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Boxing Squared reports that Wilder, during a 40 minute interview, says he wants AJ before Fury. Says Fury needs to be carefully matched on ESPN in order to look good. Says that Fury is boring and "I took something out of him."

Looking to get his mandatory out of the way, then he wants Joshua.

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Wilder understands he was pretty lucky overall to steal a draw against a still somewhat rusty Fury, and he also understands that Fury will likely win the rematch. Joshua presents different problems, but also much more money. Joshua is also a more winnable fight for Wilder, so no surprise here.

i believe him, i think hes all for fighting josh and that he thinks hell ko josh, though i see aj beating him and fury

i dont think he really deluded himself into thinking that furys the acctual top man to fight or anything. ajs where its really at.

punchoutsb wrote: ↑02 Mar 2019, 14:27 Wilder understands he was pretty lucky overall to steal a draw against a still somewhat rusty Fury, and he also understands that Fury will likely win the rematch. Joshua presents different problems, but also much more money. Joshua is also a more winnable fight for Wilder, so no surprise here.

I found it ironic that Wilder makes this statement after all the talk of a Fury rematch and how much that was his priority. On the other side of this, I think Fury made a mistake. There's no guarantee that he can sustain his more disciplined and effective training regimen. He can go off the rails at any moment, IMO.

..makes sense, it's all about unifying the belts and selling them later to the highest bidder..

oogiebe wrote: ↑02 Mar 2019, 14:36

punchoutsb wrote: ↑02 Mar 2019, 14:27 Wilder understands he was pretty lucky overall to steal a draw against a still somewhat rusty Fury, and he also understands that Fury will likely win the rematch. Joshua presents different problems, but also much more money. Joshua is also a more winnable fight for Wilder, so no surprise here.

I found it ironic that Wilder makes this statement after all the talk of a Fury rematch and how much that was his priority. On the other side of this, I think Fury made a mistake. There's no guarantee that he can sustain his more disciplined and effective training regimen. He can go off the rails at any moment, IMO.

I hope Fury is a changed man, if so he will be fine.

The thing is, Wilder never brings any new wrinkles. He's a very powerful guy who windmills his shots and carries his power late. He's not out-boxing Fury, and Fury has already shown he can take Wilder's shots...to a point. At this point it makes far more sense for DW to go after AJ and his somewhat suspect stamina than to rematch a more in-shape and less rusty version of the man who just *almost* (and should have) beat him.

greg wrote: ↑02 Mar 2019, 15:00 ..makes sense, it's all about unifying the belts and selling them later to the highest bidder..

It makes a lot of sense because we, in fact everyone, wants Joshua v Wilder too.

Meanwhile Fury's backers can buy time on how best to recoup their huge investment by protecting the 'exciting' Tyson Fury as much as possible.

In between moments of self doubt and possible heart attacks of course. Well, it all looked so good on paper...

Thomastearns wrote: ↑02 Mar 2019, 16:38

greg wrote: ↑02 Mar 2019, 15:00 ..makes sense, it's all about unifying the belts and selling them later to the highest bidder..

It makes a lot of sense because we, in fact everyone, wants Joshua v Wilder too.

Meanwhile Fury's backers can buy time on how best to recoup their huge investment by protecting the 'exciting' Tyson Fury as much as possible.

In between moments of self doubt and possible heart attacks of course. Well, it all looked so good on paper...

I really feel the same way. Fury isn't a compelling watch if he's not fighting AJ or Wilder. Probably won't ever be. I still think the real danger in this deal is Fury falling back into old habits. He should've struck while the iron was hot (Wilder rematch).

That's the problem. It was never hot enough for Arum.

Around 325,000 PPV buys demonstrates that interest is minimal. And a rematch historically draws even less attention.

How are promoters going to pay the fighters huge purses and also turn a profit if few are buying what they're selling?

Thomastearns wrote: ↑02 Mar 2019, 16:38

greg wrote: ↑02 Mar 2019, 15:00 ..makes sense, it's all about unifying the belts and selling them later to the highest bidder..

It makes a lot of sense because we, in fact everyone, wants Joshua v Wilder too.

Meanwhile Fury's backers can buy time on how best to recoup their huge investment by protecting the 'exciting' Tyson Fury as much as possible.

In between moments of self doubt and possible heart attacks of course. Well, it all looked so good on paper...

Joshua and Wilder for second best heavyweight is a fun fight everyone wants. Meanwhile Fury will continue to be overlooked despite likely being the best in the division.

Well I wanted to see Joshua vs Fury but was told that was unfeasible. Either way Anthony should be involved in the equation.

so 'on the outside looking in!!' didnt really last for long did it

Anthony Joshua isn't the lineal champion but he is the man to beat in the division.

There is no lineal champion.

jamamb wrote: ↑02 Mar 2019, 20:01 so 'on the outside looking in!!' didnt really last for long did it

No, no it didn't...

Thomastearns wrote: ↑02 Mar 2019, 16:38

greg wrote: ↑02 Mar 2019, 15:00 ..makes sense, it's all about unifying the belts and selling them later to the highest bidder..

It makes a lot of sense because we, in fact everyone, wants Joshua v Wilder too.

Meanwhile Fury's backers can buy time on how best to recoup their huge investment by protecting the 'exciting' Tyson Fury as much as possible.

Interesting point and I agree. Arum/ESPN will most likely steer Fury away from Joshua or Wilder to protect their investment with low-risk opponents like Joseph Parker, Breazeale, Pulev, Rivas, Povetkin and maybe Ortiz. So in that sense Wilder is correct that Fury will be carefully matched. But Wilder is flattering himself when he says he "took something out of Fury".

punchoutsb wrote: ↑02 Mar 2019, 15:14

oogiebe wrote: ↑02 Mar 2019, 14:36

punchoutsb wrote: ↑02 Mar 2019, 14:27 Wilder understands he was pretty lucky overall to steal a draw against a still somewhat rusty Fury, and he also understands that Fury will likely win the rematch. Joshua presents different problems, but also much more money. Joshua is also a more winnable fight for Wilder, so no surprise here.

I found it ironic that Wilder makes this statement after all the talk of a Fury rematch and how much that was his priority. On the other side of this, I think Fury made a mistake. There's no guarantee that he can sustain his more disciplined and effective training regimen. He can go off the rails at any moment, IMO.

I hope Fury is a changed man, if so he will be fine.

The thing is, Wilder never brings any new wrinkles. He's a very powerful guy who windmills his shots and carries his power late. He's not out-boxing Fury, and Fury has already shown he can take Wilder's shots...to a point. At this point it makes far more sense for DW to go after AJ and his somewhat suspect stamina than to rematch a more in-shape and less rusty version of the man who just *almost* (and should have) beat him.

I agree, except for the decision being bad, but as poor technically as wilder is his right hand did appear compromised in that fight.

The Asleep Lamps wrote: ↑02 Mar 2019, 20:04 Anthony Joshua isn't the lineal champion but he is the man to beat in the division.

Lineal is outdated and meaningless, but I would consider Joshua the lineal champ. Fury announced his retirement and Josh fought the next guy in line.

AJ is gonna start quacking. He wants nothing to do with Wilder.

getnada wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 11:08

tigermoth87 wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 09:53 AJ is gonna start quacking. He wants nothing to do with Wilder.

Why would AJ even bother? AJ only wants to face the best boxers out there that dare to stand up against him.
Wilder simply isn't such a guy, he's a hypejob, he's a scam and everybody that knows boxing knows that.

A scam? Now I know you are merely trying to be outrageous and controversial.

getnada wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 11:24

oogiebe wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 11:09

getnada wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 11:08

tigermoth87 wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 09:53 AJ is gonna start quacking. He wants nothing to do with Wilder.

Why would AJ even bother? AJ only wants to face the best boxers out there that dare to stand up against him.
Wilder simply isn't such a guy, he's a hypejob, he's a scam and everybody that knows boxing knows that.

A scam? Now I know you are merely trying to be outrageous and controversial.

What do you mean? You can easely see back in the history of the WBC that Wilder should have never became the champion and neither should he have stayed it after he achieved it. He has never even been the best guy listed by the WBC, he hasn't even close near defended against mandatories enough to keep his belt. It's clearly a hypejob, it's clearly a scam. He's only fighting junkies, fatheads and grandpa's and still allmost fails many many times. It's a big laugh for anyone that knows boxing.

Stop!! You're killing me!

tigermoth87 wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 09:53 AJ is gonna start quacking. He wants nothing to do with Wilder.

Joshua is getting US$ 32m for fighting Miller. I don't know what Wilder earned against Fury but he generally makes about US$ 1.5m to US$ 2.5m.

Mr "Ain't about the money" has already been offered 40% but has repeatedly said "They know what we want" i.e. 50/50 or no fight. He's accused Joshua of being a coward who doesn't want the fight, yet in the next breath sniggers with his interviewer about how Joshua is begging him for a fight. Cowardly ducker begging him for a fight? Can anyone explain how that makes any kind of sense?

I welcome the fact that Wilder claims he wants to fight Joshua but forgive me if I'm not getting too excited. Wilder says a lot of things.

Almost everything we hear from the highest ranked heavies about these potential fights are rumors. Isn't this sport prizefighting? What ever happened to the winner taking the larger prize?

oogiebe wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 11:09

getnada wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 11:08

tigermoth87 wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 09:53 AJ is gonna start quacking. He wants nothing to do with Wilder.

Why would AJ even bother? AJ only wants to face the best boxers out there that dare to stand up against him.
Wilder simply isn't such a guy, he's a hypejob, he's a scam and everybody that knows boxing knows that.

A scam? Now I know you are merely trying to be outrageous and controversial.

He's a troll. You don't remember assjtjaj?

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 12:22

oogiebe wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 11:09

getnada wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 11:08

tigermoth87 wrote: ↑03 Mar 2019, 09:53 AJ is gonna start quacking. He wants nothing to do with Wilder.

Why would AJ even bother? AJ only wants to face the best boxers out there that dare to stand up against him.
Wilder simply isn't such a guy, he's a hypejob, he's a scam and everybody that knows boxing knows that.

A scam? Now I know you are merely trying to be outrageous and controversial.

He's a troll. You don't remember assjtjaj?

I don't. But thanks.