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Who deserves a bigger split percentage between Spence and Crawford ? Who is the bigger 'draw' ?
Posted: 28 Apr 2019, 05:22
by apollo creed
Imo since Spence beat a good name like Garcia who had a big fan base I think Errol deserves a bigger split percentage but not by too much. Maybe a 55-45% split in Spence's favor.
Re: Who deserves a bigger split percentage between Spence and Crawford ? Who is the bigger 'draw' ?
Posted: 28 Apr 2019, 05:43
by Ruthless-RKO
They both got 1 belt each.
Crawford does amazing numbers on ESPN.
Spence does average numbers on Showtime.
I don’t believe Spence has fought on FOX yet, might give some indication as it’s available in more homes than ESPN is?
When these 2 come together, there will be a lot of interest. Not because of just Crawford or just Spence. But because they will be fighting each other.
Straight 50-50 split for me.
Is PBC want to give Spence a high basic purse and ESPN want to give Crawford a high basic purse, then so be it.
They can then split PPV money.
It’s all been explained in a previous thread I created. Spence thinks he’s a bigger draw, but reality is Garcia probably drove most of them buys.
Re: Who deserves a bigger split percentage between Spence and Crawford ? Who is the bigger 'draw' ?
Posted: 28 Apr 2019, 06:09
by apollo creed
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑28 Apr 2019, 05:43
They both got 1 belt each.
Crawford does amazing numbers on ESPN.
Spence does average numbers on Showtime.
I don’t believe Spence has fought on FOX yet, might give some indication as it’s available in more homes than ESPN is?
When these 2 come together, there will be a lot of interest. Not because of just Crawford or just Spence. But because they will be fighting each other.
Straight 50-50 split for me.
Is PBC want to give Spence a high basic purse and ESPN want to give Crawford a high basic purse, then so be it.
They can then split PPV money.
It’s all been explained in a previous thread I created. Spence thinks he’s a bigger draw, but reality is Garcia probably drove most of them buys.
I agree but when you beat a name with good popularity and and a bigger profile then your stocks are increasing. It's like when FMJ beat ODLH.
Re: Who deserves a bigger split percentage between Spence and Crawford ? Who is the bigger 'draw' ?
Posted: 28 Apr 2019, 06:21
by Thomastearns
apollo creed wrote: ↑28 Apr 2019, 06:09
I agree but when you beat a name with good popularity and and a bigger profile then your stocks are increasing. It's like when FMJ beat ODLH.
Yeah, Spence has picked his opposition well. Victories over Brook in the UK and Garcia in the US have made Errol Spence Jr a star.
Not too sure what good that fight against Khan did for Crawford. Out of the two I'd say Spence is the more likely for superstardom. With or without Crawford.
Re: Who deserves a bigger split percentage between Spence and Crawford ? Who is the bigger 'draw' ?
Posted: 28 Apr 2019, 06:39
by apollo creed
Thomastearns wrote: ↑28 Apr 2019, 06:21
Yeah, Spence has picked his opposition well. Victories over Brook in the UK and Garcia in the US have made Errol Spence Jr a star.
Not too sure what good that fight against Khan did for Crawford. Out of the two I'd say Spence is the more likely for superstardom. With or without Crawford.
Yup. Also Spence has a lot of good options like Porter, Garcia, Vargas, Pacquiao and maybe Thurman (if he's gonna fight again).
I think the Spence-Crawford fight needs to happen this year with Spence being the 'A' side. The winner is 147 top dog.
Re: Who deserves a bigger split percentage between Spence and Crawford ? Who is the bigger 'draw' ?
Posted: 28 Apr 2019, 07:24
by Cent0089
I do not know if money will stil exist when these 2 meet each other in ring. 50/50 split for now
Re: Who deserves a bigger split percentage between Spence and Crawford ? Who is the bigger 'draw' ?
Posted: 28 Apr 2019, 07:56
by candyslim
50/50 for me. How much is 50% of nothing, not a whole lot as I recall?
Re: Who deserves a bigger split percentage between Spence and Crawford ? Who is the bigger 'draw' ?
Posted: 28 Apr 2019, 08:53
by DrDuke
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑28 Apr 2019, 05:43
They both got 1 belt each.
Crawford does amazing numbers on ESPN.
Spence does average numbers on Showtime.
I don’t believe Spence has fought on FOX yet, might give some indication as it’s available in more homes than ESPN is?
When these 2 come together, there will be a lot of interest. Not because of just Crawford or just Spence. But because they will be fighting each other.
Straight 50-50 split for me.
Is PBC want to give Spence a high basic purse and ESPN want to give Crawford a high basic purse, then so be it.
They can then split PPV money.
It’s all been explained in a previous thread I created. Spence thinks he’s a bigger draw, but reality is Garcia probably drove most of them buys.
Sounds fair.
Re: Who deserves a bigger split percentage between Spence and Crawford ? Who is the bigger 'draw' ?
Posted: 28 Apr 2019, 09:42
by tiny_acres
candyslim wrote: ↑28 Apr 2019, 07:56
50/50 for me. How much is 50% of nothing, not a whole lot as I recall?
funny but true
Re: Who deserves a bigger split percentage between Spence and Crawford ? Who is the bigger 'draw' ?
Posted: 28 Apr 2019, 09:43
by SenorPipino
Need to see the actual Crawford-Khan numbers.
If the buy rate was terribly low as suspected, Spence has the edge in any negotiations.
Mostly because Crawford has no credible challengers at TR, and is going to need Spence to earn a hefty purse.
Spence can ignore Crawford and still get rich with big PBC fights against Porter, Danny Garcia, Pacquiao and Thurman (if Thurman ever stops putting the showdown off).
Neither is likely to ever become a huge PPV star. For whatever reason, both fighters lack the It Factor necessary to become a mainstream star.
Re: Who deserves a bigger split percentage between Spence and Crawford ? Who is the bigger 'draw' ?
Posted: 28 Apr 2019, 10:22
by apollo creed
SenorPipino wrote: ↑28 Apr 2019, 09:43
Need to see the actual Crawford-Khan numbers.
If the buy rate was terribly low as suspected, Spence has the edge in any negotiations.
Mostly because Crawford has no credible challengers at TR, and is going to need Spence to earn a hefty purse.
Spence can ignore Crawford and still get rich with big PBC fights against Porter, Danny Garcia, Pacquiao and Thurman (if Thurman ever stops putting the showdown off).
Neither is likely to ever become a huge PPV star. For whatever reason, both fighters lack the It Factor necessary to become a mainstream star.
Fortunately for Spence with wins over Brook and M. Garcia and also possible lucrative 'stable' fights with Porter, Danny Garcia, Vargas or Sometime Thurman, he is in the driver's seat. Crawford needs Spence more than Spence needs Crawford.
Re: Who deserves a bigger split percentage between Spence and Crawford ? Who is the bigger 'draw' ?
Posted: 28 Apr 2019, 10:54
by boxing_rocks
Should be 50/50
Re: Who deserves a bigger split percentage between Spence and Crawford ? Who is the bigger 'draw' ?
Posted: 28 Apr 2019, 10:56
by oogiebe
Whatever it takes to make the fight.
Re: Who deserves a bigger split percentage between Spence and Crawford ? Who is the bigger 'draw' ?
Posted: 28 Apr 2019, 11:02
by Onetimeonly
The split is the least of the issues with that fight being made. Crawford is fucked here, Spence has 4 big name welters and about the same at 154 at his promotion. They're never going to fight.
Re: Who deserves a bigger split percentage between Spence and Crawford ? Who is the bigger 'draw' ?
Posted: 28 Apr 2019, 13:25
by apollo creed
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑28 Apr 2019, 11:02
The split is the least of the issues with that fight being made. Crawford is fucked here, Spence has 4 big name welters and about the same at 154 at his promotion. They're never going to fight.
Yup. Spence has some nice less risky lucrative options.
Re: Who deserves a bigger split percentage between Spence and Crawford ? Who is the bigger 'draw' ?
Posted: 28 Apr 2019, 13:26
by Onetimeonly
apollo creed wrote: ↑28 Apr 2019, 13:25
Yup. Spence has some nice less risky lucrative options.
I think Garcia and Porter would give him a run. He'd destroy Thurman or PAC.
Re: Who deserves a bigger split percentage between Spence and Crawford ? Who is the bigger 'draw' ?
Posted: 28 Apr 2019, 13:42
by SenorPipino
Danny Garcia has a knack of not being busy enough against the better welters.
He waited far too long to let his hands go against Thurman and Porter.
He did start to open up against Granados, but Granados is really just a tough journeyman and Garcia apparently didn't feel threatened.
Garcia would feel threatened by Spence. He would fight cautiously and probably lose a lopsided decision.
The Porter who suddenly went boxer against Ugas didn't show anything that would trouble Spence.
Re: Who deserves a bigger split percentage between Spence and Crawford ? Who is the bigger 'draw' ?
Posted: 28 Apr 2019, 13:48
by Onetimeonly
He'd beat all of them. But Thurman literally has no chance at all. Garcia and Porter have paths to victory albeit underdog ones, Keith brings nothing to trouble him.
Re: Who deserves a bigger split percentage between Spence and Crawford ? Who is the bigger 'draw' ?
Posted: 28 Apr 2019, 13:51
by gilgamesh
50/50 split if it were to happen at the moment. It won't, and there won't even be serious talks at any point. Spence has options. Plenty of them. Crawford has none. Spence will inevitably be the bigger star of the two because he has bigger names to build himself into a bigger star against.
Re: Who deserves a bigger split percentage between Spence and Crawford ? Who is the bigger 'draw' ?
Posted: 28 Apr 2019, 13:56
by SenorPipino
gilgamesh wrote: ↑28 Apr 2019, 13:51
50/50 split if it were to happen at the moment. It won't, and there won't even be serious talks at any point. Spence has options. Plenty of them. Crawford has none. Spence will inevitably be the bigger star of the two because he has bigger names to build himself into a bigger star against.
That's right.
Fans will pay much more attention to Spence because he has a bunch of compelling opponents available.
But who's going to talk about any Crawford fights except ESPN?
Re: Who deserves a bigger split percentage between Spence and Crawford ? Who is the bigger 'draw' ?
Posted: 28 Apr 2019, 16:42
by IKSRTFO
apollo creed wrote: ↑28 Apr 2019, 06:09
I agree but when you beat a name with good popularity and and a bigger profile then your stocks are increasing. It's like when FMJ beat ODLH.
Except Mayweather beat the top PPV guy. Garcia wasn't even the A side nor has he ever been on PPV.
Re: Who deserves a bigger split percentage between Spence and Crawford ? Who is the bigger 'draw' ?
Posted: 28 Apr 2019, 16:45
by IKSRTFO
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑28 Apr 2019, 11:02
The split is the least of the issues with that fight being made. Crawford is fucked here, Spence has 4 big name welters and about the same at 154 at his promotion. They're never going to fight.
None of them wanted to fight him or that's what Spence marketed himself out to be. Crawford 100% wants to fight Spence, no runaround like Porter.
If he doesn't fight Crawford next, I bet Haymon puts Spence in with Sergey Lipinets, mark my words.
Re: Who deserves a bigger split percentage between Spence and Crawford ? Who is the bigger 'draw' ?
Posted: 28 Apr 2019, 17:01
by Onetimeonly
IKSRTFO wrote: ↑28 Apr 2019, 16:45
None of them wanted to fight him or that's what Spence marketed himself out to be. Crawford 100% wants to fight Spence, no runaround like Porter.
If he doesn't fight Crawford next, I bet Haymon puts Spence in with Sergey Lipinets, mark my words.
He's definitely not fighting Crawford anytime soon. Lipinets is another good fighter.
Re: Who deserves a bigger split percentage between Spence and Crawford ? Who is the bigger 'draw' ?
Posted: 28 Apr 2019, 18:52
by IKSRTFO
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑28 Apr 2019, 17:01
He's definitely not fighting Crawford anytime soon. Lipinets is another good fighter.
Viktor Postol would beat Sergey Lipinets.
Re: Who deserves a bigger split percentage between Spence and Crawford ? Who is the bigger 'draw' ?
Posted: 28 Apr 2019, 18:59
by Onetimeonly
IKSRTFO wrote: ↑28 Apr 2019, 18:52
Viktor Postol would beat Sergey Lipinets.
Unlikely, but possible. What's your point?