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Dude is making 130 lbers come to 140 now. Biggest disgrace in boxing. Someone retire this guy please.

You reckon this will be in the UK?

diddy wrote: ↑25 Jun 2019, 03:27 Dude is making 130 lbers come to 140 now. Biggest disgrace in boxing. Someone retire this guy please.

Broner's optimal fighting weight is 135lbs, which is what Lee Selby weighed for his most recent outing.

And even though you’re right to consider Broner’s rumoured next fight against the feather-fisted Selby as being a mismatch, it’s important to remember that by the time ‘The Problem’ steps foot inside the ring against the Brit, 2½ years would have passed since the American’s last victory.

I feel that we might see a few moments of brilliance from Selby, but he’ll likely continue losing rounds due to Broner’s heavier hands, resulting in a stoppage loss for the Brit due to cuts sometime between rounds five and eight.

That being said, Broner is a very erratic performer and whilst his bout against Selby “should” normally be considered as being a mismatch (and I know this seems to be an oxymoron), the chances of an upset are high (especially if the bout is staged in the UK), since the outcome may be dependent on the American’s motivation/attitude.

Broner should kill this guy.

If he's still tentative against a feather fisted featherweight, then Broner has no business remaining in the sport.

At. 140, Broner will do what he pleases with Selby.

He’s making a guy who has one fight ever above 130 go to 140. It’s a joke.

Garcia vs Salka replay.

diddy wrote: ↑25 Jun 2019, 10:32 He’s making a guy who has one fight ever above 130 go to 140. It’s a joke.

Maybe Selby just wants it. There's no title at stake.

Selby fought at lightweight last time out and won. He figures that he can beat Broner at 140.

I doubt Broner is forcing Selby to do anything. He's probably never even heard of the guy.

Broner certainly isn't going down to lightweight to accomodate a Lee Selby . AB reportedly had a load of trouble making 147 for the Pacquiao bout.

This is all on Selby. It's what he wants because Broner is high profile and looks beatable with his pacifist attack.

diddy wrote: ↑25 Jun 2019, 10:32 He’s making a guy who has one fight ever above 130 go to 140. It’s a joke.

Broner hasn’t even made one 140 himself in almost four years. If he only throws his usual seven punches per round then Shelby has a real chance...

chinarich wrote: ↑25 Jun 2019, 12:05 Broner hasn’t even made one 140 himself in almost four years. If he only throws his usual seven punches per round then Shelby has a real chance...

Broner throws punches once he learns you have no power.

After feeling Vargas' light shots for 6 rounds, AB decided that he had nothing to fear and turned it on for the remainder of the bout.

Selby won't punch half as hard as Vargas. Broner should turn tiger by the 3rd round.

SenorPipino wrote: ↑25 Jun 2019, 12:18 Broner throws punches once he learns you have no power.

After feeling Vargas' light shots for 6 rounds, AB decided that he had nothing to fear and turned it on for the remainder of the bout.

Selby won't punch half as hard as Vargas. Broner should turn tiger by the 3rd round.

Fair point I was just generalising...

with broner i dont think its just about power, he did the same thing vs paulette too, spent like half the rounds doing nothing. same thing vs adrian taylor and that wouldve been a draw if he lost the last round. he simply is a lazy fighter

jamamb wrote: ↑25 Jun 2019, 12:25 with broner i dont think its just about power, he did the same thing vs paulette too, spent like half the rounds doing nothing. same thing vs adrian taylor and that wouldve been a draw if he lost the last round. he simply is a lazy fighter

“Honey, I Shrunk Kevin Johnson”

Broner's issue has always been cardio. Its because of how he lives. He's too busy tossing around his 47 kids' college fund money at strip clubs to really put in the hard yards. He then has to murder himself to make weight, compromising himself and spending each fight needing to make sure he conserves his energy. Same story over and over, but yeah he beats smaller guys because he muscles them on the inside.

I think it's mostly mental with Broner.

While he was never a non stop puncher even during his unbeaten run, Broner became noticeably gunshy after tasting the canvas twice against Maidana.

He apparently fears a repeat, although he does have a pretty decent chin. He won't let his hands go with guys who can bang.

Similar to Camacho after Rosario abused him for 12 rounds.

But Broner won't have any worries about Selby's punch. No Maidana flashbacks there.

I would think Selby has more potential upside than Broner. Why are they essentially doing Broner a favor here by putting this match together for him when he's clearly just a name guy for better fighters to lose to?

Selby you'd imagine has more chances of being a relevant fighter again in the future than Broner does. He won't be if they're gonna use him like this though.

Who knows if Selby can gain some power with gaining some weight.
If he keeps up his workrate, I give him a good chance of getting a decision.
I am baffled at Broner making 140.
He would have to undergo serious training regiemes to do it.
What's the bet he comes in at 145 and gets to fight anyway?

KiwiRider wrote: ↑25 Jun 2019, 16:04 Who knows if Selby can gain some power with gaining some weight.
If he keeps up his workrate, I give him a good chance of getting a decision.
I am baffled at Broner making 140.
He would have to undergo serious training regiemes to do it.
What's the bet he comes in at 145 and gets to fight anyway?

They'll probably just re-negotiate it to 144 or 145 pounds or something anyway. It's not like Broner is regularly trying to return to Jr. Welterweight I wouldn't think.

What's the bet he comes in at 145 and gets to fight anyway?
KiwiRider my first thoughts exactly once reading this thread.
Broner will know it`s a huge opportunity for Selby and treat it all with contempt,especially something trivial like making weight for it.
Selby fights regardless and gets stopped inside 6

gilgamesh wrote: ↑25 Jun 2019, 16:11 They'll probably just re-negotiate it to 144 or 145 pounds or something anyway. It's not like Broner is regularly trying to return to Jr. Welterweight I wouldn't think.

Hmm, you could be right.
There was talk from Broner after his last fight of dropping down, but like most things from Broner's mouth. I assumed it to be just talk.
Ya never know. Paternity demands are a great motivator (or so I've been told)

KiwiRider wrote: ↑25 Jun 2019, 16:15 Hmm, you could be right.
There was talk from Broner after his last fight of dropping down, but like most things from Broner's mouth. I assumed it to be just talk.
Ya never know. Paternity demands are a great motivator (or so I've been told)

I just wouldn't even think it'd be physically possible for him to make 140 without severely limiting his ability to perform upon doing it.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑25 Jun 2019, 16:19 I just wouldn't even think it'd be physically possible for him to make 140 without severely limiting his ability to perform upon doing it.

He couldn’t make 140 with a belt on the line against Theophane so I’m sure he wouldn’t care against Selby in a non-title fight which probably won’t carry any financial penalties for missing weight...

chinarich wrote: ↑25 Jun 2019, 16:56 He couldn’t make 140 with a belt on the line against Theophane so I’m sure he wouldn’t care against Selby in a non-title fight which probably won’t carry any financial penalties for missing weight...

There's always financial penalties for not making the contractually agreed upon weight. He'll be fined. Maybe he considers it a worthwhile trade off, but he'd definitely be fined.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑25 Jun 2019, 16:59 There's always financial penalties for not making the contractually agreed upon weight. He'll be fined. Maybe he considers it a worthwhile trade off, but he'd definitely be fined.

Fair enough, I assumed that there wouldn’t be if there wasn’t a belt on the line but I guess it makes sense. I can’t see him making 140 so I suppose he’ll weigh up the penalties...