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A.J. WORKING ON MOBILITY FOR RUIZ REMATCH

Posted: 01 Jul 2019, 22:58
by Best Coast
https://www.boxingnews24.com/2019/07/an ... -mobility/
Anthony Joshua is working hard in the gym in trying to improve his mobility and head movement to get ready for his rematch with Andy Ruiz Jr. later this year. Joshua’s promoter Eddie Hearn will be deciding on the date and the venue for the Joshua-Ruiz rematch this week.
By this point in Joshua’s career, he should have already worked on his mobility a long time ago. He’s 29-years-old, and he’s built like an NFL tight end. Joshua’s heavily muscled physique isn’t designed for movement. That doesn’t necessarily mean that Joshua can make small improvements in his ability to move around the ring, but he’s not going to become fleet of foot at this stage of his career.

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Posted: 02 Jul 2019, 00:22
by victor-romeo
AJ needs to learn how to clinch.. Stay on outside and jab fight tall, and tie up on inside...a little late for 3 month crash course though..

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Posted: 02 Jul 2019, 01:07
by SAPFO
You can’t cure rigamortis of the neck. AJ’s best hope for helping with his mobility is by using a Zimmer frame.

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Posted: 02 Jul 2019, 01:10
by jamamb
if he boxes a wlad like fight i think he can win widely

but god damn him not boxing like wlad was a big part of why i like him

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Posted: 02 Jul 2019, 01:15
by tiny_acres
jamamb wrote: 02 Jul 2019, 01:10 if he boxes a wlad like fight i think he can win widely

but god damn him not boxing like wlad was a big part of why i like him
I agree the last thing we need is to bring back the Klinch-ko style.
But I don't think Joshua could pull it off

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Posted: 02 Jul 2019, 02:32
by candyslim
Yeah he's too old a dog to be learning new tricks, and as has been said his physique doesn't make for fluid movement.

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Posted: 02 Jul 2019, 02:34
by DrDuke
He also needs some guts. That's not very learnable though.

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Posted: 02 Jul 2019, 02:54
by candyslim
That is just too stupid for words. The guy got off the canvas four times and fought for several rounds without being fully aware of what was happening. I don't know whether there was anything wrong with him prior to getting caught by Ruiz, but whatever it was, it wasn't a lack of guts.

I had you down as one of the more sensible posters on here. It seems my judgement leaves something to be desired.

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Posted: 02 Jul 2019, 03:25
by Enlightened-One
victor-romeo wrote: 02 Jul 2019, 00:22 AJ needs to learn how to clinch.. Stay on outside and jab fight tall, and tie up on inside...a little late for 3 month crash course though..
What you've just said was pretty much Team Joshua's gameplan for the Andy Ruiz Jr. fight, which AJ either couldn't execute (because he didn't know how to) or chose not to, though I believe it was the former rather than the latter.

Here’s a transcript of the advice Robert McCracken gave to AJ during each one-minute interval…

End of Round One:
“Don't drop down to his height...

“Use your height and reach. He can't get past the jab, if you jab up and down. And he'll eventually walk onto the right hand.

“Be busier with the jab. Start shooting the odd one-two. Up on your toes, the odd one-two.

“Keep him long. Don't look to throwing hooks yet. Jab, jab, back hand.”


End of Round Two:
“When he comes in, [time Ruiz on the way in] throw the right hand.

“Relax and use your feet when you're in range. Don't go flat-footed. Be busier with the jabs, up and down and then follow up with the right hand. Look to break him down with the left-rights, use your reach and keep your chin down. Every now and then, throw the hook off the jab.”


End of Round Three:
No footage of the corner.

End of Round Four:
“Keep throwing the jab and defend with head movement. Keep your hands up when you're boxing. Don't come down to his height. He caught you with the hook, because you're loading up.

“Keep your hands up. Jab, jab, right hand. You'll break him down.”


End of Round Five:
“All you've got to do is be a little bit busier. Box a little bit more. Stick to the jabs and right hand.

“Listen to me, you can win this fight. You can beat him with your reach. Jab, jab, right hand.

“Don't look for power, look to box, because you're walking onto his shots. Whenever you've looked for hooks, he caught you. Don't look for hooks, because you're loading up.

“Listen! You've got to win these rounds. Get boxing again! All straight stuff. Keep your hands up!”


End of Round Six:
“You've got to start throwing one-two's and shoot the odd bodyshot. You have to time him. And if you hit him, you'll slow him right down.

“Jab, jab, jab and right hand. Left and right, left and right long. Uppercut and hook when you're inside. Be busier though...”

Re: A.J. WORKING ON MOBILITY FOR RUIZ REMATCH

Posted: 02 Jul 2019, 03:37
by Enlightened-One
candyslim wrote: 02 Jul 2019, 02:54 That is just too stupid for words. The guy got off the canvas four times and fought for several rounds without being fully aware of what was happening. I don't know whether there was anything wrong with him prior to getting caught by Ruiz, but whatever it was, it wasn't a lack of guts.

I had you down as one of the more sensible posters on here. It seems my judgement leaves something to be desired.
It saddens me to have witnessed so many conspiracy theories trying to explain the Anthony Joshua upset, since it seems that no one is willing to consider the possibility that AJ (like all of today’s heavyweights) has flaws and lost to the better man on the night.

People have the sheer audacity to compare AJ’s loss to Lennox Lewis being upset by Hasim Rahman, but the former was a prolonged one-sided beat-down where the Mexican-American was better than the Brit in almost every single department, with the latter simply being a one-punch KO.

For the record, I agree with you, as I don’t feel that Joshua lacks bravery or testicular fortitude, but he was out-boxed by a more skilful and fundamentally-sound opponent. The writing was on the wall as early as the second round, prior to AJ’s senses being scrambled in the third by Ruiz Jr’s clubbing hooks, but it seems that most people choose to forget that.

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Posted: 02 Jul 2019, 03:55
by candyslim
Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying there was something wrong with him, but I wouldn't discount the possibility. His punch resistance seemed uncharacteristicly woeful. I guess a fighter can have a decent chin and still be vulnerable to shots elsewhere on the skull.

No intention here to detract from Andy's win. He did a great job on Joshua and may very well do so again, especially if Josh overrules Hearn on the fight's location.

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Posted: 02 Jul 2019, 09:19
by evrenb
Perhaps he can spend more time on boxing ability and less on training too hard for muscle and 'fitness'. The great Angelo Dundee used to say 'don't leave your fight in the gym, save something for the night'.
I think he was right. He reminds me of Bruno in this respect ; amazing training regimen , amazing physique but seemingly a lack of stamina, fluidity and boxing ability.
Not to denigrate either fighter though. I respect every boxer. :TU:

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Posted: 02 Jul 2019, 09:58
by marvelous marv
The worst thing you can do is be caught between styles going into a big fight.

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Posted: 02 Jul 2019, 10:19
by Bard of Boxrec
Joshua will win the rematch in a straightforward manner.

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Posted: 02 Jul 2019, 10:44
by oogiebe
marvelous marv wrote: 02 Jul 2019, 09:58 The worst thing you can do is be caught between styles going into a big fight.
I agree. AJ needs to keep it simple. Work behind a stronger jab. Keep the distance proper. Wait for opportunities and don't try to force the action. That was always AJ's game.

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Posted: 02 Jul 2019, 11:24
by SAPFO
Riddick Blowe wrote: 02 Jul 2019, 10:19 Joshua will win the rematch in a straightforward manner.
I understand that AJ can always land early & end it, especially with a home ref jumping in, but Ruiz took AJ's soul every time AJ went on the attack. Ruiz won't all of a sudden get old, and AJ wont be able to learn the skills needed this quickly. His best bet is the Wlad & grab route, but he's not a Wlad kind of fighter.

The comment above regarding AJ 'needs some guts'. IMO, I believe AJ knew Ruiz just had his number that night, and there was absolutely nothing he could do about it, hence the relief look at the end. AJ knew he was beat that night, and the sensible option was go out standing as opposed to a devastating KO, which was coming.

There is no shame in admitting your are beaten by the better man, and then going away to try to figure out the puzzle. AJ showed heart get up every time, also in the Wlad fight. The final time AJ got up, the safest option, which the ref rightly chose, was to stop a clearly beaten fighter, taking on more potentially life changing damage.


The ball is in AJ's court now, but I really don't think he has an answer to Ruiz.

AJ cant just go bezerka, because Ruiz will catch him every time. And Ruiz has also proved his recovery powers are strong.

Can AJ be disciplined behind the jab? Last time he wasn't..

What if AJ is disciplined behind his longer jab, and waits for his chance to go for the kill, but then the smarter boxing IQ of Ruiz has already set him the trap? Remember, Ruiz has nailed that counter perfectly 4 times now...

So what 'can' AJ do? His only really sensible gameplan is a Wlad & grab ain't it really?

AJ might as well not bother lacing the right hand up, as ironically, it is his own right hand that will be his undoing. With that on his mind, will he turn into a 'David Price'?


So many questions.. Either way, it's an interesting rematch

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Posted: 02 Jul 2019, 12:35
by Nightmare Roy
Riddick Blowe wrote: 02 Jul 2019, 10:19 Joshua will win the rematch in a straightforward manner.
I really can’t see it, he got battered, it wasn’t some fluke.

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Posted: 02 Jul 2019, 12:36
by jamamb
Nightmare Roy wrote: 02 Jul 2019, 12:35 I really can’t see it, he got battered, it wasn’t some fluke.
i dont think he recovered from the 3rd round when he got wild and got caught, if he can stay not hurt i can see it, but easier said then done

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Posted: 02 Jul 2019, 12:38
by Nightmare Roy
jamamb wrote: 02 Jul 2019, 12:36 i dont think he recovered from the 3rd round when he got wild and got caught, if he can stay not hurt i can see it, but easier said then done
That’s just it Ruiz will inevitably catch him hard again at some point and it’ll all happen again, his hands are so fast, in hindsight he’s a stylistic nightmare for AJ.

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Posted: 02 Jul 2019, 15:31
by SAPFO
Styles make fights as the old saying goes

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Posted: 02 Jul 2019, 15:52
by ewenhay
What a strange article.

More or less saying Joshua is trying to learn pretty basic stuff that he should know already.

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Posted: 02 Jul 2019, 17:28
by KiwiRider
When AJ trained for Parker, he came in light, he came in fit for 12, and he stuck to an outside boxing performance.
Yes he was helped by a ref who didn't allow any inside fighting by Parker, but ultimately AJ had the means to beat a faster combatant.
That same plan, I feel, will work well against Ruiez's style.

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Posted: 02 Jul 2019, 17:40
by mcrow42
A guy like Ruiz will give A.J. trouble no matter what he does. The biggest thing is A.J. made himself and easy target with little or know head movement and he couldn't handle the hand speed of Ruiz either. He can win if he moves a little more, uses his reach to his advantage and doesn't get shell-shocked early if he gets tagged. On paper A.J. should be able to KO Ruiz but paper don't fight. :bag:

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Posted: 02 Jul 2019, 18:30
by Finkel
Has he brought Ricky Hatton on board?

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Posted: 02 Jul 2019, 18:56
by coneye
Wonder how much he's paying for all that thoughtful advice , he could of saved money going to his local amateur trainer , jeez its not rocket science he's a big stiff robot , always was , but over the years he's getting bigger and stiffer .

Now regards the in between rnds advice , ,
fight tall ok sound advice , ,
straight punches , ok sound advice , remember the old saying don't hook with a hooker ,
keep it straight and long , ok sound advice ,
move the head sound advice ,

All basic boxing and basic advice , …. BUT
Jab up and down ,, what the hell is this ,

Jab to the body is gonna do what ,,, its gonna bring you lower against a smaller faster , quick of foot , quick of hand , hard puncher , and get you knocked over .

Where was the , , he's swinging the hooks , time him with a jab and let the uppercut go ..

Seems to me AJ really should go back to is old amateur trainer , buy him another car and pay him the big dollars .

Ruiz and his camp win even easier next time , this fight was won by better skills and tactics , shown and learnt in the gym over years of practice , and far better more technical advice