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A Little Gene Fullmer and Spider Webb

Posted: 09 Jul 2019, 18:22
by APerno
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Re: A Little Gene Fullmer and Spider Webb

Posted: 09 Jul 2019, 18:30
by APerno
Fullmer's home coming fight, but NBC blacked out the fight in Utah; guess they didn't trust the Mormons to back Fullmer with dollars.

Re: A Little Gene Fullmer and Spider Webb

Posted: 10 Jul 2019, 02:25
by evrenb
Thanks for posting this. :bag:

Re: A Little Gene Fullmer and Spider Webb

Posted: 10 Jul 2019, 11:06
by APerno
Trying to sneak a little history in, between rounds (fantasy match-ups). ;-)

Re: A Little Gene Fullmer and Spider Webb

Posted: 12 Jul 2019, 16:55
by elmersalsa
Spider Webb must be very good.

Re: A Little Gene Fullmer and Spider Webb

Posted: 12 Jul 2019, 17:37
by APerno
elmersalsa wrote: 12 Jul 2019, 16:55 Spider Webb must be very good.
some consider him underrated -- I don't enough about him to really comment, but I know over on he other forum he has a big fan --

Re: A Little Gene Fullmer and Spider Webb

Posted: 12 Jul 2019, 22:58
by Ambling Alp II
He was a serious contender in an era where the middleweight division was loaded. The guy had wins over Tiger and Giardello for starters. He retired fairly early, but he was very good.

Re: A Little Gene Fullmer and Spider Webb

Posted: 15 Jul 2019, 13:41
by Cojimar 1946
Ambling Alp II wrote: 12 Jul 2019, 22:58 He was a serious contender in an era where the middleweight division was loaded. The guy had wins over Tiger and Giardello for starters. He retired fairly early, but he was very good.
People talk about strong eras and weak eras a lot based on questionable logic but the 1950s/1960s seemed to have a lot of depth
you had
Sugar Ray Robinson
Dick Tiger
Gene Fullmer
Don Fullmer
Joey Giardello
Henry Hank
Joey Giambra
Jose Torres
Spider Webb
Charley Joseph
Carmen Basilio
Nino Benvenuti
George Benton
Rubin Carter
Jose Gonzalez
Florentino Fernandez
Joey Archer
Holly Mims
Emile Griffith
Luis Rodriguez
Gene Armstrong
etc

Re: A Little Gene Fullmer and Spider Webb

Posted: 15 Jul 2019, 14:12
by elmersalsa
Cojimar 1946 wrote: 15 Jul 2019, 13:41
Ambling Alp II wrote: 12 Jul 2019, 22:58 He was a serious contender in an era where the middleweight division was loaded. The guy had wins over Tiger and Giardello for starters. He retired fairly early, but he was very good.
People talk about strong eras and weak eras a lot based on questionable logic but the 1950s/1960s seemed to have a lot of depth
you had
Sugar Ray Robinson
Dick Tiger
Gene Fullmer
Don Fullmer
Joey Giardello
Henry Hank
Joey Giambra
Jose Torres
Spider Webb
Charley Joseph
Carmen Basilio
Nino Benvenuti
George Benton
Rubin Carter
Jose Gonzalez
Florentino Fernandez
Joey Archer
Holly Mims
Emile Griffith
Luis Rodriguez
Gene Armstrong
etc
That is why they called the 1950s and 60s decade "The Golden Era of Boxing"

Re: A Little Gene Fullmer and Spider Webb

Posted: 16 Jul 2019, 15:40
by klompton
APerno wrote: 12 Jul 2019, 17:37
elmersalsa wrote: 12 Jul 2019, 16:55 Spider Webb must be very good.
some consider him underrated -- I don't enough about him to really comment, but I know over on he other forum he has a big fan --
He got robbed against Fullmer in their first fight. The championship was much closer than the scores would indicate. You couldnt get a win over Fullmer west of the Rockies.

Re: A Little Gene Fullmer and Spider Webb

Posted: 16 Jul 2019, 16:05
by APerno
klompton wrote: 16 Jul 2019, 15:40
APerno wrote: 12 Jul 2019, 17:37

some consider him underrated -- I don't enough about him to really comment, but I know over on he other forum he has a big fan --
He got robbed against Fullmer in their first fight. The championship was much closer than the scores would indicate. You couldnt get a win over Fullmer west of the Rockies.
That was the nature of the beast back then; it was a regional game and everyone took care of their own. I guess today it depends what network; sanctioning body, or promoter you are connected to; nothing really changes but the date.

Re: A Little Gene Fullmer and Spider Webb

Posted: 29 Jul 2019, 01:06
by elmersalsa
I just saw the second fight between Gene Fullmer and Ellsworth "Spider" Webb. It was a great fight. A rough and tough contest. Fullmer didn't make it easier for nobody. He was always in your face using his will and strength on the other guy. His fights were always the same pattern. He was hard to discouraged, and difficult to outbox because he was always on top of his opponents.

Webb did good, but I think that Fullmer was a little busier than he. His management team complained that it was a hometown decision win for The Cyclone, but I think that Fullmer won that fight fair and square. I had it 145-142. Webb could have been a world champion, too. That's how deep that era of fighters was. He stopped Joey Giardello, another great fighter of the 1950s and 60s decade.