking, brief explanations if you feel necessary.
Boxing Skill
1 - Joshua
2 - Fury (mainly arm punching which is why I place Joshua above)
3 - Wilder
Power
1 - Wilder
2 - Joshua
3 - Fury
Strength
1 - Joshua
2 - Fury & Wilder
Stamina/Fitness
Toughest to rate.
1 - Wilder (wild style burns energy but he still has power late)
2 - Fury & Joshua (bizarre to rank equally at first glance but Joshua, whilst criticised has a visible ‘second wind’, Fury is conservative with the energy expended so whilst I’d imagine wildly behind on any measurable fitness tests, his boxing fitness is higher than would first appear)
Who do you like as a person?
Obviously they are all ridiculous, but...
1 - Wilder (bit of a fool but how he got into boxing is sweet and his faux pas generally seem to be misjudged publicity attempts)
2 - Joshua (don’t like the artifice, stay humble etc but nothing too upsetting, don’t like the drugs thing)
3 - Fury (don’t like homophobia, don’t like childish screaming and shouting, don’t like recreational or performance enhancing drug use)
Re: Fury - Wilder - Joshua, who has what?
Posted: 20 Feb 2019, 13:50
by jamamb
good post, ones i differ on are that id rate fury top for skill (then aj 2), i know hes unorthodox but imo fury defo has the most tricks up his sleeve and by far the best lateral movement
i like aj the most, big hitting ko man plus been moved very ambitiously and i dont mind the personality. wilder has a very fun style himself and fury is awful to watch for me but the funniest outside the ring.
Re: Fury - Wilder - Joshua, who has what?
Posted: 20 Feb 2019, 17:18
by SAPFO
'I think your opinion is clouded by the fact you don't seem to like Fury.
Skill - Fury is the better boxer of the 3.
Stamina - Fury has the best stamina. Wilder lasts, but his output us lower than Fury so I favour Fury.
Power - I think Wilder inns this. He will KO you even if you see it coming, whereas AJ is a one that hurts you when you don't see it coming or via accumulation.
Saying the above, I think AJ is the most rounded of the 3. He has more skill than Wilder, and more power than Fury, but lags behind both on stamina.
It really is rock/paper/scissors in my opinion. All 3 are capable of beating each other.
Re: Fury - Wilder - Joshua, who has what?
Posted: 20 Feb 2019, 18:07
by Boxerbeetle
For me, Wilder is way behind both on everything except power,
Re: Fury - Wilder - Joshua, who has what?
Posted: 21 Feb 2019, 12:57
by DrDuke
Wilder has only power.
Joshua has polished fundamentals and power.
Fury has skills, footwork and IQ.
The Gypsy King is the best out of them.
Re: Fury - Wilder - Joshua, who has what?
Posted: 21 Feb 2019, 13:07
by jamamb
i defo think wilders stamina is not behind, though i was surprised by how tired he looked vs fury much of the time, it was at moments like he struggled to hold his arms up
he at least keeps his power late though
Re: Fury - Wilder - Joshua, who has what?
Posted: 21 Feb 2019, 15:32
by KiwiRider
jamamb wrote: ↑21 Feb 2019, 13:07
i defo think wilders stamina is not behind, though i was surprised by how tired he looked vs fury much of the time, it was at moments like he struggled to hold his arms up
he at least keeps his power late though
It was being made to miss that knackered Wilder. That was the first time I've seen him gassed though. The fact he came back from being out on his feet against Ortiz shows his stamina is pretty decent IMO.
Re: Fury - Wilder - Joshua, who has what?
Posted: 21 Feb 2019, 18:33
by Jackson328
Skill . . . . . has to be Fury, unorthodox and almost clumsy as he may seem at times he is a natural boxer. AJ is underrated I believe in skill but Wilder is simply awful at the noble art
Power . . . . . Wilder's only asset in my opinion. AJ is not too far behind and is a good heavy handed finisher. Fury isn't exactly feather fisted but doesn't come near either for sheer power
Strength . . . . Joshua all the way but Fury has never been bullied by anyone at top level and I'm not sure Wilder with his height ever gets out-muscled too much either but for sheer brute power AJ is King for me.
Stamina . . . . . Really interesting one with heavyweights this one as it is the ultimate equaliser in my opinion. I think Fury can pace a fight better than the other two based on his world title fights so far vs Wlad and Wilder, I think this could also be AJ's achilles heel except no-one has had the chance to properly expose it yet and he has the much better resume than the other two at world level.
Persona . . . . Who would I go for a pint with? Gotta be Tyson innit
