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THAT.... is the real question....

HomicideHenry wrote: ↑02 Jun 2019, 04:25 THAT.... is the real question....

Why wouldn’t he? Why waste millions of dollars fighting an unnecessary lawsuit?

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑02 Jun 2019, 04:29 Why wouldn’t he? Why waste millions of dollars fighting an unnecessary lawsuit?

Because he said he'd talk to his team about it. Just a week ago he was with Top Rank, now he's with Al Haymon. We might just see Ruiz try and tackle Fury instead, or .... You never know, he may refuse and be stripped and the titles are vacant all over again.

With the heavyweight division disappointment is more likely. I hope not but who knows.

Of course he will, huge money against a guy he just beat the shit out of.

Of course he will.

“The real question” is . . . Does AJ / Eddie want the rematch?

the team should get together, look at all these new possibilities, belts, opponents, purses as well as losses and act accordingly...

HomicideHenry wrote: ↑02 Jun 2019, 04:25 THAT.... is the real question....

Of course he will because he would win again by stoppage. The question should be if AJ and his team want to proceed with the rematch.

Ruiz will fancy repeating the ko. It was no fluke, this has been on the cards since the Klitschko fight. When Joshua was massively exposed but Klitschko was too tired to pull the trigger.

Though I must admit I didn't think Ruiz would be the man to do the job in the end. Hats off to him though, he's just made the division fun again.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑02 Jun 2019, 04:29 Why wouldn’t he? Why waste millions of dollars fighting an unnecessary lawsuit?

Yup. Also he'd make even more money. Ruiz is in a win-win situation atm.

The only worry is that Ruiz might let himself go physically between now and the rematch.

ewenhay wrote: ↑02 Jun 2019, 04:51 The only worry is that Ruiz might let himself go physically between now and the rematch.

That is a possibility. Just like Douglas.

HomicideHenry wrote: ↑02 Jun 2019, 04:39 Because he said he'd talk to his team about it. Just a week ago he was with Top Rank, now he's with Al Haymon. We might just see Ruiz try and tackle Fury instead, or .... You never know, he may refuse and be stripped and the titles are vacant all over again.

With the heavyweight division disappointment is more likely. I hope not but who knows.

Andy has been with Al Haymon for six months.

Providing a non-committal vague answer to a “what next” type of question immediately after having fought is the normal response.

Ruiz Jr. won’t waste his entire life savings ducking the AJ rematch.

why wouldnt he take the rematch, huge money for a guy he just beat up, like said

ewenhay wrote: ↑02 Jun 2019, 04:51 The only worry is that Ruiz might let himself go physically between now and the rematch.

ewenhay wrote: ↑02 Jun 2019, 04:47 Ruiz will fancy repeating the ko. It was no fluke, this has been on the cards since the Klitschko fight. When Joshua was massively exposed but Klitschko was too tired to pull the trigger.

Though I must admit I didn't think Ruiz would be the man to do the job in the end. Hats off to him though, he's just made the division fun again.

Wlad was a big puncher and a world class proven hw. It wasn't a shocker that he k.d AJ. Ruiz's grit and boxing skills made the big difference vs AJ.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑02 Jun 2019, 04:54 Andy has been with Al Haymon for six months.

Providing a non-committal vague answer to a “what next” type of question immediately after having fought is the normal response.

Ruiz Jr. won’t waste his entire life savings ducking the AJ rematch.

Weird.... I must have misread an article about him leaving Top Rank for Haymon... The article was 4 days ago my bad.

apollo creed wrote: ↑02 Jun 2019, 04:55 Wlad was a big puncher and a world class proven hw. It wasn't a shocker that he k.d AJ. Ruiz's grit and boxing skills made the big difference vs AJ.

It was more that fact that he looked like the mover in that fight despite being 40 and never having looked like the mover in any of his previous defences rather than the knockdown.

Although the way Joshua couldn't recover quickly was another huge alarm bell. A younger Klitschko would have decimated him at that point.

ewenhay wrote: ↑02 Jun 2019, 04:51 The only worry is that Ruiz might let himself go physically between now and the rematch.

He let himself go from dimitrenko til tonight.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑02 Jun 2019, 05:00 He let himself go from dimitrenko til tonight.

I know, I was joking. I'm totally chuffed for Ruiz.

Also AJ was not a paper champ or a chiny fighter as some armchair warrior-'boxing experts' are yapping about. His wins over Whyte and W.K are quality wins! He showed big heart in those fights.

ironbeard wrote: ↑02 Jun 2019, 04:41 Of course he will.

“The real question” is . . . Does AJ / Eddie want the rematch?

Or maybe even "Does AJ / Eddie need the rematch now?"

ewenhay wrote: ↑02 Jun 2019, 05:05 I know, I was joking. I'm totally chuffed for Ruiz.

In terms of the existence of a rematch clause, AJ said the following:

'I didn't even ask about a rematch clause because I was so confident I was going to win. If it's there, we'll go again and I'll get the titles back.‘

So if there’s no rematch clause, then Ruiz Jr. won’t be obliged to face Anthony Joshua next, though I can’t imagine his team omitting this sort of blatantly obvious and seemingly mandatory stipulation in the contract.

DrDuke wrote: ↑02 Jun 2019, 05:06 Or maybe even "Does AJ / Eddie need the rematch now?"

Absolutely aj needs this rematch now.

apollo creed wrote: ↑02 Jun 2019, 05:05 Also AJ was not a paper champ or a chiny fighter as some armchair warrior-'boxing experts' are yapping about. His wins over Whyte and W.K are quality wins! He showed big heart in those fights.

Quality? Ehhh.... They were solid but not top notch quality.... The thing with Joshua is every time he won it was always overblown by his fanbase.... All his flaws were shrugged off, and any unanswered questions were basically ignored.

He is not a fluid man, because of his muscularity. He tends to be too mechanical, but that's typical of most British boxers. He gasses after a few exchanges, takes a lot of breathers in there. His chin isn't paper mache or china but it's not sturdy either.

And biggest of all is the way he was positioned to those titles in the first place. He was handed the IBF belt on a platinum platter. He fought an older, inactive Klitschko for the WBA strap and only won because Klitschko let him off the hook. He won the WBO, arguably, because the referee wouldn't really allow Parker to do anything.

Don't bring up Povetkin. He was 39 years old and hadn't been the same guy ever since being busted for PEDs a few years earlier. Takam was more telling, nearly going the distance and he wasn't anything special.

He may one day become a great champion like Lennox Lewis, but he's got a bigger mountain to climb than Lewis had to climb. He's got far more to work on. With Fury and Wilder around, both in their primes, let alone Ruiz and others coming up the pike (ie, Usyk) he may never regain the titles unless he changes everything.