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Joshua lost to a fat pudding
Posted: 02 Jun 2019, 22:29
by Boxtune
I don't see legacy in him. He should kiss Eddie hearns for protecting him so long and Eddie hearn should kiss Anthony ass for being smart listen and no picking opponents himself.
In several fights we have seen he was gassed badly. Wladimier klitchko fought him at age 40, and joshua is 29 only and i don't see his engine good for no more than couple of years only.
He probably beats Ruiz in rematch, but we difinitly seeing him losing 2 or 3 times more in few years.
Re: Joshua lost to a fat pudding
Posted: 02 Jun 2019, 22:44
by Ricky
Ruiz can be fat if he wants, it's the heavyweights. He displayed an absolutely granite chin. After he got up in r3 AJ drilled him with a long right hand. If Ruiz didn't weigh 268lb that shot would've put him in row Z.
Boxings a game of skill... listening to the casuals harp on about Ruiz' physique since this fight got signed has been cringe-worthy. I'd argue he's more built for the fight game than AJ, clearly the muscle bound stiff can't throw hard shots for more than a few minutes with all that lactic acid.
Re: Joshua lost to a fat pudding
Posted: 02 Jun 2019, 23:15
by Boxtune
This fight reminds me of wlad and young Povetkin . Joshua should grabed and leaned over Ruiz on the inside, and let refree seperate them instead he tried to look impressive. But he was a COMPLETE FOOL trying to exchange with hard punching short hands like TYREX.
It show still Anthony joushua is an amateur with good chin and good power. Wladmier dominated heavyweight division with a weak chin and good brain for more than a decade.
Re: Joshua lost to a fat pudding
Posted: 02 Jun 2019, 23:53
by ironbeard
That “fat pudding” ain’t afraid of anybody.
Re: Joshua lost to a fat pudding
Posted: 03 Jun 2019, 00:09
by Boxtune
ironbeard wrote: ↑02 Jun 2019, 23:53
That “fat pudding” ain’t afraid of anybody.
that fat pudding no mike tyson or David tua. Btw he is 6 ft tall. You can kiss my ass if think he is 6'2" tall . AJ looked ridiculous in there .
Re: Joshua lost to a fat pudding
Posted: 03 Jun 2019, 00:44
by ironbeard
Boxtune wrote: ↑03 Jun 2019, 00:09
that fat pudding no mike tyson or David tua. Btw he is 6 ft tall. You can kiss my ass if think he is 6'2" tall . AJ looked ridiculous in there .
Of course he isn’t. But, he is The Man at this time.
Re: Joshua lost to a fat pudding
Posted: 03 Jun 2019, 05:41
by Bard of Boxrec
Boxtune wrote: ↑02 Jun 2019, 22:29
I don't see legacy in him. He should kiss Eddie hearns for protecting him so long and Eddie hearn should kiss Anthony ass for being smart listen and no picking opponents himself.
In several fights we have seen he was gassed badly. Wladimier klitchko fought him at age 40, and joshua is 29 only and i don't see his engine good for no more than couple of years only.
He probably beats Ruiz in rematch, but we difinitly seeing him losing 2 or 3 times more in few years.
That’s ok buddy. You’re new to boxing. Everyone has to start somewhere.
Re: Joshua lost to a fat pudding
Posted: 03 Jun 2019, 06:55
by DrDuke
Ruiz isn't just a fat pudding. He's tough mentally, has good handspeed and solid punching power. He's real deal, he should have been given the belt even earlier, after he whooped Parker. Of course, he was an underdog for the reason, but that didn't mean, that he absolutely sucked. His body is deceptive indeed. The same with Kownacki btw.
Re: Joshua lost to a fat pudding
Posted: 03 Jun 2019, 09:27
by candyslim
Ricky wrote: ↑02 Jun 2019, 22:44
Ruiz can be fat if he wants, it's the heavyweights. He displayed an absolutely granite chin. After he got up in r3 AJ drilled him with a long right hand. If Ruiz didn't weigh 268lb that shot would've put him in row Z.
Boxings a game of skill... listening to the casuals harp on about Ruiz' physique since this fight got signed has been cringe-worthy. I'd argue he's more built for the fight game than AJ, clearly the muscle bound stiff can't throw hard shots for more than a few minutes with all that lactic acid.
Yeah muscles might look impressive but over development in that area is no use to a boxer. As you say it's the lactic acid build up that kills 'em. Saw it with Bruno and many others besides.
Re: Joshua lost to a fat pudding
Posted: 03 Jun 2019, 12:33
by BumLicker
Fat Pudding with a 105-5 amateur record & hands like..
so not all bad.
Can you shallow imbeciles stop being so well...shallow.
Re: Joshua lost to a fat pudding
Posted: 03 Jun 2019, 13:13
by Boxtune
Andy Ruiz record is garbage ... he was never a KO artist. I hope he does well , else joushua stock goes DOWN THE TOILET .
Re: Joshua lost to a fat pudding
Posted: 03 Jun 2019, 13:22
by diddy
This type of comment is short sighted. Boxing isnt about appearance. Its about skills and desire. Ruiz does have both. If you give him openings and neglect defense and allow him to fight on the inside he can be very effective.
Re: Joshua lost to a fat pudding
Posted: 03 Jun 2019, 13:26
by Tony1244
To paraphrase Leon Spinks (which isn't done often) Ruiz "may not be the Greatest, but he is the Latest."
Re: Joshua lost to a fat pudding
Posted: 03 Jun 2019, 13:29
by Tony1244
Boxtune wrote: ↑03 Jun 2019, 13:13
Andy Ruiz record is garbage ... he was never a KO artist. I hope he does well , else joushua stock goes DOWN THE TOILET .
It's not exactly garbage, jeez.
Re: Joshua lost to a fat pudding
Posted: 03 Jun 2019, 13:44
by HomicideHenry
And you expected a guy who hadn't fought in nine months to not get in trouble?
You expected a guy who was expecting to fight someone else, only to be thrown a substitute with four weeks to go, wouldn't be in trouble?
Re: Joshua lost to a fat pudding
Posted: 03 Jun 2019, 13:53
by imaioral
Re: Joshua lost to a fat pudding
Posted: 03 Jun 2019, 14:12
by Seamus
Is Ruiz our fattest champion ever ? I strongly suspect he is. When a guy who look's like he lives on fast food and seldom works out can knock Joshua on his cut and finely chiseled ass 4 times, we're going to be laughing about it awhile.
Re: Joshua lost to a fat pudding
Posted: 03 Jun 2019, 14:13
by HomicideHenry
Seamus wrote: ↑03 Jun 2019, 14:12
Is Ruiz our fattest champion ever ? I strongly suspect he is. When a guy who look's like he lives on fast food and seldom works out can knock Joshua on his cut and finely chiseled ass 4 times, we're going to be laughing about awhile.
Tony Tubbs is a strong candidate.
Re: Joshua lost to a fat pudding
Posted: 03 Jun 2019, 14:15
by DrDuke
Botha also was a champ, but he was stripped of the belt for PEDs, as I remember.
Re: Joshua lost to a fat pudding
Posted: 03 Jun 2019, 15:00
by SenorPipino
Seamus wrote: ↑03 Jun 2019, 14:12
Is Ruiz our fattest champion ever ? I strongly suspect he is. When a guy who look's like he lives on fast food and seldom works out can knock Joshua on his cut and finely chiseled ass 4 times, we're going to be laughing about it awhile.
He's certainly not the heaviest. Valuev far outweighed Ruiz.
Would you consider Big Baby Miller as fatter than Ruiz? He outweighs him considerably but looks much more svelte anyways.
Re: Joshua lost to a fat pudding
Posted: 03 Jun 2019, 15:03
by DrDuke
I guess, "fat" is more defined by the proportion of fat to muscles, not by the numbers. Valuev was just too big. Miller has a mix of muscles and fat. Ruiz is purely fat. Kownacki is fat as well.
Re: Joshua lost to a fat pudding
Posted: 03 Jun 2019, 15:10
by SenorPipino
DrDuke wrote: ↑03 Jun 2019, 15:03
I guess, "fat" is more defined by the proportion of fat to muscles, not by the numbers. Valuev was just too big. Miller has a mix of muscles and fat. Ruiz is purely fat. Kownacki is fat as well.
Yeah, Ruiz and Kownascki are somewhat gross looking. Even worse than those out of shape 1980's heavyweights.
Miller has usually carried his weight pretty well, even at over 300 lbs.
Re: Joshua lost to a fat pudding
Posted: 03 Jun 2019, 15:23
by ironbeard
I wonder how many fat dudes (worldwide) have sprained their wrists or busted their knuckles punching bags without proper wraps since Saturday night?
Re: Joshua lost to a fat pudding
Posted: 03 Jun 2019, 15:42
by candyslim
HomicideHenry wrote: ↑03 Jun 2019, 14:13
Tony Tubbs is a strong candidate.
Buster Mathis weighed over 300. Could move really well too that guy.
Re: Joshua lost to a fat pudding
Posted: 03 Jun 2019, 16:43
by gilgamesh
candyslim wrote: ↑03 Jun 2019, 09:27
Yeah muscles might look impressive but over development in that area is no use to a boxer. As you say it's the lactic acid build up that kills 'em. Saw it with Bruno and many others besides.
Yeah. As far as Boxing is concerned the lean muscle of a Deontay Wilder is much better for your handspeed, and stamina than the body builder physique of an Anthony Joshua. It's really not to your benefit in any way really to have that kinda build as a boxer. I'm sure he could outmuscle guys on the inside, but here lately he hasn't been fighting on the inside so it's really just no help at all.