Question: How are the rankings affected by Tyson Fury's (#1) KO 2 win over Tom Schwarz (unranked, BoxRec's #56)
My vote: Fury remains at #1, Schwarz remains unranked.
This voting will last until 22.06.2019.
Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking update - Fury vs Schwarz
Posted: 16 Jun 2019, 02:29
by DrDuke
Well, today everything is too obvious. The Gypsy King remains on top, Schwarz remains out of the top 15.
Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking update - Fury vs Schwarz
Posted: 16 Jun 2019, 03:18
by tiny_acres
No change
No surprise
Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking update - Fury vs Schwarz
Posted: 16 Jun 2019, 03:22
by KiwiRider
If it was a 12 round snoozer, there might be an argument to drop Fury a place, but since he obliterated whatsaname, I think he stays at #1
Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking update - Fury vs Schwarz
Posted: 16 Jun 2019, 03:23
by greg
No brainer
No change
Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking update - Fury vs Schwarz
Posted: 16 Jun 2019, 03:25
by HomicideHenry
No change. Fury solidly at number one.
Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking update - Fury vs Schwarz
Posted: 16 Jun 2019, 03:50
by Onetimeonly
Fury to #2, Schwartz to 112.
Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking update - Fury vs Schwarz
Posted: 16 Jun 2019, 03:53
by ironbeard
Fury to #3. Shwortz to the washing machine.
Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking update - Fury vs Schwarz
Posted: 16 Jun 2019, 04:45
by HomicideHenry
ironbeard wrote: β16 Jun 2019, 03:53
Fury to #3. Shwortz to the washing machine.
So.... You would drop Ali down the rankings when he fought guys like Coopman? Or when Louis fought Davis? Aren't people entitled to fight an easy one now and then and still be regarded as number one?
Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking update - Fury vs Schwarz
Posted: 16 Jun 2019, 04:49
by jamamb
i imagine anyone dropping fury down now prob thinks he shouldve been lower then 1 to start, they arent necessarly demoting him in there own rankings
Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking update - Fury vs Schwarz
Posted: 16 Jun 2019, 04:55
by Onetimeonly
jamamb wrote: β16 Jun 2019, 04:49
i imagine anyone dropping fury down now prob thinks he shouldve been lower then 1 to start, they arent necessarly demoting him in there own rankings
Yeah, I can't understand why you should change your opinion to please the popular vote. Though our leader is losing his shit, lol, wouldn't be surprised if he bolts.
Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking update - Fury vs Schwarz
Posted: 16 Jun 2019, 05:42
by joshj909
No change
Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking update - Fury vs Schwarz
Posted: 16 Jun 2019, 07:22
by ewenhay
No change.
Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking update - Fury vs Schwarz
Posted: 16 Jun 2019, 07:47
by Lennox
Obviously no change. People are not respecting the existing democratic ranking.
Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking update - Fury vs Schwarz
Posted: 16 Jun 2019, 07:47
by Lennox
Obviously no change. People are not respecting the existing democratic ranking.
Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking update - Fury vs Schwarz
Posted: 16 Jun 2019, 08:17
by ewenhay
I did consider whether Fury (or anyone else for that matter) should drop places for facing substandard opposition. If he'd struggled then I might have done.
Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking update - Fury vs Schwarz
Posted: 16 Jun 2019, 08:28
by greg
ewenhay wrote: β16 Jun 2019, 08:17
I did consider whether Fury (or anyone else for that matter) should drop places for facing substandard opposition. If he'd struggled then I might have done.
...generally speaking I support this idea..in this case though, Tyson basically annihilated his opponent, plus you can't move him down because the next one in line is WIlder who according to the majority fans and experts lost to Tyson..
Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking update - Fury vs Schwarz
Posted: 16 Jun 2019, 09:26
by ewenhay
greg wrote: β16 Jun 2019, 08:28
...generally speaking I support this idea..in this case though, Tyson basically annihilated his opponent, plus you can't move him down because the next one in line is WIlder who according to the majority fans and experts lost to Tyson..
Yeah he was excellent albeit against poor opposition. He's light years ahead of Wilder and Joshua ability wise. But he always was. Furys got to walk the walk consistently now. If he stays in good health I think he will.
Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking update - Fury vs Schwarz
Posted: 16 Jun 2019, 09:36
by greg
ewenhay wrote: β16 Jun 2019, 09:26
Yeah he was excellent albeit against poor opposition. He's light years ahead of Wilder and Joshua ability wise. But he always was. Furys got to walk the walk consistently now. If he stays in good health I think he will.
..speaking of his mental state I just came across this interview. ..a couple of things there I've never heard before:
Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking update - Fury vs Schwarz
Posted: 16 Jun 2019, 09:49
by ewenhay
That's why I think things can never be guaranteed with Fury. I'm delighted that he feels good about himself and I hope his mental health issues are behind him. The thing with anxiety and depression is that you really don't know how you're going to feel the next day until you wake up in the morning
Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking update - Fury vs Schwarz
Posted: 16 Jun 2019, 10:01
by oogiebe
No change.
Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking update - Fury vs Schwarz
Schwarz, as I stated yesterday, looked better in old youtube clips than I expected. but then again, I don't look too bad against a heavy bag.
Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking update - Fury vs Schwarz
Posted: 16 Jun 2019, 11:07
by Ilya Muromets
Tony1244 wrote: β16 Jun 2019, 10:53
Schwarz, as I stated yesterday, looked better in old youtube clips than I expected. but then again, I don't look too bad against a heavy bag.
Ha ha! I was hoping that Schwarz would be able to put up a better fight, but damn Fury was awesome...which brings me back again to the heavyweight weight classification because a guy like me, if i was still boxing, at 6' around 210, or Usyk when he turns heavy, has to be in the same division as giants like Fury. 6'6" 246 pound Schwarz looked small next to him!
Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking update - Fury vs Schwarz
Posted: 16 Jun 2019, 11:13
by ewenhay
Ilya Muromets wrote: β16 Jun 2019, 11:07
Ha ha! I was hoping that Schwarz would be able to put up a better fight, but damn Fury was awesome...which brings me back again to the heavyweight weight classification because a guy like me, if i was still boxing, at 6' around 210, or Usyk when he turns heavy, has to be in the same division as giants like Fury. 6'6" 246 pound Schwarz looked small next to him!
It was only a week ago that Ruiz proved that a better skilled small guy can topple a giant.
A week later you want the weights reclassified?
Fury beat a guy that shouldn't have been in the ring with him. No need to overreact and change all the weight divisions.
Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking update - Fury vs Schwarz
Posted: 16 Jun 2019, 11:14
by Paci
Hope that Fury gets some meaningfull fight next time out thou.