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Is Wilder being legitimately drug tested? Or is it just the gangster drug test crew in Las Vegas, the same ones that ran cover for him when he backed out of the fight with Povetkin? His brother recently failed a drug test.

He is very cut up with an abnormally low body fat percentage. Are there any other heavyweights that look like that? That's how modern doped up bodybuilders look.

I imagine he's clean. If he's guilty of anything it's diuretics.

People forget he was a basketball player. You want lean muscle mass and low body fat for that kind of sport anyways. He's always looked that way by and large, If the speculation is because of his kayo power, its because of leverage and speed. Thomas Hearns was a fornicating bean pole and hit like a ton of bricks. His body is not much different than someone like LeBron James.

He'll be 'tested' as part of the WBC clean boxing program, but how often that actually means he gets tested probably isn't that often.

He will be getting more stringent testing than his brother was though, and he hasn't failed so far. He's not one of the fighters I'd immediately point to as dirty. Maybe there's some legal for now substance he might be getting a benefit from (who isn't?), or an undisclosed TUE, as rumoured constantly with Joshua. As for the rest I'm happy enough to assume he's clean, until anything indicates otherwise.

I believe he’s clean. Genuinely.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑19 May 2019, 15:53 I believe he’s clean. Genuinely.

I do too, he has a very raw energy something you can't get via a needle or pill - thrilling KO yesterday!

I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt for now. His physique is easily naturally achievable with reasonable genetics and consistent training. His output is moderate. His relative lightness and fast twitch dominance explains the speed and power.

Hes in the wbc vada program.

Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑19 May 2019, 13:19 Is Wilder being legitimately drug tested? Or is it just the gangster drug test crew in Las Vegas, the same ones that ran cover for him when he backed out of the fight with Povetkin? His brother recently failed a drug test.

lol i bet you never started threads asking the same question of wlad, vit, povetkin, pulev, adamek, kownacki, etc, it pains you every time wilder wins doesnt it

jamamb wrote: ↑19 May 2019, 17:09 lol i bet you never started threads asking the same question of wlad, vit, povetkin, pulev, adamek, kownacki, etc, it pains you every time wilder wins doesnt it

Dude was saying he had aids yesterday, now he's unnaturally powerful.

You’re crazy if you think any of the top heavys are clean.

I may well be naive but I like to believe all athletes (not just boxers) are clean until proven otherwise. When someone produces an incredible performance I really want it to be legitimate...

Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑19 May 2019, 16:52 Hes in the wbc vada program.

Vada, the same crew that set up Povetkin on a spurious charge to run cover for Wilder weasling out of their scheduled fight. Vada, Las Vegas, NV. Mafia Vegas, Nevada nuff said.

Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑19 May 2019, 19:33 Vada, the same crew that set up Povetkin on a spurious charge to run cover for Wilder weasling out of their scheduled fight. Vada, Las Vegas, NV. Mafia Vegas, Nevada nuff said.

u have not a shred of evidence that pov was set up

lol andrej wawrzyk also tested positive when he was scheduled to fight wilder, was wilder running from him too

jamamb wrote: ↑19 May 2019, 17:09 lol i bet you never started threads asking the same question of wlad, vit, povetkin, pulev, adamek, kownacki, etc, it pains you every time wilder wins doesnt it

You are are evading the question. Start our own thread on the various Russians and eastern Europeans that you may suspect of illegal drug use. Also kindly refrain from assigning particular personal motives to me lest i return the favor and accuse you of perverse delight everytime Wilder wins (doesn't it?). Thank you.

lol in the same day ive been called a wilder hater and nuthugger basically

jamamb wrote: ↑19 May 2019, 19:36 u have not a shred of evidence that pov was set up

lol andrej wawrzyk also tested positive when he was scheduled to fight wilder, was wilder running from him too

I certainly do. For one thing Wilder never even went to Russia to prepare for the Povetkin fight. He knew in advance that the fight would be cancelled.

jamamb wrote: ↑19 May 2019, 19:42 lol in the same day ive been called a wilder hater and nuthugger basically

It must be your lucky day.

Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑19 May 2019, 19:43 I certainly do. For one thing Wilder never even went to Russia to prepare for the Povetkin fight. He knew in advance that the fight would be cancelled.

lol its not like he trains in russia

was he ducking wawrztk too?

jamamb wrote: ↑19 May 2019, 19:42 lol in the same day ive been called a wilder hater and nuthugger basically

you schizophrenic asshole

jamamb wrote: ↑19 May 2019, 19:42 lol in the same day ive been called a wilder hater and nuthugger basically

Make your mind up, what are you?

I don't know if Wilder ever was properly tested for PEDs. No one here posting, unless they are either Wilder or someone who can follow the chain of custody from a testing company, knows either. Therefore, only 1-3 people in the world could truly know if he is clean or not. Anyone waving this VADA flag around, or any other drug testing company, is only showing potential evidence and not fact.

jamamb wrote: ↑19 May 2019, 19:45 lol its not like he trains in russia

was he ducking wawrztk too?

Povetkin KO'd Wawrzyk in 3.

Fighters almost always go to the locale of a big fight to train. The big fight was to be in Moscow between Wilder and mandatory challenger Povetkin in 2016. The fight was cancelled due to a fake (Povetkin later won the court case in New York City) VADA positive test. It was cancelled only 5 days before the event was to take place. Wilder never went to Russia to train for the fight.

Good post, SV.

Interesting article on Doc Margaret Goodman and VADA in Las Vegas NeVADA - but everything in LV is suspect to put it mildly. LV is a city created by organized crime in the Mojave Desert with the sole intention of fleecing the suckers and so it remains. "Never give a sucker an even break",

http://tss.ib.tv/boxing/featured-articl ... et-goodman

chinarich wrote: ↑19 May 2019, 18:22 I may well be naive but I like to believe all athletes (not just boxers) are clean until proven otherwise. When someone produces an incredible performance I really want it to be legitimate...

Actually I just posed the question. The thread title is a question. Then I gave a reason why I might be suspicious, namely his unnaturally cut up very low body fat physique resembling that of no other heavyweight I could ever think of. I didn't say he was using drugs. Strange physique aside from the low body fat. His arms don't look very strong. His legs are skinny. Massive shoulders.