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Best jab by weight class

Posted: 02 Apr 2019, 22:17
by Jasonkinsley
I’ll start it out with heavy and offer Larry Holmes.

Re: Best jab by weight class

Posted: 03 Apr 2019, 04:06
by dalcumly
Sonny Liston and Henry Cooper

Re: Best jab by weight class

Posted: 03 Apr 2019, 04:41
by JC
Totally off the top of the head, first names that come to mind:

HW – Holmes
LHW – Foster
SMW – Kessler
MW – Monzon
WW – Hearns
LW – Buchanan
FW – Arguello

Re: Best jab by weight class

Posted: 03 Apr 2019, 12:04
by elmersalsa
J-C wrote: 03 Apr 2019, 04:41 Totally off the top of the head, first names that come to mind:

HW – Holmes
LHW – Foster
SMW – Kessler
MW – Monzon
WW – Hearns
LW – Buchanan
FW – Arguello
Ken Buchanan had that jab, man! He was Awesome! :TU:

Re: Best jab by weight class

Posted: 03 Apr 2019, 12:21
by oogiebe
Sweet Pea had a massively effective jab, and from southpaw stance it made it even more effective.

Re: Best jab by weight class

Posted: 03 Apr 2019, 14:39
by Caractacus
in his autobiography, Angelo Dundee compared Sugar Ray Leonard's jab to Sonny Liston's. !
Angelo Dundee even advises'not to laugh" when he writes it down in the book).

Re: Best jab by weight class

Posted: 05 Apr 2019, 08:07
by Abradolf Lincler
HW: Larry Holmes
LHW: Harold Johnson
MW: Sumbu Kalambay
WW: Thomas Hearns
LW: Pernell Whitaker
FW: Howard Winstone
BW: Lionel Rose
FlyW: Masao Ohba

Re: Best jab by weight class

Posted: 05 Apr 2019, 11:08
by Ambling Alp II
Almost impossible to pick just one for an individual weight class.

HW - Louis, Ali, Holmes.
LHW - Tunney, Loughran, Conn, Johnson, Foster
MW - Robinson, Monzon, Hagler
WW - Robinson, Napoles, Leonard, Hearns
LW - Gans, Leonard, Williams, Whitaker
Little Dudes - Pep, Sanchez, Harada

Re: Best jab by weight class

Posted: 05 Apr 2019, 15:05
by orbtastic
I always liked Lopez' jab down at Straw.

Re: Best jab by weight class

Posted: 05 Apr 2019, 16:33
by oogiebe
Ambling Alp II wrote: 05 Apr 2019, 11:08 Almost impossible to pick just one for an individual weight class.

HW - Louis, Ali, Holmes.
LHW - Tunney, Loughran, Conn, Johnson, Foster
MW - Robinson, Monzon, Hagler
WW - Robinson, Napoles, Leonard, Hearns
LW - Gans, Leonard, Williams, Whitaker
Little Dudes - Pep, Sanchez, Harada
It is impossible. So many TYPES of jabs, not only so many fighters with good jabs.

Re: Best jab by weight class

Posted: 05 Apr 2019, 20:19
by Jasonkinsley
I agree with the different types problem. Hearns jab was great, but more it was more of a ruse to disguise his straight right than a a classic, stinging jab.

Re: Best jab by weight class

Posted: 06 Apr 2019, 06:37
by dalcumly
In my humble opinion the jab is THE most important punch in the book. Everything should come from the jab.
What makes a great jab?
It lands smack on the button every time - it's has a REAL effect ( meaning get out the way!) - and it lands about 6 inches through the back of the opponents head!
Sonny Liston !

Re: Best jab by weight class

Posted: 06 Apr 2019, 19:59
by oogiebe
Overall favorite jabs regardless of weight class:

1-Holmes
2-Leonard
3-Foreman
4-Ali
5-Liston
6-Pernell Whitaker
7-Oscar Del La Hoya
8-Salvador Sanchez
9-Mark Breland
10-Ike Quartay
11-Tommy Hearns

Re: Best jab by weight class

Posted: 07 Apr 2019, 00:16
by Abradolf Lincler
Jasonkinsley wrote: 05 Apr 2019, 20:19 I agree with the different types problem. Hearns jab was great, but more it was more of a ruse to disguise his straight right than a a classic, stinging jab.
No. It COULD be used that way. It could also snap the opponent's head back at will, and he could use it to out-fence pretty much everyone. From Welterweight all the way up to Lt. Heavyweight.

Re: Best jab by weight class

Posted: 09 Apr 2019, 17:04
by Nile4000
Ambling Alp II wrote: 05 Apr 2019, 11:08 Almost impossible to pick just one for an individual weight class.

HW - Louis, Ali, Holmes.
LHW - Tunney, Loughran, Conn, Johnson, Foster
MW - Robinson, Monzon, Hagler
WW - Robinson, Napoles, Leonard, Hearns
LW - Gans, Leonard, Williams, Whitaker
Little Dudes - Pep, Sanchez, Harada
Would put Donald Curry in there, as well as Michael Spinks.

Re: Best jab by weight class

Posted: 10 Apr 2019, 04:25
by Counter-puncher
Abradolf Lincler wrote: 07 Apr 2019, 00:16 No. It COULD be used that way. It could also snap the opponent's head back at will, and he could use it to out-fence pretty much everyone. From Welterweight all the way up to Lt. Heavyweight.
:TU: ask 175lb Virgil Hill what he thought of Hearns' jab, after getting his face smashed in by it

Re: Best jab by weight class

Posted: 10 Apr 2019, 04:26
by Counter-puncher
Nile4000 wrote: 09 Apr 2019, 17:04 Would put Donald Curry in there, as well as Michael Spinks.
McCallum said it was the best jab he'd faced 'he was a baaaad man with that jab'

Re: Best jab by weight class

Posted: 10 Apr 2019, 05:02
by Syntax Error
Underrated jabbers:-

Carl Williams
Bruce Seldon
Pinklon Thomas
John Conteh
Frank Bruno

Re: Best jab by weight class

Posted: 10 Apr 2019, 15:38
by Nile4000
Counter-puncher wrote: 10 Apr 2019, 04:26 McCallum said it was the best jab he'd faced 'he was a baaaad man with that jab'
Shame Donald didn't fight Mike when he was at his best. But he did the best he could, at that point in time, and almost pulled it off.

Re: Best jab by weight class

Posted: 10 Apr 2019, 16:45
by Counter-puncher
Nile4000 wrote: 10 Apr 2019, 15:38 Shame Donald didn't fight Mike when he was at his best. But he did the best he could, at that point in time, and almost pulled it off.
It's a big stretch from going 5 rounds to nearly pulling it off

Re: Best jab by weight class

Posted: 10 Apr 2019, 16:52
by oogiebe
Counter-puncher wrote: 10 Apr 2019, 16:45 It's a big stretch from going 5 rounds to nearly pulling it off
Curry at this best couldn't beat McCallum.

Re: Best jab by weight class

Posted: 10 Apr 2019, 17:03
by Nile4000
Counter-puncher wrote: 10 Apr 2019, 16:45 It's a big stretch from going 5 rounds to nearly pulling it off
You're right, maybe I was overstating it a bit, but I feel Donald could beat Mike under the right circumstances, i.e no Ray Leonard.

Re: Best jab by weight class

Posted: 10 Apr 2019, 17:04
by Nile4000
oogiebe wrote: 10 Apr 2019, 16:52 Curry at this best couldn't beat McCallum.
:stop: That's debatable.

Re: Best jab by weight class

Posted: 10 Apr 2019, 17:20
by oogiebe
Nile4000 wrote: 10 Apr 2019, 17:04 :stop: That's debatable.
Not to me. Curry was good, but McCallum was great.

Re: Best jab by weight class

Posted: 10 Apr 2019, 17:49
by Nile4000
oogiebe wrote: 10 Apr 2019, 17:20 Not to me. Curry was good, but McCallum was great.
He was, but a less-than-best Curry had him shook to the score in that second round. Imagine what a tight Curry could have done.