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Miller May Avoid Punishment
Posted: 25 Apr 2019, 12:57
by oogiebe
Jarrell Miller may avoid punishment for his three failed drug test on a technicality. Apparently Miller's license with the NYSAC had expired prior to the multiple failures and therefore doesn't come under the commission's jurisdiction.
Because American boxing is state by state, Miller doesn't have to answer to anyone. The boxing sanctioning bodies can still take action. SMH.
Re: Miller May Avoid Punishment
Posted: 25 Apr 2019, 13:02
by oogiebe
Re: Miller May Avoid Punishment
Posted: 25 Apr 2019, 13:08
by ValMar
Re: Miller May Avoid Punishment
Posted: 25 Apr 2019, 13:14
by tiny_acres
X2
No excuse for this
Re: Miller May Avoid Punishment
Posted: 25 Apr 2019, 13:19
by Ilya Muromets
Can he fight Joshua now?
Re: Miller May Avoid Punishment
Posted: 25 Apr 2019, 13:20
by oogiebe
No, he still won't get licensed. The NYSAC can still deny that.
Re: Miller May Avoid Punishment
Posted: 25 Apr 2019, 13:22
by jamamb
that wud be hilarious, avoiding punishment because you failed so many tests
if your gonna fail, fail big!
Re: Miller May Avoid Punishment
Posted: 25 Apr 2019, 13:24
by oogiebe
jamamb wrote: ↑25 Apr 2019, 13:22
that wud be hilarious, avoiding punishment because you failed so many tests
Another thing wrong with boxing. Let's see if the sanctioning bodies involved take action.
Re: Miller May Avoid Punishment
Posted: 25 Apr 2019, 13:26
by ValMar
oogiebe wrote: ↑25 Apr 2019, 13:24
Another thing wrong with boxing. Let's see if the sanctioning bodies involved take action.
They will kill boxing, definitely.
Re: Miller May Avoid Punishment
Posted: 25 Apr 2019, 13:29
by Enlightened-One
oogiebe wrote: ↑25 Apr 2019, 12:57
Jarrell Miller may avoid punishment for his three failed drug test on a technicality. Apparently Miller's license with the NYSAC had expired prior to the multiple failures and therefore doesn't come under the commission's jurisdiction.
Because American boxing is state by state, Miller doesn't have to answer to anyone. The boxing sanctioning bodies can still take action. SMH.
Other state athletic commissions could withdraw Miller’s license pending Jarrell providing permission to review VADA’s findings.
Of course they’re not obliged to do this, but the public outcry could compel them to do so.
The sports’ governing bodies could also remove him from their rankings, based on their affiliation with VADA.
Miller won’t escape punishment, but he may not get what he deserves.
Re: Miller May Avoid Punishment
Posted: 25 Apr 2019, 14:12
by Ilya Muromets
What would stop him from fighting overseas?
Meanwhile my man Pulev is banned in the USA for kissing a whore!
Re: Miller May Avoid Punishment
Posted: 25 Apr 2019, 14:13
by oogiebe
Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑25 Apr 2019, 14:12
What would stop him from fighting overseas?
Meanwhile my man Pulev is banned in the USA for kissing a whore!
OMG! Forgot about that. Ridiculous!
Re: Miller May Avoid Punishment
Posted: 25 Apr 2019, 15:46
by SenorPipino
So no one will grant Miller a license for a while.
No different then being suspended.
Eventually, sometime next year, some state will license him and all the others will then do likeswise.
He's a bigger name than ever. Expect Joshua to allow Miller another opportunity if he's still champion.
The match will make more money and be more eagerly anticipated than it would have on June 1.
Re: Miller May Avoid Punishment
Posted: 25 Apr 2019, 16:02
by Onetimeonly
jamamb wrote: ↑25 Apr 2019, 13:22
that wud be hilarious, avoiding punishment because you failed so many tests
if your gonna fail, fail big!
Agreed, he went for it with that pacquiao mix.
Re: Miller May Avoid Punishment
Posted: 25 Apr 2019, 16:54
by gilgamesh
Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑25 Apr 2019, 14:12
What would stop him from fighting overseas?
Meanwhile my man Pulev is banned in the USA for kissing a whore!
Is he in fact banned from the USA? I didn't hear anybody say anything like that. I know they made a big fuss about it, but I don't think they stripped him of his license or anything like that. At least not that I've heard.
Re: Miller May Avoid Punishment
Posted: 25 Apr 2019, 16:56
by oogiebe
gilgamesh wrote: ↑25 Apr 2019, 16:54
Is he in fact banned from the USA? I didn't hear anybody say anything like that. I know they made a big fuss about it, but I don't think they stripped him of his license or anything like that. At least not that I've heard.
His NY license had expired before the testing so they can't do anything but refuse a license. Same for the other 49 states. Only the sanctioning bodies can do something formal to him. At least those who sanctioned this fight. He will be refused a license for a while I'm sure wherever he goes.
Re: Miller May Avoid Punishment
Posted: 25 Apr 2019, 16:57
by gilgamesh
oogiebe wrote: ↑25 Apr 2019, 16:56
His NY license had expired before the testing so they can't do anything but refuse a license. Same for the other 49 states. Only the sanctioning bodies can do something formal to him. At least those who sanctioned this fight. He will be refused a license for a while I'm sure wherever he goes.
I meant Pulev
Re: Miller May Avoid Punishment
Posted: 25 Apr 2019, 16:58
by oogiebe
gilgamesh wrote: ↑25 Apr 2019, 16:57
I meant Pulev
Emily LItella, "Never mind."
Re: Miller May Avoid Punishment
Posted: 25 Apr 2019, 17:50
by Ilya Muromets
gilgamesh wrote: ↑25 Apr 2019, 16:54
Is he in fact banned from the USA? I didn't hear anybody say anything like that. I know they made a big fuss about it, but I don't think they stripped him of his license or anything like that. At least not that I've heard.
CA banned him - without even bothering with the tedious formality of a hearing. I suppose the other states will also feign politically correct indignation and honor the ban. F 'em! Fight in Europe then.
Re: Miller May Avoid Punishment
Posted: 25 Apr 2019, 20:30
by oogiebe
Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑25 Apr 2019, 17:50
CA banned him - without even bothering with the tedious formality of a hearing. I suppose the other states will also feign politically correct indignation and honor the ban. F 'em! Fight in Europe then.
Suspended him.
Re: Miller May Avoid Punishment
Posted: 25 Apr 2019, 20:32
by Enlightened-One
To be fair, Pulev was suspended for committing an act he subsequently admitted to, which was also caught on video, that compelled him to issue an apology.
He’ll get his license handed back to him as soon as he appears in front of the commission and promises not to do it again.
It’s a different situation to Miller’s circumstances.
A state athletic commission cannot remove a license from a fighter that doesn’t even possess one, which means he’s not in the realms of their jurisdiction.
Re: Miller May Avoid Punishment
Posted: 25 Apr 2019, 20:56
by dagilechia
ridiculous... but even if so, who'll fight him though
Re: Miller May Avoid Punishment
Posted: 25 Apr 2019, 20:57
by dagilechia
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑25 Apr 2019, 20:32
To be fair, Pulev was suspended for committing an act he subsequently admitted to, which was also caught on video, that compelled him to issue an apology.
He’ll get his license handed back to him as soon as he appears in front of the commission and promises not to do it again.
It’s a different situation to Miller’s circumstances.
A state athletic commission cannot remove a license from a fighter that doesn’t even possess one, which means he’s not in the realms of their jurisdiction.
but will they make him unable to get one?
Re: Miller May Avoid Punishment
Posted: 25 Apr 2019, 21:12
by oogiebe
dagilechia wrote: ↑25 Apr 2019, 20:57
but will they make him unable to get one?
Only where there is reciprocity and only if California continues to deny him a license
Re: Miller May Avoid Punishment
Posted: 26 Apr 2019, 00:06
by Enlightened-One
dagilechia wrote: ↑25 Apr 2019, 20:57
but will they make him unable to get one?
Hopefully.