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GGG on AJ: " It was his first fight at Madison Square Garden, first fight with different doping-test procedures" ??
Posted: 06 Jun 2019, 13:03
by apollo creed
“You can look at various elements, various links, so to speak, in this chain,” Golovkin said, according to his translator, before a press conference for his own fight Saturday night at The Garden. “First of all, it was his first fight in the United States. It was his first fight at Madison Square Garden, first fight with different doping-test procedures.
It will probably be a big lesson, an important lesson for Joshua to learn. And also, I know Andy Ruiz. I trained together with him. So, I’m not surprised about this outcome of this fight.”
“It’s difficult to say what exactly happened because I was not part of the Joshua team,” Golovkin said. “What I can say is he looked terrible in this last fight, Joshua did. … Looking [at it] impartially and objectively, Joshua was terrible. It was his terrible day. Ruiz was great. It was his great day. That’s how you can judge this.” @BS
Interesting stuff from GGG.
Re: GGG on AJ: " It was his first fight at Madison Square Garden, first fight with different doping-test procedures" ??
Posted: 06 Jun 2019, 13:13
by Enlightened-One
AJ has been tested by VADA for years. FACT!

Re: GGG on AJ: " It was his first fight at Madison Square Garden, first fight with different doping-test procedures" ??
Posted: 06 Jun 2019, 14:38
by apollo creed
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑06 Jun 2019, 13:13
AJ has been tested by VADA for years. FACT!
Ok but what GGG wanted to say with "First of all, it was his first fight
in the United States. It was his first fight at Madison Square Garden, first fight
with different doping-test procedures." ??
It's more rigorous vada testing in U.S ?
AJ recovered well after Whyte and Wlad hit him, who are known as big punchers but he didn't recover after Ruiz hit him ?!

Re: GGG on AJ: " It was his first fight at Madison Square Garden, first fight with different doping-test procedures" ??
Posted: 06 Jun 2019, 14:40
by jamamb
he got overeager to finish and got caught on the temple with a shot he didnt really recover from, doesnt seem like a ped issue
Re: GGG on AJ: " It was his first fight at Madison Square Garden, first fight with different doping-test procedures" ??
Posted: 06 Jun 2019, 14:43
by paddy chavez
I think dillian Whyte said something similar that AJ couldn't get his normal drugs out there.
Re: GGG on AJ: " It was his first fight at Madison Square Garden, first fight with different doping-test procedures" ??
Posted: 06 Jun 2019, 14:45
by apollo creed
jamamb wrote: ↑06 Jun 2019, 14:40
he got overeager to finish and got caught on the temple with a shot he didnt really recover from, doesnt seem like a ped issue
Wlad caught AJ pretty well too. Ruiz's fat T-Rex hands must be very heavy.
Re: GGG on AJ: " It was his first fight at Madison Square Garden, first fight with different doping-test procedures" ??
Posted: 06 Jun 2019, 14:46
by jamamb
not every punch is the same, there isnt a perfect relationship between who has hurt a fighter the most and who is the biggest puncher
Re: GGG on AJ: " It was his first fight at Madison Square Garden, first fight with different doping-test procedures" ??
Posted: 06 Jun 2019, 14:47
by apollo creed
paddy chavez wrote: ↑06 Jun 2019, 14:43
I think dillian Whyte said something similar that AJ couldn't get his normal drugs out there.
lol Truth is AJ looked lost vs Ruiz. His 'boxing mind' was in survival mode.
Re: GGG on AJ: " It was his first fight at Madison Square Garden, first fight with different doping-test procedures" ??
Posted: 06 Jun 2019, 14:51
by apollo creed
jamamb wrote: ↑06 Jun 2019, 14:46
not every punch is the same, there isnt a perfect relationship between who has hurt a fighter the most and who is the biggest puncher
Agree, no doubt about that but Ruiz wasn't established as a big puncher but Wlad was. Also AJ was supposed to be super trained in the straight and conditioning department.
Re: GGG on AJ: " It was his first fight at Madison Square Garden, first fight with different doping-test procedures" ??
Posted: 06 Jun 2019, 14:52
by ewenhay
Not sure this latest conspiracy theory will go down as well as the previous ones........
Re: GGG on AJ: " It was his first fight at Madison Square Garden, first fight with different doping-test procedures" ??
Posted: 06 Jun 2019, 15:34
by apollo creed
ewenhay wrote: ↑06 Jun 2019, 14:52
Not sure this latest conspiracy theory will go down as well as the previous ones........
If some fighters put a question mark about peds&testing then there is no smoke wothout fire.
Re: GGG on AJ: " It was his first fight at Madison Square Garden, first fight with different doping-test procedures" ??
Posted: 06 Jun 2019, 15:41
by SenorPipino
paddy chavez wrote: ↑06 Jun 2019, 14:43
I think dillian Whyte said something similar that AJ couldn't get his normal drugs out there.
If it was true, wouldn't Joshua have known something that important beforehand and have it taken care of by time he arrived in the US?
You would think the heavy weight champion could just snap his fingers and get what he wants.
This fight sure brought out all the conspiracy theorists.
Re: GGG on AJ: " It was his first fight at Madison Square Garden, first fight with different doping-test procedures" ??
Posted: 06 Jun 2019, 15:52
by greg
apollo creed wrote: ↑06 Jun 2019, 13:03
“You can look at various elements, various links, so to speak, in this chain,” Golovkin said, according to his translator, before a press conference for his own fight Saturday night at The Garden. “First of all, it was his first fight in the United States. It was his first fight at Madison Square Garden, first fight with different doping-test procedures.
It will probably be a big lesson, an important lesson for Joshua to learn. And also, I know Andy Ruiz. I trained together with him. So, I’m not surprised about this outcome of this fight.”
“It’s difficult to say what exactly happened because I was not part of the Joshua team,” Golovkin said. “What I can say is he looked terrible in this last fight, Joshua did. … Looking [at it] impartially and objectively, Joshua was terrible. It was his terrible day. Ruiz was great. It was his great day. That’s how you can judge this.” @BS
Interesting stuff from GGG.
is there a link/footage because I think I saw this interview (can't find it now) and I don't remember GGG saying
"first fight with different doping-test procedures."..
Re: GGG on AJ: " It was his first fight at Madison Square Garden, first fight with different doping-test procedures" ??
Posted: 06 Jun 2019, 16:25
by apollo creed
SenorPipino wrote: ↑06 Jun 2019, 15:41
If it was true, wouldn't Joshua have known something that important beforehand and have it taken care of by time he arrived in the US?
You would think the heavy weight champion could just snap his fingers and get what he wants.
This fight sure brought out all the conspiracy theorists.
Probably for such a 'harmless' opponent like Ruiz it would've not worthed the risk to take something juicy on foreign ground.

Re: GGG on AJ: " It was his first fight at Madison Square Garden, first fight with different doping-test procedures" ??
Posted: 06 Jun 2019, 16:33
by Enlightened-One
apollo creed wrote: ↑06 Jun 2019, 14:38
Ok but what GGG wanted to say with "First of all, it was his first fight
in the United States. It was his first fight at Madison Square Garden, first fight
with different doping-test procedures." ??
It's more rigorous vada testing in U.S ?
AJ recovered well after Whyte and Wlad hit him, who are known as big punchers but he didn't recover after Ruiz hit him ?!
VADA testing is VADA testing. It’s random unannounced everywhere, with the rules applied consistently regardless the location.
Do you think I’m wrong, seriously!?!?
If so, then bring it on!!!

Re: GGG on AJ: " It was his first fight at Madison Square Garden, first fight with different doping-test procedures" ??
Posted: 07 Jun 2019, 12:39
by apollo creed
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑06 Jun 2019, 16:33
VADA testing is VADA testing. It’s random unannounced everywhere, with the rules applied consistently regardless the location.
Do you think I’m wrong, seriously!?!?
If so, then bring it on!!!
"
with different doping-test procedures" - Explain me this quote, please! Maybe GGG as a tested fighter doesn't know very well about these doping-test procedures?!

Re: GGG on AJ: " It was his first fight at Madison Square Garden, first fight with different doping-test procedures" ??
Posted: 07 Jun 2019, 12:47
by Enlightened-One
apollo creed wrote: ↑07 Jun 2019, 12:39
"
with different doping-test procedures" - Explain me this quote, please! Maybe GGG as a tested fighter doesn't know very well about these doping-test procedures?!
I don't care about GGG's words, since he has no affiliation with Team Joshua.
GGG has never undergone VADA testing in the UK under the WBA’s ‘Fair Boxing Program’.
The VADA website clearly states that AJ has been tested since 2017, shortly before he claimed the WBA world title by beating Wladimir Klitschko.
AJ says he has been regularly tested by VADA since 2017.
VADA says that they have regularly tested AJ since 2017.
AJ spends £40K per year to be tested by VADA.
AJ is tested by UKAD also.
AJ has also been enrolled in the ADAMS whereabouts (drug testing scheme) since 2012.
Do you still think AJ is doing his upmost to avoid being tested for PED's? That's a serious question!
I assume you couldn't be bothered to review the VADA website or perform any research yourself to fact-check the validity of GGG's claims?
I look forward to your rebuttal!

Re: GGG on AJ: " It was his first fight at Madison Square Garden, first fight with different doping-test procedures" ??
Posted: 07 Jun 2019, 13:29
by apollo creed
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑07 Jun 2019, 12:47
I don't care about GGG's words, since he has no affiliation with Team Joshua.
GGG has never undergone VADA testing in the UK under the WBA’s ‘Fair Boxing Program’.
The VADA website clearly states that AJ has been tested since 2017, shortly before he claimed the WBA world title by beating Wladimir Klitschko.
AJ says he has been regularly tested by VADA since 2017.
VADA says that they have regularly tested AJ since 2017.
AJ spends £40K per year to be tested by VADA.
AJ is tested by UKAD also.
AJ has also been enrolled in the ADAMS whereabouts (drug testing scheme) since 2012.
Do you still think AJ is doing his upmost to avoid being tested for PED's? That's a serious question!
I assume you couldn't be bothered to review the VADA website or perform any research yourself to fact-check the validity of GGG's claims?
I look forward to your rebuttal!
Damn EO you are 24/7 lurking on this forum.
EO, have you ever been tested by vada or do you know personally someone who is tested?
Re: GGG on AJ: " It was his first fight at Madison Square Garden, first fight with different doping-test procedures" ??
Posted: 07 Jun 2019, 13:30
by Enlightened-One
apollo creed wrote: ↑07 Jun 2019, 13:29
Damn EO you are 24/7 lurking on this forum.
EO, have you ever been tested by vada or do you know personally someone who is tested?
Thank you for the easy victory!
