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List the fights you predicted correctly, list the fights you missed big on . . . don't try to remember every fight you watched, go for your top ten, the big ones you went Ralph Kramden on: "I've got a big mouth!" . . . no lying; no making shit up.

Fights I got right; in order of how brilliant (I thought) I looked.

I predicted . . .

1. Duran over Leonard in Montreal
2. Foreman over Frazier in Kingston
3. Bramble over Mancini (I)
4. Toney over Nunn
5. Holyfield over Tyson (I)
6. Hearns over Hill
7. Tapia over Romero
8. Bowe over Holyfield (I)
9. Haugen over Pazienza (II)
10. Norris over Leonard

Fights I was clueless about; in order of how stupid I felt afterwards.

Predictions I wish I hadn't made . . .

1. Foreman over Ali
2. Douglas over Holyfield
3. Hearns over Leonard (I)
4. Ali over Frazier (I)
5. Chavez over Whitaker
6. Arguello over Pryor
7. Toney over Jones
8. Bramble over Rosario
9. Hagler over Leonard
10. Rosario over Camacho

APerno wrote: ↑05 Jul 2019, 02:27 List the fights you predicted correctly, list the fights you missed big on . . . don't try to remember every fight you watched, go for your top ten, the big ones you went Ralph Kramden on: "I've got a big mouth!" . . . no lying; no making poo up.

Fights I got right; in order of how brilliant (I thought) I looked.

I predicted . . .

1. Duran over Leonard in Montreal
2. Foreman over Frazier in Kingston
3. Bramble over Mancini (I)
4. Toney over Nunn
5. Holyfield over Tyson (I)
6. Hearns over Hill
7. Tapia over Romero
8. Bowe over Holyfield (I)
9. Haugen over Pazienza (II)
10. Norris over Leonard

Fights I was clueless about; in order of how stupid I felt afterwards.

Predictions I wish I hadn't made . . .

1. Foreman over Ali
2. Douglas over Holyfield
3. Hearns over Leonard (I)
4. Ali over Frazier (I)
5. Chavez over Whitaker
6. Arguello over Pryor
7. Toney over Jones
8. Bramble over Rosario
9. Hagler over Leonard
10. Rosario over Camacho

Really your fights that proved you wrong aren’t bad. Who honestly had Ali over Foreman. I was a kid so I don’t remember the fight just the aftermath. Hearns was a MONSTER at welter and was winning the fight. A lot of people thought Arguello was too much for Pryor and an argument can be made that Rosario DID beat Camacho

Gonna do my best to remember here as accurately as possible. I don't know if I can come up with 10, but I'll do 5. If I think of more in either category later I'll include 'em.

Correct predictions

1. Glen Johnson to beat Antonio Tarver (in their 1st fight)
2. Marcos Maidana to beat Adrien Broner
3. Luis Nery to beat Shinsuke Yamanaka (the reason I put this one, is because I think it was a mild upset, and I even predicted the KO between rounds 4 and 6)
4. Winky Wright to beat Mosley (not sure if that was seen as an upset at the time, but it felt like it a little)
5. Sergey Kovalev to beat Eleider Alvarez in the rematch by decision (I'm pretty proud of this pick, because I think it was the least likely outcome according to bookies, but I had the feeling he was gonna be more cautious and try to box more in this match, and he proved me right)


The woefully wrong predictions

1. Ricky Hatton to defeat Manny Pacquiao
2. Tito Trinidad to KO Winky Wright in 5
3. Chris Arreola to beat the sh*t out of Bermane Stiverne easy


4. Wlad to KO Corrie Sanders (this one stands out in my mind because it was my early days of fandom, and I remember talking up to a buddy of mine who was watching the fights with me how badass Wlad was, and how he was the next champ and this and that, and then he gets just flattened by a pudgy guy who plays Golf. )

5. Jose Luis Castillo to KO Diego Corrales in 10 (I list this one only because I had it exactly wrong, and when watching it in real time. When Castillo dropped him twice, and my prediction was so close to coming EXACTLY right, and then Corrales turns the tide, and instead stops Castillo in the 10th...oh man...it ripped my heart out. Everybody else was ecstatic about what a fight they just saw, but I was like shell shocked. I'll never forget it.)

My two funniest goofs:

Lacy over Calzaghe, I was Drinking the "U.S.A". Kool Aid"
Mahone over Klitschko I was Drinking the "USA network" Kool Aid


I have since swore off drinking, and do more reading. My predictions have improved dramatically.

I was going for Lacy over Calzaghe as well. Quite confidently as I recall.

I had Leonard over Duran in 8 prior to their second fight(I never dreamed Duran would quit; I was thinking a battering type tko.) . I figured on Cooney destroying Holmes. I also had Tarver knocking out Hopkins easily.

Holy/Tyson, Leonard/hagler, Morales/PAC, maidana/broner, Hopkins vs pavlik & tarver, Williams and Mosley vs Margarito., McBride/Tyson. PAC/dlh is the most money I've ever made on a fight.......Allan green/ward, hatton/PAC, Camacho/Chavez, saad/qawi 2, Castillo/hatton, Mosley/Floyd, Williams/Martinez 2, Dawson/Stevenson....Tons more in both sides. Then there are fights like cotto/Martinez that even though he was a big dog and everyone thought he was going to get smashed he gets no credit for it now, so neither do I.

Predicted

Tyson-McBride
Fury-Klitschko
Fury-Wilder
Haye-Klitschko*
Price-Thompson I & II
Mayweather-Canelo

Misses

(Prediction nearly came true, but went bad at the last minute, is what I mean by a miss)

Klitschko-Joshua
Parker-Whyte

Strike Outs

Tyson-Lewis
Ruiz-Jones
Mayweather-Guerrero
Hatton-Mayweather

Still Feel Vindicated Regardless of the Outcome

Canelo-GGG I & II
Mayweather-McGregor**



*Most people assumed Haye would get kayoed relatively early, and most people I talked to at the time seemed more interested in Adamek than Haye; I predicted Haye to go the whole twelve.

**I never said McGregor would win, but I said between Mayweather not taking him too seriously, maybe even taking it easy on him in there, and McGregor's oddball angles would take him into the "championship rounds". Nobody agreed with me. So I was glad to be right.

I've made so many bad decisions it would take a month to type it out.
The ones that stand out

Frazier over Foreman.. I saw Foreman as completely untested and slow

Arguelo over Pryor

DeLaHoya over Pacquiao

Tyson over Holyfield

Holyfield over Toney

The list goes on.....

HomicideHenry wrote: ↑06 Jul 2019, 16:42 Predicted

Tyson-McBride
Fury-Klitschko
Fury-Wilder
Haye-Klitschko*
Price-Thompson I & II
Mayweather-Canelo

Misses

(Prediction nearly came true, but went bad at the last minute, is what I mean by a miss)

Klitschko-Joshua
Parker-Whyte

Strike Outs

Tyson-Lewis
Ruiz-Jones
Mayweather-Guerrero
Hatton-Mayweather

Still Feel Vindicated Regardless of the Outcome

Canelo-GGG I & II
Mayweather-McGregor**



*Most people assumed Haye would get kayoed relatively early, and most people I talked to at the time seemed more interested in Adamek than Haye; I predicted Haye to go the whole twelve.

**I never said McGregor would win, but I said between Mayweather not taking him too seriously, maybe even taking it easy on him in there, and McGregor's oddball angles would take him into the "championship rounds". Nobody agreed with me. So I was glad to be right.

Great call on a draw with fury/wilder!

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑06 Jul 2019, 20:40

HomicideHenry wrote: ↑06 Jul 2019, 16:42 Predicted

Tyson-McBride
Fury-Klitschko
Fury-Wilder
Haye-Klitschko*
Price-Thompson I & II
Mayweather-Canelo

Misses

(Prediction nearly came true, but went bad at the last minute, is what I mean by a miss)

Klitschko-Joshua
Parker-Whyte

Strike Outs

Tyson-Lewis
Ruiz-Jones
Mayweather-Guerrero
Hatton-Mayweather

Still Feel Vindicated Regardless of the Outcome

Canelo-GGG I & II
Mayweather-McGregor**



*Most people assumed Haye would get kayoed relatively early, and most people I talked to at the time seemed more interested in Adamek than Haye; I predicted Haye to go the whole twelve.

**I never said McGregor would win, but I said between Mayweather not taking him too seriously, maybe even taking it easy on him in there, and McGregor's oddball angles would take him into the "championship rounds". Nobody agreed with me. So I was glad to be right.

Great call on a draw with fury/wilder!

I think my exact words was something like: "The only way Fury loses is if he's robbed and it goes to Wilder or a draw like Canelo-GGG."

HomicideHenry wrote: ↑06 Jul 2019, 21:14

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑06 Jul 2019, 20:40

Great call on a draw with fury/wilder!

I think my exact words was something like: "The only way Fury loses is if he's robbed and it goes to Wilder or a draw like Canelo-GGG."

Ah, I take it back then. I picked Whitaker to school Chavez. He actually did.

The ones I picked right, and I am not telling why:
Sugar Ray Leonard vs Thomas Hearns I
Evander Holyfield vs Mike Tyson I
Sugar Ray Leonard vs Marvelous Marvin Hagler
Julio Cesar Chavez vs Meldrick Taylor I
Thomas Hearns vs Wilfred Benitez
Lennox Lewis vs Mike Tyson
Julio Cesar Chavez vs Edwin "Chapo" Rosario
Evander Holyfield vs Mike Tyson II
Erik "El Terrible" Morales vs Marco Antonio Barrera l
Sugar Ray Leonard vs Wilfred Benitez


The ones that I was totally wrong, and I am telling why:

1. Marvin Hagler vs Thomas Hearns: I thought that The Hitman was going to do the same thing to Marvelous just like he did The Hands of Stone... Totally wrong about that. Marvelous took Tommy's best shots and put him away in the 3rd round. Marvelous earned every single word of that nickname.

2. Aaron Pryor vs Alexis Arguello I: Just like he flattened Kevin Rooney, the fight before, I thought that The Explosive Thin Man was going to get his fourth world title by knockout around the 11th round. Aaron Pryor surprised me with his total package. He also was out boxing Alexis from the outside and moving side to side in some rounds. A great win for the Cincinnati Hawk. I never thought that Arguello was going to get knocked out in the latter rounds because I thought that the longer the fight, it was the better for Arguello. It proved it was not so.

3. Evander Holyfield vs Buster Douglas: After beating the great Mike Tyson in some extraordinary and unbelievable fashion, I thought that he was going to do the same with a smaller for like The Real Deal. It turned out to be that Lou Duva's camp were celebrating at the weigh in when Buster came at 246lbs instead of the trimmed 231lbs in Tokyo. Buster became a laughing stock for the boxing community. He collected the $25 million dollars and disappeared. He conned all of us with that showing.

4. Oscar De La Hoya vs Fernando Vargas: I have never liked De La Hoya after the Felix "Tito" Trinidad fight. I wanted El Feroz to give him a beating. To me, Fernando was the real chicano that really embodied his Mexican heritage. De La Hoya? I still consider him a fake. He is to me a pretty boy with good personality, with fakeness in it. Oscar beat him up fair and square. No excuses! I got very angry and surprised of the outcome.

5. Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Diego "Chico" Corrales: I thought that Corrales, with his reach and height and punching power, was the second coming of the great Tommy Hearns. I thought that he was going to knocked Pretty Boy Floyd out. Pretty Boy Floyd displayed the most complete performance of his career. Maybe in my eyes, he had the most complete performance of the last 18 years in my book. He totally dominated Chico. Chico got his ass kicked. A real ass whupping.

6. Salvador Sanchez vs Wilfredo Gomez: After witnessing how Bazooka destroyed every single Mexican great boxer after another, and the way he totally destroyed the great Carlos Zarate, I thought that the great Salvador Sanchez wasn't going to be any way different. How wrong I was when I said that Puerto Rico was going to win this fight. It turned out to be one of the greatest ass whuppings that I have seen in boxing. One of boxing's greatest performances by the part of Sanchez. I don't think that no featherweight champion in history would have beaten him that night. Not even my favorite, the great Eusebio Pedroza would hang with him in that night in Vegas. Sanchez became an automatic all-time great pound per pound fighter. He reached the pinnacle of his career with that display of total dominance against a killer in Gomez.

7. Roy Jones Jr vs James Toney: I thought that Toney was everything I saw in a boxer since the great Roberto Duran: Mean, tough, skilled, good inside fighting skills with a warrior's mentality. Super Roy beat him every round. It was a shutout. Toney embarrassed himself and his fans like me. Did he had to lose too many pounds for the fight? Did he took Jones likely? Was he 100% ready and focused? It wasn't Roy's problem. He won fair and square in my book. Toney should have been ready for the biggest fight of his career. He flunked BIG TIME!

8. Edwin "Chapo" Rosario vs Livingstone Bramble: I was so high on Bramble after beating Ray "Book Boom" Mancini, twice. How wrong I was about him when I thought that he was going to give Chapo the same treatment. It wasn't even a match. Rosario stopped him in only two rounds! After that, Bramble dissappeared and never again was one of the top boxers of the mid-eighties decade.

9. Pernell Whitaker vs Julio Cesar Chavez: Chavez is one of my favorite boxers ever. And I thought, like the great Roberto Duran in the 70s decade, that Chavez was invincible in the 90s. I thought That the ONLY MAN to beat Duran in Duran's prime at Lightweight would have been that same Chavez. He was 87-0, and had a world championship fight record of 25-0, I believe. He did it at 3 different weight classes from Jr Lightweight to Jr Welterweight. I thought that Sweet Pea was not able to withstand Chavez' power and extraordinary body attack. I was totally wrong! Sweet Pea gave a performance of the ages! At the time, I could not admit that he dominated my favorite fighter. But, now seeing the replays of that fight, it was a MASTERPIECE! And a masterpiece it was! I was even surprised of how even Pernell was stronger than Chavez on the inside. In Chavez' terrain. He beat Chavez in Chavez' own game by giving him angles and not an easy target to cleanly hit. The disappointment was that it ended in a draw, robbing Whitaker's most glorious night.

10. Bernard Hopkins vs Felix "Tito" Trinidad: I really didn't know The Executioner's career until that point in time before facing one of boxing's most sensational bangers ever in Tito. Tito was a KO artist that produced some chilling knockouts in 3 different weight classes. The total anhiliation he gave champion William Joppy was stunning. Can Bernard take Tito's best shots? It seemed that he did. He smothered those shots fighting inside and not giving Tito an easy target to hit cleanly. But, it was a complete masterpiece. And like what Pretty Boy Floyd did to Chico months earlier, it is one of the best performances by any fighter of the last 18 years. He took Tito apart, bit by bit, especially with the jab. And he proved to be stronger than the Puerto Rican. He beat a prime boxing superstar that was undefeated in 40 fights and had a record of 19-0 in title bouts in 3 weight classifications. It was Hopkins' defining moment. He stopped Tito in the last round. He was beating Tito to the punch and Tito's father said enough when he threw the towel.

elmersalsa wrote: ↑07 Jul 2019, 10:18 8. Edwin "Chapo" Rosario vs Livingstone Bramble: I was so high on Bramble after beating Ray "Book Boom" Mancini, twice. How wrong I was about him when I thought that he was going to give Chapo the same treatment. It wasn't even a match. Rosario stopped him in only two rounds! After that, Bramble dissappeared and never again was one of the top boxers of the mid-eighties decade.

I went to the Bramble-Rosario fight live, I walked away with a new opinion of Don King: that he wasn't as smart as purported.

King billed the fight as "The Preamble to Bramble." The Bramble-Camacho fight was a done deal, all King was doing was looking to cash in twice on the fight by having a supposed 'elimination' fight first. That was smart, but . . .

The decision to match Camacho with Boza-Edwards was a good call. Boza-Edwards was a near great, at the end of his run, and deserved one more big payday, but the decision to match Bramble against Chapo was just plain dumb!

Many thought that Rosario had beaten Camacho earlier and everyone could see that he would be a tough fight for Bramble. So why have it? (I repeat myself, the Bramble-Camacho was was already a go.)

The fans were ready for Bramble-Camacho and had Bramble beaten any opponent it would have been enough to launch the big fight.

Had Bramble defeated Rosario that night IMO it wouldn't have changed the Bramble-Camacho gate (PPV buys) one bit.

At that point in time no one was still looking for Bramble to prove himself. (I repeat for a third time, Bramble-Camacho was already a go, the fans were ready to buy.)

King should have matched Bramble up against an 'opponent,' and had him score an early KO. Then the Bramble-Camacho numbers would have gotten even bigger.

King blew a million dollar fight with his poor decision in match making. I left the area thinking, he's Just not as boxing smart as he would have us believe.

P.S. I suspect that King went with Rosario because he had him under contract (probably a deal Chapo had to accept to get the Camacho fight.) but King was short sighted, seeing an opportunity to double dip by having only his fighters compete cost him the big money fight. Not smart . . .

Lmao at bramble/Camacho on ppv.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑07 Jul 2019, 18:34 Lmao at bramble/Camacho on ppv.

The timing was too early for PPV ('86) that was to make a point about the gate increasing; but you don't think that fight could have been million dollar fight; you don't think that fight could have made money as a stand alone mega fight?

APerno wrote: ↑07 Jul 2019, 18:48

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑07 Jul 2019, 18:34 Lmao at bramble/Camacho on ppv.

The timing was too early for PPV ('86) that was to make a point about the gate increasing; but you don't think that fight could have been million dollar fight; you don't think that fight could have made money as a stand alone mega fight?

It would have made money but it wouldn't be a mega cc TV fight by any stretch of the imagination. HBO main event, but definitely not a huge fight lost on a tune-up. In fact I'm sure Camacho/Rosario 2 would have been preferable to HBO.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑07 Jul 2019, 18:53

APerno wrote: ↑07 Jul 2019, 18:48

The timing was too early for PPV ('86) that was to make a point about the gate increasing; but you don't think that fight could have been million dollar fight; you don't think that fight could have made money as a stand alone mega fight?

It would have made money but it wouldn't be a mega cc TV fight by any stretch of the imagination. HBO main event, but definitely not a huge fight lost on a tune-up. In fact I'm sure Camacho/Rosario 2 would have been preferable to HBO.

No! Can't agree there was a buzz around Bramble that was much bigger than Camacho-Rosario II -- You're thinking like a fight fan, no doubt that was the better fight, but not with the general public. Bramble was a (short term) sensation.

APerno wrote: ↑07 Jul 2019, 19:50

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑07 Jul 2019, 18:53

It would have made money but it wouldn't be a mega cc TV fight by any stretch of the imagination. HBO main event, but definitely not a huge fight lost on a tune-up. In fact I'm sure Camacho/Rosario 2 would have been preferable to HBO.

No! Can't agree there was a buzz around Bramble that was much bigger than Camacho-Rosario II -- You're thinking like a fight fan, no doubt that was the better fight, but not with the general public. Bramble was a (short term) sensation.

No, I'm thinking realistically. You're in a fantasy land.

I picked Barrera over Hamed and felt very smug afterwards. Had a feeling Rahman was going to KO Lewis in South Africa too. Was on a great run of form.

Following year I picked Mercer over Klitschko and Moorer over Tua.

I also watched the weigh in for Bowe/Holyfield III and predicted Evander would win easily because of the respective physiques.

overhand_right wrote: ↑09 Jul 2019, 07:23 I picked Barrera over Hamed and felt very smug afterwards. Had a feeling Rahman was going to KO Lewis in South Africa too. Was on a great run of form.

Following year I picked Mercer over Klitschko and Moorer over Tua.

Uh huh...see...ya got greedy