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After watching the Breazeale demolition and knockout, who would you favour if Wilder and Fury rematched now.

If Wilder doesn’t attempt to actually box, he’ll ko Fury.

I don't think wilder will ever have a more perfect opportunity for the ko than that last one. Can't help thinking his chance has been and gone, if that didn't stop fury with those massive shots then he won't catch him again.

Let's not forget fury won't be rusty this time either.

Steveh583 wrote: ↑19 May 2019, 04:14 I don't think wilder will ever have a more perfect opportunity for the ko than that last one. Can't help thinking his chance has been and gone, if that didn't stop fury with those massive shots then he won't catch him again.

Let's not forget fury won't be rusty this time either.

I don’t think Wilder landed with his best shot for either knockdown.

If Fury doesn’t get tagged he wins, I just don’t think he will avoid Wilder for the full 12. Wilder should take massive confidence from the first fight imo. It showed he can beat Fury

Of course, still Fury. Breazeale bout tells nothing about it. Fury is obviously far more hard to hit, he's much smarter and faster, his chin is better in many times. The Gypsy King will still outbox Wilder and for the second time he will most likely be prepared even better to avoid Wilder's right hand.

lillywhite14 wrote: ↑19 May 2019, 04:16 I don’t think Wilder landed with his best shot for either knockdown.

If Fury doesn’t get tagged he wins, I just don’t think he will avoid Wilder for the full 12. Wilder should take massive confidence from the first fight imo. It showed he can beat Fury

Yeah it's basically the same as prior to the first one. Either fury boxes his way to victory or gets sparked. Wilders always gonna be a danger.

Wilder has a highlight reel at ~224, but he lost a stone before his two biggest opponents.

I think he'd improve his chances against Fury at 224, not because 212's too light, but because historically his additional weight's reflected a higher confidence that he can smash his opponent. You could see he was feeling himself before finishing Breazeale.

A confident Wilder's all kinds of trouble for Fury and AJ, but apart from his comeback against Ortiz, we haven't seen him carry that confidence up yet. And like I say, his weight seems to reflect where he's at mentally much more than limiting what he can do.

Fury hadn't fought for ages when he fought Wilder. He still schooled him. He's smart and will learn from the first fight. Won't get caught again.

Only one winner of this contest, Fury and he will make it look easy.

Wilder learned an awful lot from the first fight. He showed it last night vs Breazeale. Not to say Breazeale is anything special, he's not, but Wilder didn't resort to the wild windmill antics. He almost did in the corner at one point, but restrained himself and then landed a perfect one-two. A very straight one-two.

oogiebe wrote: ↑19 May 2019, 11:05 Wilder learned an awful lot from the first fight. He showed it last night vs Breazeale. Not to say Breazeale is anything special, he's not, but Wilder didn't resort to the wild windmill antics. He almost did in the corner at one point, but restrained himself and then landed a perfect one-two. A very straight one-two.

With respect, before typing it my reply feels troll-like but I do not mean it to but what the hell are you talking about?!

He learnt a lot? We saw a two minute fight and in that two minutes, against a slow moving, cumbersome, sloth-like opponent he still got sloppy, did windmill a little when he ran in and got caught clean and stunned.

He did land a perfect one-two, that is for sure, against a pretty shite opponent, I mean damn Dominic, this is the heavyweight championsip of the world son, wake up and show a little bit of fcking fire. Zero sharpness, zero ability to actually snap a shot out, except two right hands when WIlder got wild, he spent the fight throwing half arses shots, taking shots and shaking his head.

tobyh5 wrote: ↑19 May 2019, 11:37 With respect, before typing it my reply feels troll-like but I do not mean it to but what the hell are you talking about?!

He learnt a lot? We saw a two minute fight and in that two minutes, against a slow moving, cumbersome, sloth-like opponent he still got sloppy, did windmill a little when he ran in and got caught clean and stunned.

He did land a perfect one-two, that is for sure, against a pretty shite opponent, I mean damn Dominic, this is the heavyweight championsip of the world son, wake up and show a little bit of fcking fire. Zero sharpness, zero ability to actually snap a shot out, except two right hands when WIlder got wild, he spent the fight throwing half arses shots, taking shots and shaking his head.

Wilder learned an awful lot from the first fight. He showed it last night vs Breazeale. Not to say Breazeale is anything special, he's not, but Wilder didn't resort to the wild windmill antics. He almost did in the corner at one point, but restrained himself and then landed a perfect one-two. A very straight one-two.

He used his jab better. He was more reserved than he had been. He didn't go hog wild. He backed off and re-set before the KO. I don't think he was hurt or stunned, it looked like he was off-balance, but did recognize that Breazeale wasn't as hurt as he had thought (in the corner). I don't think any of that is out of line.

not going to happen.... But if it did... Fury will be faster, sharper, less rusty... Wilder's best chance was when they fought, and him kayoing flat footed one-dimensional mandatories will never convince me otherwise.

tobyh5 wrote: ↑19 May 2019, 11:37 With respect, before typing it my reply feels troll-like but I do not mean it to but what the hell are you talking about?!

He learnt a lot? We saw a two minute fight and in that two minutes, against a slow moving, cumbersome, sloth-like opponent he still got sloppy, did windmill a little when he ran in and got caught clean and stunned.

He did land a perfect one-two, that is for sure, against a pretty shite opponent, I mean damn Dominic, this is the heavyweight championsip of the world son, wake up and show a little bit of fcking fire. Zero sharpness, zero ability to actually snap a shot out, except two right hands when WIlder got wild, he spent the fight throwing half arses shots, taking shots and shaking his head.

Yep, Breezale threw a counter right while hurt on the ropes and Wilders legs stiffened. If that was AJ or even someone half credible like Whye or Ortiz he could’ve been in trouble. The reason he got caught so easy even with Breezale in real trouble is because those stupid windmills leave him so open so easy straight right hand counters