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Ruiz: "I call the shots now!"

Posted: 05 Jun 2019, 22:11
by HomicideHenry
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"I'm the champ now I call the shots!"

Ruiz saying he wants the fight in Los Angeles or Mexico.

Also, did anyone else notice on Kimmel that Ruiz only came to the show with two belts instead of three?

Re: Ruiz: "I call the shots now!"

Posted: 06 Jun 2019, 00:13
by KiwiRider
Well, he mustn't be worried about the money because it seems to me that holding the fight in the UK would generate the most.
I also don't think he actually does call all the shots.
Without knowing the fine print in the contract he signed, anything regarding who call the shots is just conjecture.
Dunno about the missing belt :maybe:

Re: Ruiz: "I call the shots now!"

Posted: 06 Jun 2019, 04:32
by dbf
Re: the belts - he probably hasn't recieved the IBF and IBO belts yet. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if he was borrowing someone elses WBA and WBO ones ala Fury when he used Khans for his homecoming press conference after defeating Wlad.

Re: Ruiz: "I call the shots now!"

Posted: 06 Jun 2019, 04:34
by mullenman
Ruiz calls zero shots as the contract he signed calls the shots.

Re: Ruiz: "I call the shots now!"

Posted: 06 Jun 2019, 07:13
by northern
He can say he calls the shots but at the end of the day, he signed that contract so he has little to no choice but to fight Anthony Joshua again.
He has some say in where it happens, but more then likely it will be in the UK or in America if Hearn wants to risk it again, otherwise I'd say Mexico or anywhere Ruiz would have the crowd advantage wouldn't be an option.

Also, it depends if all of the World organisations follow up with the rematch,
The IBF have been difficult in the past with mandatory defences (Joshua vs Pulev - eventually Takam and Kell Brook's various defences).
I can't imagine the WBA would have any problem with it as they're already trying to resolve their 'World' title this year, their 'super world' title shouldn't be a problem with such a big rematch.
The IBO isn't highly regarded and they don't normally make many problems when it comes to genuine world title fights so it'll be down to if both promoters want to have the belt as part of the event.
The WBO hasn't been a major problem in regards to title defences over the years so I don't imagine they'd have any problem with the rematch.

Re: Ruiz: "I call the shots now!"

Posted: 07 Jun 2019, 08:49
by ironbeard
We will see, but it is unlikely that a specific country / venue was in the rematch clause.

Dallas, San Antonio, or even El Paso make sense. Sh!t will sellout a stadium in Mexico or any US / Mexico border state.

Re: Ruiz: "I call the shots now!"

Posted: 07 Jun 2019, 08:51
by stujones
I disagree, he can call ALL the shots IMO...... if he is not satisfied with the terms of the rematch and gets stripped and AJ picks up vacant titles - who is really going to see AJ as a champion.

No one can force Ruiz to fight and for AJ to be seen as close to the "man" again he must fight and beat Ruiz - he can fight whoever he wants for vacant titles - he won't be seen as the man until he beats Ruiz.

Re: Ruiz: "I call the shots now!"

Posted: 07 Jun 2019, 08:54
by ironbeard
stujones wrote: 07 Jun 2019, 08:51 I disagree, he can call ALL the shots IMO...... if he is not satisfied with the terms of the rematch and gets stripped and AJ picks up vacant titles - who is really going to see AJ as a champion.

No one can force Ruiz to fight and for AJ to be seen as close to the "man" again he must fight and beat Ruiz - he can fight whoever he wants for vacant titles - he won't be seen as the man until he beats Ruiz.
TFKoB beat The Man. He is now THE MAN to beat. :OhYes:

Re: Ruiz: "I call the shots now!"

Posted: 07 Jun 2019, 10:52
by jamamb
i imagine for not honouring a rematch clause there would be legal penalties andnot simply belt loss. depends if al is willing to pay those. ruiz likely would get big money for rematching a guy he already beat, sounds like a good deal.

him having all the belts for an in house pbc wud also make any fight vs wilder bigger. hell rematch

Re: Ruiz: "I call the shots now!"

Posted: 07 Jun 2019, 11:11
by ironbeard
jamamb wrote: 07 Jun 2019, 10:52 i imagine for not honouring a rematch clause there would be legal penalties andnot simply belt loss. depends if al is willing to pay those. ruiz likely would get big money for rematching a guy he already beat, sounds like a good deal.

him having all the belts for an in house pbc wud also make any fight vs wilder bigger. hell rematch
I would prefer that AJ pass and TFKoB takes the place of Ortiz in AT&T Stadium (Dallas Cowboys). It would do over 100,000.

Re: Ruiz: "I call the shots now!"

Posted: 07 Jun 2019, 11:15
by overhand_right
stujones wrote: 07 Jun 2019, 08:51 I disagree, he can call ALL the shots IMO...... if he is not satisfied with the terms of the rematch and gets stripped and AJ picks up vacant titles - who is really going to see AJ as a champion.

No one can force Ruiz to fight and for AJ to be seen as close to the "man" again he must fight and beat Ruiz - he can fight whoever he wants for vacant titles - he won't be seen as the man until he beats Ruiz.
Eddie will put together AJ vs Charles Martin II for the vacant belts. Good times are here again!

Re: Ruiz: "I call the shots now!"

Posted: 07 Jun 2019, 11:26
by stujones
overhand_right wrote: 07 Jun 2019, 11:15 Eddie will put together AJ vs Charles Martin II for the vacant belts. Good times are here again!
Nobody is going to believe them this time...... unless Ruiz goes on a bender and remains inactive (not beyond the realms).... but there is also Fury and Wilder with much better claims than when AJ first unified the belts. Nobody bought that Charles Martin was a world champion - but by the time AJ fought Klitchsko, Fury had been so inactive there was a case for a "vacant" "true" champion.

Re: Ruiz: "I call the shots now!"

Posted: 07 Jun 2019, 12:17
by jamamb
no point in talking about aj vs martin 2, it will be aj vs ruiz 2

Re: Ruiz: "I call the shots now!"

Posted: 07 Jun 2019, 15:27
by ewenhay
jamamb wrote: 07 Jun 2019, 10:52 i imagine for not honouring a rematch clause there would be legal penalties andnot simply belt loss. depends if al is willing to pay those. ruiz likely would get big money for rematching a guy he already beat, sounds like a good deal.

him having all the belts for an in house pbc wud also make any fight vs wilder bigger. hell rematch
It's a contract law thing rather than a belt thing. The IBF have demonstrated by stripping champions that they don't recognise rematches unless it suits them.

Re: Ruiz: "I call the shots now!"

Posted: 08 Jun 2019, 09:39
by brilo33
i think aj has to fight him in america , go take them belts back, also the american fans you where trying to promote your self too,wont bat an eye lid if it is in the uk , also no home town decision if you dont get the job done

Re: Ruiz: "I call the shots now!"

Posted: 08 Jun 2019, 10:55
by Coco
Hearn has now hinted that the rematch might not be in Britain.
Is this a suggestion that he doesn't hold all the cards in terms of choosing a venue?

Re: Ruiz: "I call the shots now!"

Posted: 08 Jun 2019, 11:03
by brilo33
The thing if it was a close call on the cards .I could understand saying fight in the UK. But the manor of the lost . Aj has to fight the rematch in America I think.and also he will get no credit if he wins in the UK from the world.be all .he can only fight in the UK and everything else

Re: Ruiz: "I call the shots now!"

Posted: 08 Jun 2019, 11:05
by Coco
brilo33 wrote: 08 Jun 2019, 11:03 The thing if it was a close call on the cards .I could understand saying fight in the UK. But the manor of the lost . Aj has to fight the rematch in America I think.and also he will get no credit if he wins in the UK from the world.be all .he can only fight in the UK and everything else
Getting the belts back is worth more than credit!

Re: Ruiz: "I call the shots now!"

Posted: 08 Jun 2019, 11:07
by brilo33
Coco wrote: 08 Jun 2019, 11:05 Getting the belts back is worth more than credit!
Very true.

Re: Ruiz: "I call the shots now!"

Posted: 08 Jun 2019, 13:21
by MasterG
Ruiz wants 40 million dollars to fight in the UK.

Can the fight generated such money?

Biggest fight ever staged in the UK?

Wembley can hold 90k.

Re: Ruiz: "I call the shots now!"

Posted: 08 Jun 2019, 13:50
by Nightmare Roy
MasterG wrote: 08 Jun 2019, 13:21 Ruiz wants 40 million dollars to fight in the UK.

Can the fight generated such money?

Biggest fight ever staged in the UK?

Wembley can hold 90k.
It’ll be a huge fight but AJ is gonna want a fortune too, can’t see it making that kind of money

Re: Ruiz: "I call the shots now!"

Posted: 08 Jun 2019, 13:51
by rd350lc
MasterG wrote: 08 Jun 2019, 13:21 Ruiz wants 40 million dollars to fight in the UK.

Can the fight generated such money?

Biggest fight ever staged in the UK?

Wembley can hold 90k.
I ain't up on stadiums, but if Wembley hasn't got a roof it won't be much good in the winter when they talk about staging it .
Millennium in Wales most likely ??

Re: Ruiz: "I call the shots now!"

Posted: 08 Jun 2019, 13:56
by tobyh5
Nightmare Roy wrote: 08 Jun 2019, 13:50 It’ll be a huge fight but AJ is gonna want a fortune too, can’t see it making that kind of money
Hearn is saying that Ruiz can posture a bit but the terms, including money for the rematch, was signed at the outset of the first fight

Re: Ruiz: "I call the shots now!"

Posted: 08 Jun 2019, 13:59
by tony1234
Will the casuals come out to support him now the bubble has burst ?

Re: Ruiz: "I call the shots now!"

Posted: 08 Jun 2019, 14:03
by jamamb
i expect a rematch to be huge, imo if he loses that though it will be a much bigger blow

anyone saying the casuals have gone----will he only be able to draw under 10k next fight if its in the uk?