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BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking update - Chisora vs Gashi + #15 Vacant spot voting

Posted: 20 Apr 2019, 17:53
by dagilechia
Current ranking:

1. ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Anthony Joshua - 22(21) 0 0 - next fight: 01.06.2019 vs TBA

2. ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Tyson Fury - 27(19) 0 1 - next fight: 15.06.2019 vs ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช Tom Schwarz - 24(16) 0 0 - (unranked, BoxRec's #39)

3. ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Deontay Wilder - 40(39) 0 1 - next fight: 18.05.2019 vs ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Dominic Breazeale - 20(18) 1 0 - (#10)

4. ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Dillian Whyte - 25(18) 1(1) 0 - next fight: 20.07.2019 vs ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด ร“scar Rivas - 26(18) 0 0 - (#11)

5. ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ Alexander Povetkin - 34(24) 2(1) 0 - next fight: 18.05.2019 vs TBA

6. ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡บ Luis Ortiz - 31(26) 1(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

7. ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ฌ Kubrat Pulev - 27(14) 1(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

8. ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ Joseph Parker - 25(19) 2(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

9. ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ฑ Adam Kownacki - 19(15) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

10. ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Dominic Breazeale - 20(18) 1(1) 0 - next fight: 18.05.2019 vs ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Deontay Wilder - 40(39) 0 1 - (#3)

11. ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด ร“scar Rivas - 26(18) 0 0 - next fight: 20.07.2019 vs ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Dillian Whyte - 25(18) 1(1) 0 - (#4)

12. ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Dereck Chisora - 30(21) 9(3) 0 - next fight: TBA

13. ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ท Filip Hrgoviฤ‡ - 7(5) 0 0 - next fight: 25.05.2019 vs ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Gregory Corbin - 15(9) 1(0) 0 - (unranked, BoxRec's #179)

14. ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช Agit Kabayel - 19(13) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

15. VACANT

Question A: How are the rankings affected by ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Dereck Chisora's (#12) UD 10 win over ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช Senad Gashi (unranked, BoxRec's #307)

My vote: Chisora out, Gashi remains unranked.

Question B: Who should take the #15 spot? (If Chisora gets voted out, the fighter that will get the #15 will automatically get moved to #14)

My vote:

1. ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Michael Hunter - 16(11) 1(0) 0 - 3 points
2. ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Hughie Fury - 21(11) 2(0) 0 - 2 points
3. ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฒ Carlos Takam - 36(28) 5(3) 1 - 1 point

The voting will last until the end of 27.04.2019.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking update - Chisora vs Gashi + #15 Vacant spot voting

Posted: 20 Apr 2019, 18:02
by oogiebe
Chisora out. Hunter in at 14. everyone moves up and 15 stays open.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking update - Chisora vs Gashi + #15 Vacant spot voting

Posted: 20 Apr 2019, 18:12
by dagilechia
oogiebe wrote: โ†‘20 Apr 2019, 18:02 Chisora out. Hunter in at 14. everyone moves up and 15 stays open.
look at my vote on the #15 vacant spot issue. to make your vote valid you must vote this way.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking update - Chisora vs Gashi + #15 Vacant spot voting

Posted: 20 Apr 2019, 18:16
by oogiebe
Chisora out.

1. ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Michael Hunter - 16(11) 1(0) 0 - 3 points

Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking update - Chisora vs Gashi + #15 Vacant spot voting

Posted: 20 Apr 2019, 18:17
by DrDuke
Chisora out.

Hunter and Joyce are to enter the top-15 with respective the 14th and the 15th positions.

My votes:
Hunter - 3 points.
Joyce - 2 points.
Helenius - 1 point.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking update - Chisora vs Gashi + #15 Vacant spot voting

Posted: 20 Apr 2019, 18:19
by oogiebe
Chisora out.

1. ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Michael Hunter - 16(11) 1(0) 3 points

2 Joyce 2 points
3 ??

Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking update - Chisora vs Gashi + #15 Vacant spot voting

Posted: 20 Apr 2019, 18:28
by dagilechia
Voting on the #15 so far (after 2 valid votes):

1. ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Michael Hunter - 16(11) 1(0) 0 - 6 points (1, 1)
2. ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Hughie Fury - 21(11) 2(0) 0 - 2 points (2, -)
2. ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Joe Joyce - 8(8) 0 0 - 2 points (-, 2)
3. ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ฎ Robert Helenius - 28(17) 2(1) 0 - 1 points (-, 3)
3. ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฒ Carlos Takam - 36(28) 5(3) 1 - 1 point (3, -)

Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking update - Chisora vs Gashi + #15 Vacant spot voting

Posted: 20 Apr 2019, 18:30
by Rob3_142
Question A:

Chisora to #13, Gashi to remain unranked

Question B: (this is fvcking hard!)

1. Joe Joyce (3pts)
2. Hammer (2pts)
3. Sergey Kuzmin (1pts)

Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking update - Chisora vs Gashi + #15 Vacant spot voting

Posted: 20 Apr 2019, 18:30
by oogiebe
Chisora out.

Hunter and Joyce are to enter the top-15 with respective the 14th and the 15th positions.

My votes:
Hunter - 3 points.
Joyce - 2 points.
Takam - 1 point.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking update - Chisora vs Gashi + #15 Vacant spot voting

Posted: 20 Apr 2019, 18:31
by dagilechia
oogiebe wrote: โ†‘20 Apr 2019, 18:30 Chisora out.

Hunter and Joyce are to enter the top-15 with respective the 14th and the 15th positions.

My votes:
Hunter - 3 points.
Joyce - 2 points.
Takam - 1 point.
:TU:

Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking update - Chisora vs Gashi + #15 Vacant spot voting

Posted: 20 Apr 2019, 18:31
by oogiebe
dagilechia wrote: โ†‘20 Apr 2019, 18:31:TU:
Ugh!

Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking update - Chisora vs Gashi + #15 Vacant spot voting

Posted: 20 Apr 2019, 18:38
by dagilechia
Voting on the #15 so far (after 4 valid votes):

1. ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Michael Hunter - 16(11) 1(0) 0 - 9 points (1, 1, -, 1)
2. ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Joe Joyce - 8(8) 0 0 - 7 points (-, 2, 1, 2)
3. ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Hughie Fury - 21(11) 2(0) 0 - 2 points (2, -, -, -)
3. ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡ด Christian Hammer - 24(14) 6(3) 0 - 2 points (-, -, 2, -)
3. ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฒ Carlos Takam - 36(28) 5(3) 1 - 2 points (3, -, -, 3)
6. ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ฎ Robert Helenius - 28(17) 2(1) 0 - 1 point (-, 3, -, -)
6. ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ Sergey Kuzmin - 15(11) 0 0 - 1 point (-, -, 3, -)

Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking update - Chisora vs Gashi + #15 Vacant spot voting

Posted: 20 Apr 2019, 18:41
by Lennox
Chisora Out

1. Hammer
2. Helenius
3. Spilka

Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking update - Chisora vs Gashi + #15 Vacant spot voting

Posted: 20 Apr 2019, 18:44
by dagilechia
i'm surprised that so much people votes Chisora out as it seems that he has a lot of fans on this forum, i expected to be bashed for my vote!

Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking update - Chisora vs Gashi + #15 Vacant spot voting

Posted: 20 Apr 2019, 18:51
by dagilechia
Voting on the #15 so far (after 5 valid votes):

1. ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Michael Hunter - 16(11) 1(0) 0 - 9 points (1, 1, -, 1, -)
2. ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Joe Joyce - 8(8) 0 0 - 7 points (-, 2, 1, 2, -)
3. ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡ด Christian Hammer - 24(14) 6(3) 0 - 5 points (-, -, 2, -, 1)
4. ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ฎ Robert Helenius - 28(17) 2(1) 0 - 3 point (-, 3, -, -, 2)
5. ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Hughie Fury - 21(11) 2(0) 0 - 2 points (2, -, -, -, -)
5. ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฒ Carlos Takam - 36(28) 5(3) 1 - 2 points (3, -, -, 3, -)
7. ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ Sergey Kuzmin - 15(11) 0 0 - 1 point (-, -, 3, -, -)
7. ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ฑ Artur Szpilka - 22(15) 3(3) 0 - 1 point (-, -, -, -, 3)

Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking update - Chisora vs Gashi + #15 Vacant spot voting

Posted: 20 Apr 2019, 18:56
by Rob3_142
I think it's a little harsh for Chisora to drop out because he couldn't get a guy who ran for 10 rounds, out of there.

There's also been some very interesting names getting thrown into the mix! Shows how shallow the division is!

Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking update - Chisora vs Gashi + #15 Vacant spot voting

Posted: 20 Apr 2019, 19:01
by oogiebe
Rob3_142 wrote: โ†‘20 Apr 2019, 18:56 I think it's a little harsh for Chisora to drop out because he couldn't get a guy who ran for 10 rounds, out of there.

There's also been some very interesting names getting thrown into the mix! Shows how shallow the division is!
I agree the division is very shallow. I was a supporter for Chisora on the first round of voting, but this fight really showed me how much he has fallen. Maybe we should've waited to vote after Ruiz fight tonight? I think we have all said at one time or another that after top 10, it's just a crap shoot.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking update - Chisora vs Gashi + #15 Vacant spot voting

Posted: 20 Apr 2019, 19:02
by dagilechia
yeah, 8 candidates for 1 spot after 5 votes :o

Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking update - Chisora vs Gashi + #15 Vacant spot voting

Posted: 20 Apr 2019, 19:06
by tiny_acres
oogiebe wrote: โ†‘20 Apr 2019, 19:01 I agree the division is very shallow. I was a supporter for Chisora on the first round of voting, but this fight really showed me how much he has fallen. Maybe we should've waited to vote after Ruiz fight tonight? I think we have all said at one time or another that after top 10, it's just a crap shoot.
I'm waiting to see how Ruiz looks

Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking update - Chisora vs Gashi + #15 Vacant spot voting

Posted: 20 Apr 2019, 21:29
by oogiebe
oogiebe wrote: โ†‘20 Apr 2019, 18:30 Chisora out.

Hunter and Joyce are to enter the top-15 with respective the 14th and the 15th positions.

My votes:
Hunter - 3 points.
Joyce - 2 points.
Takam - 1 point.
CHANGE!!

Chisora out.

Hunter and Joyce are to enter the top-15 with respective the 14th and the 15th positions.

My votes:
Hunter - 3 points.
Joyce - 2 points.
Ruiz- 1 point.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking update - Chisora vs Gashi + #15 Vacant spot voting

Posted: 20 Apr 2019, 21:43
by dagilechia
oogiebe wrote: โ†‘20 Apr 2019, 21:29 CHANGE!!

Chisora out.

Hunter and Joyce are to enter the top-15 with respective the 14th and the 15th positions.

My votes:
Hunter - 3 points.
Joyce - 2 points.
Ruiz- 1 point.
okay i'll edit the list then

Voting on the #15 so far (after 5 valid votes):

1. ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Michael Hunter - 16(11) 1(0) 0 - 9 points (1, 1, -, 1, -)
2. ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Joe Joyce - 8(8) 0 0 - 7 points (-, 2, 1, 2, -)
3. ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡ด Christian Hammer - 24(14) 6(3) 0 - 5 points (-, -, 2, -, 1)
4. ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ฎ Robert Helenius - 28(17) 2(1) 0 - 3 point (-, 3, -, -, 2)
5. ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Hughie Fury - 21(11) 2(0) 0 - 2 points (2, -, -, -, -)
6. ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ Sergey Kuzmin - 15(11) 0 0 - 1 point (-, -, 3, -, -)
6. ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡ฝ Andy Ruiz Jr - 32(21) 1(0) 0 - 1 point (-, -, -, 3, -)
6. ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ฑ Artur Szpilka - 22(15) 3(3) 0 - 1 point (-, -, -, -, 3)
6. ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฒ Carlos Takam - 36(28) 5(3) 1 - 1 point (3, -, -, -, -)

Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking update - Chisora vs Gashi + #15 Vacant spot voting

Posted: 21 Apr 2019, 06:42
by dagilechia
bump

Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking update - Chisora vs Gashi + #15 Vacant spot voting

Posted: 21 Apr 2019, 07:06
by tiny_acres
Chisora out

My next 3
Andy Ruiz
Michael Hunter
Joe Joyce

And honestly I feel bad even recognizing these 3 as top 15 contenders

Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking update - Chisora vs Gashi + #15 Vacant spot voting

Posted: 21 Apr 2019, 09:05
by candyslim
Chisora to stay - you don't demote a fighter for beating a semi-respectable opponent unless he has really stunk the place out. Gashi was intent on survival and Chisora always struggles with movers.

My vote ...

3 points : Hunter
2 points : Hammer
1 point : Kuzmin

Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking update - Chisora vs Gashi + #15 Vacant spot voting

Posted: 21 Apr 2019, 09:13
by tiny_acres
candyslim wrote: โ†‘21 Apr 2019, 09:05 Chisora to stay - you don't demote a fighter for beating a semi-respectable opponent unless he has really stunk the place out. Gashi was intent on survival and Chisora always struggles with movers.

My vote ...

3 points : Hunter
2 points : Hammer
1 point : Kuzmin
I voted Chisora out because from the start I didn't see him as top 15.
This just gave me the opportunity to demote him. It didn't have to do with this fight.
It had to do with his career