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diddy wrote: ↑20 May 2019, 13:46Julian Williams Insinuates Charlo on PEDs

No other way for me to interpret these comments.

https://www.badlefthook.com/2019/5/19/1 ... ug-testing

He didnt name names but this is how I dissect these remarks. "I'm the champ now and the one man who has beaten me was cheating". Thats my evaluation here.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑23 May 2019, 05:12 Jermell Charlo is enrolled in the WBC's CBP program operated by VADA. This means he's willing to participate in VADA testing and he has previously been tested by that organisation on multiple occassions, as per their official website.

By the time Jermell Charlo engages in his rematch against Tony Harrison, he would have participated in six WBC world title fights, covering a 2½ year timeframe, all requiring VADA testing as part of the CBP.

I am aware that Jermell missed a single test last year, for the Tony Harrison fight, but he was tested on other occasions during the lead-up to the same bout. So missing a single test is not the same as testing positive for banned substances. This was just a one-off event.

diddy wrote: ↑23 May 2019, 13:04 JRock doesnt care about Jermell. He cares about Jermall, the guy that beat him.

Best Coast wrote: ↑23 May 2019, 02:59 Could be damage control by J-Rock. Williams may have Hurd's number but I wont be surprised if he rematches Charlo at 160 and loses to Jermall again, even though it may not be by KO next time. Charlo might just have J-Rock's number.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑23 May 2019, 05:12 Jermell Charlo is enrolled in the WBC's CBP program operated by VADA. This means he's willing to participate in VADA testing and he has previously been tested by that organisation on multiple occassions, as per their official website.

By the time Jermell Charlo engages in his rematch against Tony Harrison, he would have participated in six WBC world title fights, covering a 2½ year timeframe, all requiring VADA testing as part of the CBP.

I am aware that Jermell missed a single test last year, for the Tony Harrison fight, but he was tested on other occasions during the lead-up to the same bout. So missing a single test is not the same as testing positive for banned substances. This was just a one-off event.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑23 May 2019, 13:18 The 154lbs Williams competes in a completely different weight division. And what I said about the 154lbs Jermell applies to the 160lbs Jermall.

There’s no point in pretending the Charlo’s are unwilling to participate in VADA testing.

IKSRTFO wrote: ↑23 May 2019, 22:52 I think he's more likely to stay at 154 and eventually fight Jemell for revenge against Jemall.

IKSRTFO wrote: ↑23 May 2019, 22:56 It really doesn't because they have different trainers.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑24 May 2019, 00:15 Did you actually read diddy's allegations about the Charlo’s allegedly refusing to be tested by VADA, when in fact they’ve BOTH been tested by that very organisation on MULTIPLE occasions?

Keep up with the flow of the conversation!!!

IKSRTFO wrote: ↑24 May 2019, 10:39 They might not have been tested when Jermall did fight Williams. He didn't even have any type of WBC belt then.

Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑24 May 2019, 11:04 All speculation

Im guessing j rock v charlo was usada testing. Haymon had those test results delivered to pbc brass only. Its entirely possible charlo tested positive and j rock caught wind of it. But again that is purely speculative

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑24 May 2019, 11:00 'J Rock' didn't even mention the Charlo's by name - diddy did. It was this particular BoxRec forum user that actually made this allegation - not Julian Williams. Please check for yourself!

All 'J Rock’ said was that his future opponents' would have to be VADA tested for 90 days. And then he went onto say that he wants to "find out who’s really the best in the 154lbs division", which obviously excludes the 160lbs Jermall Charlo.

Both Charlo brothers have definitely been tested by VADA on multiple occasions.

Nobody should pretend that Jermell or Jermall have never been tested by VADA, because they both have been. It's not even up for discussion.

Nobody on this planet is entitled to an opinion on this, because this is a real-world historical fact that actually took place on numerous occasions.

If you're pretending that Jermall Charlo cheated when he defeated Julian Williams, well that's a completely different discussion and is clearly an unsubstantiated allegation, because even 'J Rock' has never alleged that he was beaten by a PED user!

Why are people referring to the Charlo's, because I can read and I know what Julian Williams' tweet actually said?

IKSRTFO wrote: ↑24 May 2019, 10:39 They might not have been tested when Jermall did fight Williams. He didn't even have any type of WBC belt then.

Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑24 May 2019, 11:04 All speculation

Im guessing j rock v charlo was usada testing. Haymon had those test results delivered to pbc brass only. Its entirely possible charlo tested positive and j rock caught wind of it. But again that is purely speculative

Deleted_Scenes wrote: ↑24 May 2019, 17:06 The only testing for that fight, was the standard commission urine test, 2 hours before the fight. No VADA, no USADA, no nothing. Stephen Edwards asked for it, but team Charlo didn't want it so it never happened.



No USADA. Nobody could have failed, because nobody was tested during camp.

Back at the time of the fight, it was Edwards who was suspicious, because the A-side (Charlo) could have asked for anything they wanted, yet never mentioned ped testing once.