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HomicideHenry wrote: ↑10 Jun 2019, 11:37 If we're talking Jimmy Young from 1974-1977, Tommy Morrison doesn't have much of a shot beating him. If Shavers could only manage a draw, Foreman lost a decision, as did Ron Lyle, Ali had to be gifted a decision, and Norton arguably was also gifted a decision.... No way is Morrison winning.

Now Young from 1978-1990, Morrison absolutely knocks the snot out of him. If Cooney, Ocasio, Tubbs, Tucker, Page, Dokes, etc could do it so could Morrison.

HomicideHenry wrote: ↑10 Jun 2019, 12:03 Ron Lyle was in my view a good boxer. Outside of his power, he could put combinations together and he could set up trap's. He wasn't just a banger. From memory, he was beating Ali on the scorecards before getting stopped.

Shavers was just mind blowing in power. Outside of that he wasn't all that good. He had stamina issues. He was prone to cuts. He could be out fought or out boxed, as Quarry and Holmes shown. But all he needed was one shot more times than not. If you could survive the first few rounds you had a helluva chance.

DrDuke wrote: ↑10 Jun 2019, 11:06 Young would be more likely to outbox Morrison, unless Tommy got to him with some clean bombs.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑10 Jun 2019, 17:40 Tommy was fast and strong. I don't think laying on the ropes would work out well for Jimmy.

Cojimar 1946 wrote: ↑11 Jun 2019, 14:19 Morrison was basically a gatekeeper. When he stepped up he lost badly. What is there on his resume to suggest he poses any sort of threat to Young?

oogiebe wrote: ↑11 Jun 2019, 14:24 He was masterful and stuck to a game plan against Foreman. He had some really good performances. Young was overrated.

Cojimar 1946 wrote: ↑11 Jun 2019, 14:31 Not against quality opposition. I hardly think outboxing that version of Foreman tells us much. Axel Schultz outboxed Foreman only to get robbed by the judges. Does Axel Schultz also beat Jimmy Young?

Jimmy Young has quality wins and during his prime nothing comparable to the Purrity and Bentt debacles

Cojimar 1946 wrote: ↑11 Jun 2019, 14:19 I think Morrison is pretty overrated. Not only did he lose whenever he stepped up in competition but he frequently struggled with inferior opposition.

Were talking about a guy who couldn't do better than draw with Ross Purrity (while getting decked twice)
who lost to Michael Bentt.
who got dropped multiple times by a shot Carl Williams.

Do people think Jimmy Young loses to Michael Bentt and Ross Purrity?

jamamb wrote: ↑11 Jun 2019, 14:35 i dont think tommy gets rated high enough to be overrated tbh, most ppl know he was athletically gifted with some explosivness to his speed and power, but very flawed overall

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑11 Jun 2019, 14:49 He's underrated. Where as cooney who Tommy was better then, is overly romanticized. Both were vulnerable but Morrison brought more to the table and accomplished.

HomicideHenry wrote: ↑11 Jun 2019, 16:22 Bentt actually had potential and ability. He just didn't really love the game. Like Buster Douglas. "I'm a fighter not an athlete," type of mentality.

Purity, I think is somewhat underrated. He wasn't as horrible as people made him out to be. Sure his greatest attribute was toughness, but he was a very well conditioned man who could bang back. He was a spoiler, sorta like Bert Cooper. Maybe not as good, but not too far off.

HomicideHenry wrote: ↑11 Jun 2019, 16:22 Bentt actually had potential and ability. He just didn't really love the game. Like Buster Douglas. "I'm a fighter not an athlete," type of mentality.

Purity, I think is somewhat underrated. He wasn't as horrible as people made him out to be. Sure his greatest attribute was toughness, but he was a very well conditioned man who could bang back. He was a spoiler, sorta like Bert Cooper. Maybe not as good, but not too far off.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑11 Jun 2019, 16:56 Wlad knows Ross didn't suck. Cooper was much better and much less dedicated.

oogiebe wrote: ↑11 Jun 2019, 18:58 LOL! That he did!