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Jermall Charlo vs Sergiy Derevyanchenko - The match I want to see!

Posted: 29 Jun 2019, 05:12
by apollo creed
This fight would be easy to make because both fighters are under the same umbrella. Also it would be interesting to see Charlo how he deals with a good fighter like Sergiy. :box:

Re: Jermall Charlo vs Sergiy Derevyanchenko - The match I want to see!

Posted: 29 Jun 2019, 05:45
by Onetimeonly
He's already beaten a better fighter, but this would be much better than Adams.

Re: Jermall Charlo vs Sergiy Derevyanchenko - The match I want to see!

Posted: 29 Jun 2019, 05:50
by dagilechia
Derevyanchenko would be a slight favourite in this one

Re: Jermall Charlo vs Sergiy Derevyanchenko - The match I want to see!

Posted: 29 Jun 2019, 05:51
by Onetimeonly
For you? He'd be an underdog on betting sites.

Re: Jermall Charlo vs Sergiy Derevyanchenko - The match I want to see!

Posted: 29 Jun 2019, 05:53
by Counter-puncher
Slavic boxing fan in 'over-rating a Slavic boxer' shocker

Re: Jermall Charlo vs Sergiy Derevyanchenko - The match I want to see!

Posted: 29 Jun 2019, 05:55
by Onetimeonly
Counter-puncher wrote: 29 Jun 2019, 05:53 Slavic boxing fan in 'over-rating a Slavic boxer' shocker
Well, he's going to dig deep in the excuse bag when andrade schools sulecki. Is that Tunney?

Re: Jermall Charlo vs Sergiy Derevyanchenko - The match I want to see!

Posted: 29 Jun 2019, 06:00
by Counter-puncher
Onetimeonly wrote: 29 Jun 2019, 05:55 Well, he's going to dig deep in the excuse bag when andrade schools sulecki. Is that Tunney?
nah, he's Polish, Tunney was russian?

Re: Jermall Charlo vs Sergiy Derevyanchenko - The match I want to see!

Posted: 29 Jun 2019, 06:00
by dagilechia
I do not root for Ukrainians, i just think that Derevyan is better and i'd favour him. If it's me overrating Slavs or Americans underrating them we will see that night. I was virtually only one here who thought that Jacobs-Sulecki will be close, competetive. Because i knew Sulecki, and he was anonymous to most. American fighters, like Charlo, are overhyped (he lost to Korobov), slavs, except of the olympic champions/fighters with great amateur backround, are usually underrated.

Re: Jermall Charlo vs Sergiy Derevyanchenko - The match I want to see!

Posted: 29 Jun 2019, 06:03
by Onetimeonly
Counter-puncher wrote: 29 Jun 2019, 06:00 nah, he's Polish, Tunney was russian?
I think Tunney claimed to be Canadian. Agreed, not an easy one to spot but he has his Tunney moments.

Re: Jermall Charlo vs Sergiy Derevyanchenko - The match I want to see!

Posted: 29 Jun 2019, 06:05
by dagilechia
Sulecki vs Andrade and Derevyanchenko vs Charlo are more or less 50/50 fights, i don't know what's so shocking that i slighty favour Sulecki tonight. He's unlikely to get the decision anyway but in the ring i predict him to win at least 7 rounds.

Re: Jermall Charlo vs Sergiy Derevyanchenko - The match I want to see!

Posted: 29 Jun 2019, 06:06
by dagilechia
Onetimeonly wrote: 29 Jun 2019, 06:03 I think Tunney claimed to be Canadian. Agreed, not an easy one to spot but he has his Tunney moments.
I have never had any other account and i dont know who Tunney is. I am using this account more than 6 years already.

Re: Jermall Charlo vs Sergiy Derevyanchenko - The match I want to see!

Posted: 29 Jun 2019, 06:09
by Counter-puncher
dagilechia wrote: 29 Jun 2019, 06:05 Sulecki vs Andrade and Derevyanchenko vs Charlo are more or less 50/50 fights, i don't know what's so shocking that i slighty favour Sulecki tonight. He's unlikely to get the decision anyway but in the ring i predict him to win at least 7 rounds.
making sure you get the 'anti-American-judging' point in before he loses

the Slav Game is strong with this one

Re: Jermall Charlo vs Sergiy Derevyanchenko - The match I want to see!

Posted: 29 Jun 2019, 06:10
by Onetimeonly
dagilechia wrote: 29 Jun 2019, 06:06 I have never had any other account and i dont know who Tunney is. I am using this account more than 6 years already.
:TU: sulecki has no chance tonight.

Re: Jermall Charlo vs Sergiy Derevyanchenko - The match I want to see!

Posted: 29 Jun 2019, 06:15
by dagilechia
Onetimeonly wrote: 29 Jun 2019, 06:10 :TU: sulecki has no chance tonight.
He has comparable skills and resume. Ruiz had no chances he won anyway. If you think that Sulecki has no chances you are worse than casuals. Sulecki is proven at world level. He already had to lose to Proksa, Centeno, had to be knocked out easily by Jacobs, a lot of people thought Culcay will beat him....

Re: Jermall Charlo vs Sergiy Derevyanchenko - The match I want to see!

Posted: 29 Jun 2019, 06:17
by Onetimeonly
dagilechia wrote: 29 Jun 2019, 06:15 He has comparable skills and resume. Ruiz had no chances he won anyway. If you think that Sulecki has no chances you are worse than casuals. Sulecki is proven at world level.
He isn't comparable in any skill area.

Re: Jermall Charlo vs Sergiy Derevyanchenko - The match I want to see!

Posted: 29 Jun 2019, 06:21
by Counter-puncher
Onetimeonly wrote: 29 Jun 2019, 06:17 He isn't comparable in any skill area.
he has greater Slavicness

Re: Jermall Charlo vs Sergiy Derevyanchenko - The match I want to see!

Posted: 29 Jun 2019, 06:21
by dagilechia
:doh:

Yeah and Andrade is #1 and has ATG resume :lol:

Re: Jermall Charlo vs Sergiy Derevyanchenko - The match I want to see!

Posted: 29 Jun 2019, 06:22
by dagilechia
Counter-puncher wrote: 29 Jun 2019, 06:21 he has greater Slavicness
I dont care about "Slavicness" Ukrainians are probably the last nation that i could say that i like

Sulecki is not a panslavist too, he's justa good fighter.

Re: Jermall Charlo vs Sergiy Derevyanchenko - The match I want to see!

Posted: 29 Jun 2019, 06:23
by Onetimeonly
True I felt the same way about Ruiz. I dont see anything sulecki can do. Between the two fights it was more how good I thought Joshua was where as here it's the match up. Sulecki is pedestrian at this level power wise and he's completely outgunned with speed and defense. He'll try hard, but I'd be shocked if he won more than 3 RDS.

Re: Jermall Charlo vs Sergiy Derevyanchenko - The match I want to see!

Posted: 29 Jun 2019, 06:25
by Onetimeonly
dagilechia wrote: 29 Jun 2019, 06:21 :doh:

Yeah and Andrade is #1 and has ATG resume :lol:
Resume has nothing to do with picking a fight and neither of these guys have much of one. Can you at least wait until after the fight to sob?

Re: Jermall Charlo vs Sergiy Derevyanchenko - The match I want to see!

Posted: 29 Jun 2019, 06:27
by dagilechia
Onetimeonly wrote: 29 Jun 2019, 06:25 Resume has nothing to do with picking a fight and neither of these guys have much of one. Can you at least wait until after the fight to sob?
Can you?

Re: Jermall Charlo vs Sergiy Derevyanchenko - The match I want to see!

Posted: 29 Jun 2019, 06:29
by Onetimeonly
dagilechia wrote: 29 Jun 2019, 06:27Can you?
I'm not a crier, honey, at least you have the NC and forced rematch that will "no doubt" happen with glowacki and breidis. :lol:

Re: Jermall Charlo vs Sergiy Derevyanchenko - The match I want to see!

Posted: 29 Jun 2019, 06:31
by dagilechia
Onetimeonly wrote: 29 Jun 2019, 06:29 I'm not a crier, honey, at least you have the NC and forced rematch that will "no doubt" happen with glowacki and breidis. :lol:
I said that this case will "no doubt" end in court lol i know boxing i know the chances for rematch are close to none.

Re: Jermall Charlo vs Sergiy Derevyanchenko - The match I want to see!

Posted: 29 Jun 2019, 06:32
by Onetimeonly
I'd love to see sulecki win, never liked andrade. Just different levels and a clear style advantage.

Re: Jermall Charlo vs Sergiy Derevyanchenko - The match I want to see!

Posted: 29 Jun 2019, 06:36
by dagilechia
Onetimeonly wrote: 29 Jun 2019, 06:32 I'd love to see sulecki win, never liked andrade. Just different levels and a clear style advantage.
You are right Andrade's style will be a problem (the slickness more than the southpaw stance) but so will Suleckis european style, good jab, footwork and straight punches. Its a good clash of styles and a good fight imo