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Prince Naseem Hamed Awarded Ring Magazine Featherweight Belt

Posted: 17 Jun 2019, 08:44
by Ruthless-RKO
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by Tom Gray

It all began in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia last September.

The World Boxing Super Series were in town for the super middleweight final between George Groves and Callum Smith and yours truly was there to cover fight week. Having been lucky enough to secure interviews with the main event participants, my next mission was to grab anyone else of interest.

Upon entering the lobby of the Radisson Blu Hotel, the first person I encountered was four-time heavyweight champion Evander Holyfield. It doesn’t get much better than that. We’d spoken before, but this was the first time I’d met him face to face. Holyfield was “The Real Deal” indeed and very gracious with his time. As I turned to leave, I suddenly noticed former unified featherweight titleholder Prince Naseem Hamed.

This lobby was turning into a Hall of Fame ceremony:

The Ring: “Hey Naz. My name’s Tom Gray and I work for Ring Magazine. Do you have time for an interview?”

The Prince: “You work for Ring Magazine?”

The Ring: “Yes.”

The Prince: “Tell me something, can you name one fighter, other than me, who beat the champions of the WBO, the WBA, the WBC and the IBF who wasn’t awarded a Ring belt?”

The Ring: (Following a delay) “Actually . . . no.”

The Prince: “Well I want one!”

Just a couple of things. First, there’s an Asterix beside the WBA title claim. Wilfredo Vazquez, who fell victim to Naz’s crushing power in April 1998, was stripped the moment he entered the ring for that fight. However, the individuals in charge of that sanctioning organization were so sure they’d made the right decision that they sent Naz an official belt after his victory
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But it should also be noted that between 1989 and 2002 there was no Ring championship policy. The publication was under different ownership at that time and no fighter was awarded a divisional belt during that period. I explained this to Naz who was understandably skeptical given that his entire pro career (1992-2002) was conveniently completed within that timeframe. You couldn’t write it.

But regardless of the ins and outs, Naz made a solid argument in terms of his worthiness. He annexed the WBO title from Steve Robinson, IBF from Tom Johnson and WBC from Cesar Soto during a glittering and unforgettable career. He was also inducted into the Hall of Fame in 2015 and has been an enormous influence, not just to young British boxers, but to boxers, athletes and everyday people the world over. Naz was singular and he was a superstar.

I took his case to my friend, colleague and Editor-in-Chief Doug Fischer who agreed with all of the above and authorized the presentation. On Saturday, a custom-made belt was presented to Naz in the ring before the Josh Warrington-Kid Galahad featherweight title bout in Leeds, England. Unfortunately the moment wasn’t televised live because BT Sport were building up to a fight at that time, but we hope to source the footage at a later date.

This presentation was historical as it was as the first time ever that a former champion was awarded a Ring belt retroactively. It may happen again, but Naz will always be the first. Despite everything he achieved during his glorious career, this was a special moment for a truly great fighter.

I took his case to my friend, colleague and Editor-in-Chief Doug Fischer who agreed with all of the above and authorized the presentation. On Saturday, a custom-made belt was presented to Naz in the ring before the Josh Warrington-Kid Galahad featherweight title bout in Leeds, England. Unfortunately the moment wasn’t televised live because BT Sport were building up to a fight at that time, but we hope to source the footage at a later date.

This presentation was historical as it was as the first time ever that a former champion was awarded a Ring belt retroactively. It may happen again, but Naz will always be the first. Despite everything he achieved during his glorious career, this was a special moment for a truly great fighter.

“I honestly thought that I hadn’t fulfilled the criteria to fight for the belt during my career,” acknowledged Naz in an interview with The Ring. “I thought that because I relinquished belts at different times, or maybe because I didn’t hold all the belts at once that I didn’t qualify to fight for it.

“It was amazing for Ring Magazine to acknowledge me after all these years. To have a two-minute conversation with you lead to this, I was just made up and I still am. The Ring Magazine belt is such a big deal for me and it’s something that I always really wanted. I was very surprised, taken aback and completely overwhelmed when The Ring made this decision. I actually wanted you to get on a plane to Heathrow (airport) and let me see the belt. But I’m glad it didn’t happen like that because there are a lot of people with a lot of love for me, and it was a bonus for fans to see me receive a belt of that magnitude inside the ring before the main event on Saturday.

“This isn’t a belt that’s given to a champion or a Hall of Famer and they’re all the same. This is personalized with my name on it, with dates and achievements – that was the icing on the cake for me. I’d like to thank Doug (Fischer) and everyone at The Ring for making this happen.”

Re: Prince Naseem Hamed Awarded Ring Magazine Featherweight Belt

Posted: 17 Jun 2019, 08:49
by jamamb
lol

Re: Prince Naseem Hamed Awarded Ring Magazine Featherweight Belt

Posted: 17 Jun 2019, 08:59
by MasterG
That's great. Does he have to defend it?

I can't see naz getting back down to 9 stone.

Re: Prince Naseem Hamed Awarded Ring Magazine Featherweight Belt

Posted: 17 Jun 2019, 09:02
by Coco
Despite underachieving, Naz was one of the best this country has ever produced and fully deserves that belt.
In comparison the likes of Warrington and Galahad would never have lived 2 minutes with Naz.

Re: Prince Naseem Hamed Awarded Ring Magazine Featherweight Belt

Posted: 17 Jun 2019, 09:08
by vidal
Brilliant, and well deserved.

Re: Prince Naseem Hamed Awarded Ring Magazine Featherweight Belt

Posted: 17 Jun 2019, 11:12
by MasterG
Coco wrote: 17 Jun 2019, 09:02 Despite underachieving, Naz was one of the best this country has ever produced and fully deserves that belt.
In comparison the likes of Warrington and Galahad would never have lived 2 minutes with Naz.
Yeh I have to agree with you Naz is possibly the best featherweight we ever had. :TU:

Re: Prince Naseem Hamed Awarded Ring Magazine Featherweight Belt

Posted: 17 Jun 2019, 11:32
by TheLeprechaun
Coco wrote: 17 Jun 2019, 09:02 Despite underachieving, Naz was one of the best this country has ever produced and fully deserves that belt.
In comparison the likes of Warrington and Galahad would never have lived 2 minutes with Naz.
Underachieving? Does he ever beat Barerra? Or JMM, who he ducked by the way? Morales at the time was impossible to knockout so I'm pretty sure Hamed would have had serious trouble there too. I think he should have actually tried to make the Gatti fight when that was mooted. Despite the size difference he would have been able to load up as much as he could and land full force punches to the chin of Gatti. Gatti was game as the proverbial badger though and would have had no problem walking through a hiding to land his own punches and would have had to be bombed to the floor until senseless in order to lose the fight which I'm not sure a natural 126 pounder could do at the time. But if any 126 pounder could, it was the Prince.

I do agree that Galahad and Warrington would have been done early. Warrington in particular would have gotten the Billy Hardy treatment. The Leeds fans would have been mugged off by Hamed after the fight too.

Re: Prince Naseem Hamed Awarded Ring Magazine Featherweight Belt

Posted: 17 Jun 2019, 11:45
by tobyh5
I wonder if he can actually fit the belt around his gut. Maybe they used the same dimensions as the one Tyson Fury has.

Re: Prince Naseem Hamed Awarded Ring Magazine Featherweight Belt

Posted: 17 Jun 2019, 12:05
by Cholo_cws
This is far removed from the Ring's championship policy which used its own ratings as the criteria for dictating championships and had nothing to do with the alphabets. The WBO reckoned that Tom Schwarz was the #2 heavyweight contender in the world - what does that say about them! The Ring's credibility continues to plummet.

Re: Prince Naseem Hamed Awarded Ring Magazine Featherweight Belt

Posted: 17 Jun 2019, 14:14
by Coco
TheLeprechaun wrote: 17 Jun 2019, 11:32 Underachieving? Does he ever beat Barerra? Or JMM, who he ducked by the way? Morales at the time was impossible to knockout so I'm pretty sure Hamed would have had serious trouble there too. I think he should have actually tried to make the Gatti fight when that was mooted. Despite the size difference he would have been able to load up as much as he could and land full force punches to the chin of Gatti. Gatti was game as the proverbial badger though and would have had no problem walking through a hiding to land his own punches and would have had to be bombed to the floor until senseless in order to lose the fight which I'm not sure a natural 126 pounder could do at the time. But if any 126 pounder could, it was the Prince.

I do agree that Galahad and Warrington would have been done early. Warrington in particular would have gotten the Billy Hardy treatment. The Leeds fans would have been mugged off by Hamed after the fight too.
It's a big call because he achieved so much, but he was past his peak by the time he fought MAB and he never fought Morales.
I am sure that a peak Hamed would have won well against the MAB beaten by Junior Jones, but then MAB improved after that defeat.
Who knows who would have won peak for peak, it certainly would have been a lot closer. I believe that peak Hamed was genuine elite class. He had faded by the time he got to Kevin Kelley. However Medina showed the way to deal with Hamed, unfortunately he didn't look to deal with the flaws that were highlighted.

Re: Prince Naseem Hamed Awarded Ring Magazine Featherweight Belt

Posted: 17 Jun 2019, 14:29
by blanca
Coco wrote: 17 Jun 2019, 09:02 Despite underachieving, Naz was one of the best this country has ever produced and fully deserves that belt.
In comparison the likes of Warrington and Galahad would never have lived 2 minutes with Naz.
Innit. Naz would have destroyed em. Can u imagine one paces Warro coming face forward, next minute he's ironed out

Re: Prince Naseem Hamed Awarded Ring Magazine Featherweight Belt

Posted: 17 Jun 2019, 14:53
by chinarich
I would love to have seen prime Naz against Lomachenko for a Featherweight title...

Re: Prince Naseem Hamed Awarded Ring Magazine Featherweight Belt

Posted: 17 Jun 2019, 18:04
by TheGman
He shouldnt have been give one,if the belt didnt exist between 92-2002 then how can he be eligible for one? So noe mike tyson,george foreman,sugar ray leonard,hitman hearns,duran,well any boxer who held multiple titles in teh past 50 years who is still alive now can just say "i want a ring belt" and they get one? Its BS.

Re: Prince Naseem Hamed Awarded Ring Magazine Featherweight Belt

Posted: 17 Jun 2019, 18:12
by Ruthless-RKO
thechump wrote: 17 Jun 2019, 18:04 He shouldnt have been give one,if the belt didnt exist between 92-2002 then how can he be eligible for one? So noe mike tyson,george foreman,sugar ray leonard,hitman hearns,duran,well any boxer who held multiple titles in teh past 50 years who is still alive now can just say "i want a ring belt" and they get one? Its BS.
I don’t think he believed they were gonna give him one. It’s just something he said at the time.

Re: Prince Naseem Hamed Awarded Ring Magazine Featherweight Belt

Posted: 17 Jun 2019, 18:24
by jamesmcdonnell
They'll have to put quite a few extra notches in it.

Re: Prince Naseem Hamed Awarded Ring Magazine Featherweight Belt

Posted: 17 Jun 2019, 19:07
by Impractical Poster
The Real Prince
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The Fake Prince
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Re: Prince Naseem Hamed Awarded Ring Magazine Featherweight Belt

Posted: 18 Jun 2019, 06:29
by TheGman
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 17 Jun 2019, 18:12 I don’t think he believed they were gonna give him one. It’s just something he said at the time.
If you dont ask you dont get lol

Re: Prince Naseem Hamed Awarded Ring Magazine Featherweight Belt

Posted: 18 Jun 2019, 06:30
by Ruthless-RKO
thechump wrote: 18 Jun 2019, 06:29 If you dont ask you dont get lol
That’s it mate.

Re: Prince Naseem Hamed Awarded Ring Magazine Featherweight Belt

Posted: 18 Jun 2019, 11:58
by cormack
was it the " pudding weight " belt !

Re: Prince Naseem Hamed Awarded Ring Magazine Featherweight Belt

Posted: 18 Jun 2019, 12:56
by ewenhay
Impractical Poster wrote: 17 Jun 2019, 19:07 The Real Prince
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The Fake Prince
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Made me laugh

Re: Prince Naseem Hamed Awarded Ring Magazine Featherweight Belt

Posted: 18 Jun 2019, 13:51
by polecateddy
I think it's easy to make fun of someone becoming overweight in middle age. Not like lots of us get tubby or anything! But seriously, would many people seriously bet against a peak Naz being able to spectacularly stop the likes of Selby, Frampton, Galahad and Waddington.

Re: Prince Naseem Hamed Awarded Ring Magazine Featherweight Belt

Posted: 18 Jun 2019, 14:08
by bigjack
polecateddy wrote: 18 Jun 2019, 13:51 I think it's easy to make fun of someone becoming overweight in middle age. Not like lots of us get tubby or anything! But seriously, would many people seriously bet against a peak Naz being able to spectacularly stop the likes of Selby, Frampton, Galahad and Waddington.
Peak Naz would beat them all with ease,bit tougher with Frampton though.

Re: Prince Naseem Hamed Awarded Ring Magazine Featherweight Belt

Posted: 18 Jun 2019, 19:39
by MecnunK
Maybe he can fight at heavyweight..Fat as fvck, fast hands, KO power..remind you of someone? :bag:

Re: Prince Naseem Hamed Awarded Ring Magazine Featherweight Belt

Posted: 19 Jun 2019, 10:24
by stujones
When was the ring belt re-created? Wasn't it after Hamed lost to Barrera. If it is them maybe that's why Hamed didn't get one.

Off course he deserves one, but it will cost the ring a small fortune to give ring belts to all past champions who met the criteria.

Re: Prince Naseem Hamed Awarded Ring Magazine Featherweight Belt

Posted: 19 Jun 2019, 11:08
by hitman_hatton1
stujones wrote: 19 Jun 2019, 10:24 When was the ring belt re-created? Wasn't it after Hamed lost to Barrera. If it is them maybe that's why Hamed didn't get one.

Off course he deserves one, but it will cost the ring a small fortune to give ring belts to all past champions who met the criteria.
2002 - the year after naz-barrera.

barrera didn't hold a title belt and was ring champ until the pac loss.