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REPORT: Kownacki vs Helenius Summer

Posted: 26 Apr 2019, 12:33
by oogiebe
"When the Jarrell Miller mess went down last week, PBC heavyweight Adam Kownacki was one of the first names mentioned to replace “Big Baby” against Anthony Joshua on June 1 at Madison Square Garden.

Kownacki is unbeaten (19-0, 15 KO), has an entertaining style, and is popular in the New York area, fighting out of Brooklyn with Polish roots.

But the 30-year-old contender quickly took himself out of the discussion, and there was word that he’s near the head of the line to face WBC titleholder Deontay Wilder, also a PBC fighter, at some point in the relatively near future, though not next.

Kownacki himself said he’d be back in the ring in “mid-summer,” and it looks like we might know his opponent, as Mike Coppinger is reporting that Kownacki will face faded former European champion Robert Helenius in his next outing."


Not a very exciting fight. Another "W" for Kownacki on his road to a title shot.

Re: REPORT: Kownacki vs Helenius Summer

Posted: 26 Apr 2019, 12:38
by dagilechia
yeah same scenario as in Kownacki vs Washington fight.

Re: REPORT: Kownacki vs Helenius Summer

Posted: 26 Apr 2019, 12:39
by dagilechia
oogiebe wrote: 26 Apr 2019, 12:33
Kownacki is unbeaten (19-0, 15 KO), has an entertaining style, and is popular in the New York area, fighting out of Brooklyn with Polish roots.
He is actually Polish, not just Polish roots.

Re: REPORT: Kownacki vs Helenius Summer

Posted: 26 Apr 2019, 12:40
by oogiebe
dagilechia wrote: 26 Apr 2019, 12:39 He is actually Polish, not just Polish roots.
Just quoting the article. I'm aware he was born in Poland. Polish Power!!! :lol:

Re: REPORT: Kownacki vs Helenius Summer

Posted: 26 Apr 2019, 12:42
by jamamb
helenius is pretty middling (though so is kownacki imo) but honestly there arent many guys in the division putting together a better run then kownacki if he wins this

szpilka
martin
washington
helenius

3 of those guys already got title shots too

Re: REPORT: Kownacki vs Helenius Summer

Posted: 26 Apr 2019, 12:45
by oogiebe
jamamb wrote: 26 Apr 2019, 12:42 helenius is pretty middling (though so is kownacki imo) but honestly there arent many guys in the division putting together a better run then kownacki if he wins this

szpilka
martin
washington
helenius

3 of those guys already got title shots too
You are right, sad as that is.

Re: REPORT: Kownacki vs Helenius Summer

Posted: 26 Apr 2019, 12:48
by dagilechia
oogiebe wrote: 26 Apr 2019, 12:40 Just quoting the article. I'm aware he was born in Poland. Polish Power!!! :lol:
yes, i know it was just a quote :TU: Brooklyn Boy? That's where he comes from!

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I hope that he will prove once again that Polish Sausage is better than Miller's Juice :bag:

Re: REPORT: Kownacki vs Helenius Summer

Posted: 26 Apr 2019, 13:31
by Fightnight Scores
jamamb wrote: 26 Apr 2019, 12:42 helenius is pretty middling (though so is kownacki imo) but honestly there arent many guys in the division putting together a better run then kownacki if he wins this

szpilka
martin
washington
helenius

3 of those guys already got title shots too
oogiebe wrote: 26 Apr 2019, 12:45 You are right, sad as that is.
Sums up the depth of this sorry division!

Re: REPORT: Kownacki vs Helenius Summer

Posted: 26 Apr 2019, 13:50
by dagilechia
the top 5-10 fighters almost never fight each other. usually it's a top 5-10 contender fighting top 20-30 opponents until he gets a title shot. it's depressing. the top 5-10 fighters fighting each other usually are the most entertaining fights.

Re: REPORT: Kownacki vs Helenius Summer

Posted: 26 Apr 2019, 14:00
by DrDuke
If Helenius is ready, it can develop to a good scrap. If Helenius isn't ready, Kownacki will maul him down.

Re: REPORT: Kownacki vs Helenius Summer

Posted: 26 Apr 2019, 14:07
by oogiebe
DrDuke wrote: 26 Apr 2019, 14:00 If Helenius is ready, it can develop to a good scrap. If Helenius isn't ready, Kownacki will maul him down.
Kownacki will swarm him to death.

Re: REPORT: Kownacki vs Helenius Summer

Posted: 26 Apr 2019, 14:12
by jamamb
as mediocre as helly is , kownacki is a guy who had a hospital sending war vs kiladze and a super close fight with martin, it could be a fight. hopefully helenius gives more effort then he did vs whyte

Re: REPORT: Kownacki vs Helenius Summer

Posted: 26 Apr 2019, 14:34
by chinarich
DrDuke wrote: 26 Apr 2019, 14:00 If Helenius is ready, it can develop to a good scrap. If Helenius isn't ready, Kownacki will maul him down.
Helenium was ready about four years ago, I don’t think he comes with either much ambition or ability to win a meaningful fight these days...

Re: REPORT: Kownacki vs Helenius Summer

Posted: 26 Apr 2019, 14:38
by DrDuke
chinarich wrote: 26 Apr 2019, 14:34 Helenium was ready about four years ago, I don’t think he comes with either much ambition or ability to win a meaningful fight these days...
He spent his last bout pretty good.

Re: REPORT: Kownacki vs Helenius Summer

Posted: 26 Apr 2019, 14:41
by chinarich
DrDuke wrote: 26 Apr 2019, 14:38 He spent his last bout pretty good.
Apologies, didn’t realise he had fought Teper last, I thought his two most recent fights were when he struggled past that journeyman...

Re: REPORT: Kownacki vs Helenius Summer

Posted: 26 Apr 2019, 14:53
by dagilechia
jamamb wrote: 26 Apr 2019, 14:12 as mediocre as helly is , kownacki is a guy who had a hospital sending war vs kiladze and a super close fight with martin, it could be a fight. hopefully helenius gives more effort then he did vs whyte
to be fair, we still don't know how good/bad Martin really is. Kiladze landed much on Kownacki but he's a different fighter than Helenius, he relied on speed and footwork, Kownacki destroyed Szpilka and Washington, not defeated, he destroyed them, if he would destroy Helenius too it would already mean something. I would really like to see how Wilder deals with Kownacki's pressure and volume of punches in the first rounds. and Kowancki vs Martin wasn't that close imo, Kownacki won the first 5 rounds, judges had it 96-94 but to me it was a clear 97-93, close but not razor close.

Re: REPORT: Kownacki vs Helenius Summer

Posted: 26 Apr 2019, 15:03
by Contendeh
I like watching Kownacki fight, he’s entertaining.

Serious question though. What would be tougher for him, Helenius or running 5 miles in less than an hour?

Re: REPORT: Kownacki vs Helenius Summer

Posted: 26 Apr 2019, 15:08
by dagilechia
Contendeh wrote: 26 Apr 2019, 15:03 I like watching Kownacki fight, he’s entertaining.

Serious question though. What would be tougher for him, Helenius or running 5 miles in less than an hour?
both seem to be easy tasks for him

Re: REPORT: Kownacki vs Helenius Summer

Posted: 26 Apr 2019, 15:15
by Contendeh
dagilechia wrote: 26 Apr 2019, 15:08 both seem to be easy tasks for him
I am not trying to be a smart aleck here or anything, but do you know him/his training regiment?

I find it hard to believe he does any kind of serious roadwork.

Re: REPORT: Kownacki vs Helenius Summer

Posted: 26 Apr 2019, 15:16
by jamamb
just because your fat doesnt mean you dont run, he could just eat a lot

Re: REPORT: Kownacki vs Helenius Summer

Posted: 26 Apr 2019, 15:25
by Contendeh
jamamb wrote: 26 Apr 2019, 15:16 just because your fat doesnt mean you dont run, he could just eat a lot
Well, we know for sure he eats a lot!

I’m sure it’s possible, and he certainly has an incredible ring work rate, but I am just curious about his cardio training.

Re: REPORT: Kownacki vs Helenius Summer

Posted: 26 Apr 2019, 15:37
by dagilechia
Contendeh wrote: 26 Apr 2019, 15:15 I am not trying to be a smart aleck here or anything, but do you know him/his training regiment?

I find it hard to believe he does any kind of serious roadwork.
i think his training regiment is not good. before his fight vs Szpilka, he spent some time on a camp in Poland with Adamek and his post-Bloodworth trainers, and he looked very good in that fight and he was like 17-18lbs lighter than in his next bouts vs Washington or Martin. so his training regiment in USA is probably not great + he eats too much, especially too much cakes as he admits.

Re: REPORT: Kownacki vs Helenius Summer

Posted: 26 Apr 2019, 15:46
by Ruthless-RKO
Helenius can be a decent fight for a lot of the guys at hw. Just wasn’t up to it against Whyte that’s all.

Re: REPORT: Kownacki vs Helenius Summer

Posted: 26 Apr 2019, 15:55
by joshj909
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 26 Apr 2019, 15:46 Helenius can be a decent fight for a lot of the guys at hw. Just wasn’t up to it against Whyte that’s all.
I agree. People forget this. He's no world beater but he's respectable. He's shared the ring with a few top 25~ fighters and has only lost twice, going the distance with Whyte in the process. He beats all of Kownacki's previous opponent's in my opinion.

Re: REPORT: Kownacki vs Helenius Summer

Posted: 26 Apr 2019, 16:15
by Contendeh
dagilechia wrote: 26 Apr 2019, 15:37 i think his training regiment is not good. before his fight vs Szpilka, he spent some time on a camp in Poland with Adamek and his post-Bloodworth trainers, and he looked very good in that fight and he was like 17-18lbs lighter than in his next bouts vs Washington or Martin. so his training regiment in USA is probably not great + he eats too much, especially too much cakes as he admits.
“You don’t become champ by eating cakes”
- Lennox Lewis.

I hope his dietary habits don’t ruin him. I’d like to see him do really well.