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Murat Gassiev to make HW debut in June
Posted: 08 Apr 2019, 12:40
by oogiebe
Former world champion Murat Gassiev could make his debut in the heavyweight division in June, according to the boxer's Russian coach Vitaly Slanov.
Gassiev will soon fly to the United States to train with head coach Abel Sanchez in Big Bear, California.
“Now Murat is training at home. But after some time he flies to the United States, to the base in Big Bear. He holds a weight of about 100 kg (220-pounds) and tries not to let any weight go. I think he will be ready to debut as a heavyweight in June,” said Slanov to tass.
In the summer of 2018, Gassiev suffered his first career defeat with a twelve round decision loss to Oleksandr Usyk. The loss, in the World Boxing Super Series tournament final, would cost Gassiev his cruiserweight belts under the World Boxing Association (WBA) and the International Boxing Federation (IBF).
Usyk himself has officially jumped to heavyweight, and makes his debut in that division next month.
In total, the Gassiev has a record of 26 victories (19 by KO) and one loss.
I like Gassiev's chances at HW. He has the frame to fill out nicely (6'3.5") and he's only 25 so he can really take a moderate pace of step up fights. Could maybe setup a rematch in a year with Usyk?
Re: Murat Gassiev to make HW debut in June
Posted: 08 Apr 2019, 12:41
by jamamb
gassiev is not 6'3.5, he was short then usyk, no interest in a rematch of a 12-0 fight
either way, i think the elite cws should be able to crack the top 20 at least, and some much higher
Re: Murat Gassiev to make HW debut in June
Posted: 08 Apr 2019, 12:45
by oogiebe
jamamb wrote: ↑08 Apr 2019, 12:41
gassiev is not 6'3.5, he was short then usyk, no interest in a rematch of a 12-0 fight
either way, i think the elite cws should be able to crack the top 20 at least, and some much higher
I would. Gassiev is still a babe in boxing years (25), and after some additional development, I'd be interested in seeing how he'd fair up against Usyk in a rematch.
Re: Murat Gassiev to make HW debut in June
Posted: 08 Apr 2019, 12:46
by boxing_rocks
jamamb wrote: ↑08 Apr 2019, 12:41
gassiev is not 6'3.5, he was short then usyk, no interest in a rematch of a 12-0 fight
either way, i think the elite cws should be able to crack the top 20 at least, and some much higher
Don't forget that Gassiev was only 23 when they fought. I would like to see a rematch in a couple years if they both do well at HW.
Re: Murat Gassiev to make HW debut in June
Posted: 08 Apr 2019, 12:47
by jamamb
oogiebe wrote: ↑08 Apr 2019, 12:45
I would. Gassiev is still a babe in boxing years (25), and after some additional development, I'd be interested in seeing how he'd fair up against Usyk in a rematch.
maybe, but a year sounds too soon, i think it wouldnt come until usyks had a shot at the belts and made much of his hw run already
Re: Murat Gassiev to make HW debut in June
Posted: 08 Apr 2019, 12:49
by oogiebe
jamamb wrote: ↑08 Apr 2019, 12:47
maybe, but a year sounds too soon, i think it wouldnt come until usyks had a shot at the belts and made much of his hw run already
That could very well be, in fact makes sense. By the way, I went and re-watched the weigh-in and Gassiev is a good 1/2 to 1 inch taller than Usyk.
Re: Murat Gassiev to make HW debut in June
Posted: 08 Apr 2019, 12:51
by Onetimeonly
No interest in a rematch, but interested in him at heavy.
Re: Murat Gassiev to make HW debut in June
Posted: 08 Apr 2019, 12:52
by ValMar
He might be among the top ten HW by the end of this year.
But, I can not imagine him defeating Joshua, Wilder, Fury and Usyk in the near future.
I expect him in the battles for the belts about 2024.
Re: Murat Gassiev to make HW debut in June
Posted: 08 Apr 2019, 13:02
by jamamb
oogiebe wrote: ↑08 Apr 2019, 12:49
That could very well be, in fact makes sense. By the way, I went and re-watched the weigh-in and Gassiev is a good 1/2 to 1 inch taller than Usyk.
u sure bruh
https://www.boxing247.com/wp-content/up ... usyk-1.jpg
Re: Murat Gassiev to make HW debut in June
Posted: 08 Apr 2019, 13:02
by oogiebe
Not as sure as I was before I saw that.
Re: Murat Gassiev to make HW debut in June
Posted: 08 Apr 2019, 13:03
by jamamb
in most pics usyks a bit taller, i think murat is prob about 6'2.5 or 6'2.75 if we are being nit picky
Re: Murat Gassiev to make HW debut in June
Posted: 08 Apr 2019, 13:07
by oogiebe
Curious that at weigh-in the heights were listed as they are in BoxRec.
Re: Murat Gassiev to make HW debut in June
Posted: 08 Apr 2019, 13:22
by jamamb
a lot of times numbers get out there and just get reused, murat has never looked that tall imo and clearly was no taller at the weigh in, unless usyks got lifts lol. gass was no taller then dorticos either
Re: Murat Gassiev to make HW debut in June
Posted: 08 Apr 2019, 13:25
by oogiebe
jamamb wrote: ↑08 Apr 2019, 13:22
a lot of times numbers get out there and just get reused, murat has never looked that tall imo and clearly was no taller at the weigh in, unless usyks got lifts lol. gass was no taller then dorticos either
They both had similar shoes on. Usyk actually looks the taller of the two.
Re: Murat Gassiev to make HW debut in June
Posted: 08 Apr 2019, 15:33
by SenorPipino
Usyk is usually listed at 6"3.5".
Good sized even if modern fans consider him a "small man."
Re: Murat Gassiev to make HW debut in June
Posted: 08 Apr 2019, 15:37
by tiny_acres
SenorPipino wrote: ↑08 Apr 2019, 15:33
Usyk is usually listed at 6"3.5".
Good sized even if modern fans consider him a "small man."
Amazing that 6'3.5" is considered small now.
Re: Murat Gassiev to make HW debut in June
Posted: 08 Apr 2019, 15:41
by SenorPipino
tiny_acres wrote: ↑08 Apr 2019, 15:37
Amazing that 6'3.5" is considered small now.
What 's even more amazing is that so many fans believe that a heavyweight can't be successful if he's Usyk's height.
Re: Murat Gassiev to make HW debut in June
Posted: 08 Apr 2019, 15:45
by tiny_acres
SenorPipino wrote: ↑08 Apr 2019, 15:41
What 's even more amazing is that so many fans believe that a heavyweight can't be successful if he's Usyk's height.
Last year in boxing history section people were saying we will never see a 6 ft 3 inch world heavyweight champion again.
Now Hal of the forum have picked Usyk to do just that.
Fans are a fickle bunch
Re: Murat Gassiev to make HW debut in June
Posted: 08 Apr 2019, 15:49
by SenorPipino
If you have the skills, there should be no problem neutralizing bigger guys.
Tyson and Frazier broke down plenty heavyweights who towered over them.
Re: Murat Gassiev to make HW debut in June
Posted: 08 Apr 2019, 15:50
by ValMar
SenorPipino wrote: ↑08 Apr 2019, 15:49
If you have the skills, there should be no problem neutralizing bigger guys.
Tyson and Frazier broke down plenty heavyweights who towered over them.
x2................
Re: Murat Gassiev to make HW debut in June
Posted: 08 Apr 2019, 16:08
by tiny_acres
SenorPipino wrote: ↑08 Apr 2019, 15:49
If you have the skills, there should be no problem neutralizing bigger guys.
Tyson and Frazier broke down plenty heavyweights who towered over them.
I fully agree
Re: Murat Gassiev to make HW debut in June
Posted: 08 Apr 2019, 16:12
by ValMar
.....And Holyfield, of course................
Re: Murat Gassiev to make HW debut in June
Posted: 09 Apr 2019, 01:18
by Ilya Muromets
oogiebe wrote: ↑08 Apr 2019, 12:45
I would.
Gassiev is still a babe in boxing years (25), and after some additional development, I'd be interested in seeing how he'd fair up against Usyk in a rematch.
But boxer years are almost like dog years compared to human years. In 15 years he'll be considered an old geezer ready for the rocking chair.
