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Posted: **02 Jun 2019, 20:15**

There are a lot of parallels. Tall, built like a greek statue, kinda robotic, possessing of major offensive firepower but maybe a little iffy in the chin and stamina departments.

I could definitely see AJ making some adjustments to his style, fighting more conservatively, and going on to have a long, Wlad-esque career.

Posted: **02 Jun 2019, 21:29**

prime Wlad > prime AJ

Posted: **02 Jun 2019, 21:47**

wlad in the second phase of his career mastered that quick step back and out range, that would of served aj well vs ruiz

Posted: **02 Jun 2019, 22:18**

No, the british lennox lewis

Oh wait...

Posted: **03 Jun 2019, 02:10**

Joshua isn't significantly different from Wlad or Lewis. All three were Olympic gold medalists. All three were #1 heavyweights. All three got knocked out. All three were about 6' 6" and buff. Styles were kind of similar, but certainly not identical.

But parallels aside, the others recovered from their losses and commenced reigns as champion. Joshua still has to try to earn that, and he might.

Posted: **03 Jun 2019, 02:52**

I would be more concerned about AJ's lack of heart than his questionable chin or robotic style.

He looked all the time like he didnt want to be there. He looked not focused or smart at al.

Posted: **03 Jun 2019, 03:18**

FruitStealer wrote: ↑03 Jun 2019, 02:52 I would be more concerned about AJ's lack of heart than his questionable chin or robotic style.

this. he looks like he doesn't have it anymore.

Posted: **03 Jun 2019, 03:21**

gotta keep that 0 or your sent out the door

Posted: **03 Jun 2019, 03:47**

AJ lost. It’s as simple as that. He can come again and recover from this.

Sometimes fighters learn from their previous failures to become much better at their trade.

We shouldn’t write off AJ just yet.

Posted: **03 Jun 2019, 07:01**

He's neither Wlad, nor Lewis. I bet, he'll never become that dominant champion. He has no basis for that. And there's Tyson Fury out there. However, even Wilder will handle Joshua, he'll just KTFO him, if Joshua fails to land a KO punch earlier.

Posted: **03 Jun 2019, 07:02**

Lots of similarities for sure .
But the Klitchkos were masters at selecting fighters who were very beatable and also wanted to fight mainly on home soil.

AJ somehow lost the plot or even the desire at the weekend and let himself down , he could dig deep and come back stronger and more like he was in 2017 / 2018 .

But he needs to fight more often !
Povetkin in sept 2018 and nothing until now - 8 months out is way too long and during this time all we hear is the BS about Wilder or Fury .

Posted: **03 Jun 2019, 07:19**

stevec@france wrote: ↑03 Jun 2019, 07:02 But the Klitchkos were masters at selecting fighters who were very beatable and also wanted to fight mainly on home soil.

It's almost as if you know nothing about the Klitschko's!

Who did Wladimir "duck"?

Here’s a review of his career:

• Competed in 29 world title fights, winning 25 of them
• Captured the WBA Super, IBF, WBO, IBO & Ring world titles
• A two-time world heavyweight champion
• Has competed against fourteen unbeaten fighters, with nine of them being world title opposition
• Assuming the Ukraine and Germany are classed as his “home” countries, eighteen of his bouts have taken place on foreign soil, including countries such as: USA, Russia, Switzerland, Hungary, United Kingdom, Austria etc.
• 83% of his victories have come by way of knockout
• He is the second longest-reigning heavyweight champion of all-time
• Has faced sixteen current/former world champion
• He is the 1996 super-heavyweight Olympic gold medallist
• Has overcome adversity multiple times throughout his career and also learned from his defeats to become a vastly improved fighter
• Lost only six of the 140 amateur bouts he competed in

Vitali also possesses an impressive resume and regularly competed on foreign soil.

I'm actually a little bit shocked about the bizarre nature of your post!

Posted: **03 Jun 2019, 08:22**

jujigatame wrote: ↑02 Jun 2019, 20:15 There are a lot of parallels. Tall, built like a greek statue, kinda robotic, possessing of major offensive firepower but maybe a little iffy in the chin and stamina departments.

I could definitely see AJ making some adjustments to his style, fighting more conservatively, and going on to have a long, Wlad-esque career.

I agree there are similarities that you mentioned...he still has to prove though he can bounce back and get those belts again like Klitschko...he still has to prove that he can travel AND win like Klitschko...

I'll give him the benefit of the doubt after this first loss in his career..

Posted: **03 Jun 2019, 09:12**

If you believe Joshua is going to lose another 4 times, get decked another 7, stop using his uppercut and combinations altogether, and fight middling opposition for the rest of his career, then yeah I guess AJ is the new Wlad.

Posted: **03 Jun 2019, 09:27**

Wlad was more naturally talented. Joshua more of a natural fighter.

Posted: **03 Jun 2019, 09:29**

Joshua will never be as good as Wladimir was. Not even in that realm.

Posted: **03 Jun 2019, 09:34**

Riddick Blowe wrote: ↑03 Jun 2019, 09:12 If you believe Joshua is going to lose another 4 times, get decked another 7, stop using his uppercut and combinations altogether, and fight middling opposition for the rest of his career, then yeah I guess AJ is the new Wlad.

That's not fair. Wlad fought a ton of tough competition in his career. Hell just compare him to Wilder who took 9 years to fight his first decent opponent.

And yes, I won't be surprised if AJ loses again a few times before his career is done. Everyone in the HW division has power and most will lose at least a few times in their careers.

Posted: **03 Jun 2019, 09:43**

Ricky wrote: ↑03 Jun 2019, 09:29 Joshua will never be as good as Wladimir was. Not even in that realm.

Why are you so enamoured with this ‘jab-em, grab-em robot’ ? Maybe you’re a mechanical engineer? That might explain it?

Posted: **03 Jun 2019, 09:45**

jujigatame wrote: ↑03 Jun 2019, 09:34 That's not fair. Wlad fought a ton of tough competition in his career. Hell just compare him to Wilder who took 9 years to fight his first decent opponent.

And yes, I won't be surprised if AJ loses again a few times before his career is done. Everyone in the HW division has power and most will lose at least a few times in their careers.

I meant more from here on out. AJ and wlad’s resumes are roughly comparable right now, (apart from all the losses wlad has obv) and AJ still has years left to fight. So if Joshua fought middling competition as Wlad did for much of his later years they would finish with similar resumes.

Posted: **03 Jun 2019, 09:50**

Riddick Blowe wrote: ↑03 Jun 2019, 09:43 Why are you so enamoured with this ‘jab-em, grab-em robot’ ? Maybe you’re a mechanical engineer? That might explain it?

Because it was a carefully adapted style that nobody could deny wasn't incredibly effective. His control of range behind a brilliant jab would be tough for anyone in history to break down. I think Wlad would jab a guy like Ruiz into oblivion. AJ just doesn't have skills anywhere near what Wlad had. Especially that left hook Wlad added later in his career that took out Pulev. Levels.

Posted: **03 Jun 2019, 09:55**

Ricky wrote: ↑03 Jun 2019, 09:50 Because it was a carefully adapted style that nobody could deny wasn't incredibly effective. His control of range behind a brilliant jab would be tough for anyone in history to break down. I think Wlad would jab a guy like Ruiz into oblivion. AJ just doesn't have skills anywhere near what Wlad had. Especially that left hook Wlad added later in his career that took out Pulev. Levels.

He had a jab, a hug and a right hand. That’s it. And he stepped back a bit when someone threatened to ruffle his feathers. It was effective against dross. I’ll admit, he did show more vs Joshua , and he was excellent that night. But why did he not show it sooner?

Joshua is a natural aggressor and fights with a full arsenal of jab, right hand, left hook, uppercuts, combinations. Can you not see the difference?

Posted: **03 Jun 2019, 09:58**

Riddick Blowe wrote: ↑03 Jun 2019, 09:55 He had a jab, a hug and a right hand. That’s it. And he stepped back a bit when someone threatened to ruffle his feathers. It was effective against dross.

Joshua is a natural aggressor and fights with a full arsenal of jab, right hand, left hook, uppercuts, combinations. Can you not see the difference?

You're delusional with AJ mate, he's been badly exposed as a european (at best) level fighter trading off the back of exceptional power that's got him much further than his basic ability would usually allow. If you think AJ has a left hook that's anything like Klitchko's I don't know what to tell you.

Posted: **03 Jun 2019, 09:59**

Lackeos wrote: ↑03 Jun 2019, 02:10 Joshua isn't significantly different from Wlad or Lewis. All three were Olympic gold medalists. All three were #1 heavyweights. All three got knocked out. All three were about 6' 6" and buff. Styles were kind of similar, but certainly not identical.

But parallels aside, the others recovered from their losses and commenced reigns as champion. Joshua still has to try to earn that, and he might.

x2....................

Posted: **03 Jun 2019, 10:04**

Ricky wrote: ↑03 Jun 2019, 09:58

You're delusional with AJ mate, he's been badly exposed as a european (at best) level fighter trading off the back of exceptional power that's got him much further than his basic ability would usually allow. If you think AJ has a left hook that's anything like Klitchko's I don't know what to tell you.

Even if you’re not a fan of him, you simply can’t say with any assurance that he won’t come back from this simply because he has already proven himself at the top level. Calling him ‘exposed’ at this stage makes you look like an idiot.

Posted: **03 Jun 2019, 10:11**

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑03 Jun 2019, 07:19 It's almost as if you know nothing about the Klitschko's!

Who did Wladimir "duck"?

Here’s a review of his career:

• Competed in 29 world title fights, winning 25 of them
• Captured the WBA Super, IBF, WBO, IBO & Ring world titles
• A two-time world heavyweight champion
• Has competed against fourteen unbeaten fighters, with nine of them being world title opposition
• Assuming the Ukraine and Germany are classed as his “home” countries, eighteen of his bouts have taken place on foreign soil, including countries such as: USA, Russia, Switzerland, Hungary, United Kingdom, Austria etc.
• 83% of his victories have come by way of knockout
• He is the second longest-reigning heavyweight champion of all-time
• Has faced sixteen current/former world champion
• He is the 1996 super-heavyweight Olympic gold medallist
• Has overcome adversity multiple times throughout his career and also learned from his defeats to become a vastly improved fighter
• Lost only six of the 140 amateur bouts he competed in

Vitali also possesses an impressive resume and regularly competed on foreign soil.

I'm actually a little bit shocked about the bizarre nature of your post!

Just to add:
Wlad did not select all of his opponents, some were mandatories!

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