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Tbh It would make the most sense for GGG by far. At the end of the day G would fight the best mw fighter atm for the third time in Canelo and he'd cash in big time. Imo it'd be a win-win situation for GGG. For the sake of diversity GGG vs Andrade/BJS would've be interesting but what is the point for a 37-38 y/o fighter like GGG to possible spoil a third big money fight with Canelo?! What is funny is that all of a sudden these young mw's are interested to fight old GGG but when GGG was a much younger champion in 2014-2016 , all these top young middleweights were acting like GGG didn't exist. Hell! Fighters like Murray, Lemieux and Brook had much bigger balls to fight GGG than Quillin, BJS and Eubank Jr at that time. These guys being the younger top 10 rated mw's at that time next with Canelo.

There was a talk about Murata fighting GGG before Murata's loss, which actually stopped those talks. But now Murata avenged that loss in a dominant fashion, so he looks like a possible opponent for Golovkin. Probably it can become next fight of GGG. If I understand the situation correctly, Golovkin now has some demands, when it comes to making a deal for the 3rd Canelo bout. It looks like, it won't be easy to organize another GGG-Canelo bout, after all that had happened.

apollo creed wrote: ↑13 Jul 2019, 05:34 What is funny is that all of a sudden these young mw's are interested to fight old GGG but when GGG was a much younger champion in 2014-2016 , all these top young middleweights were acting like GGG didn't exist. Hell! Fighters like Murray, Lemieux and Brook had much bigger balls to fight GGG than Quillin, BJS and Eubank Jr at that time.

Quillin took the fight but Team GGG wouldn’t participate in the purse bid, so Golovkin declined the bout.

Tom Loeffler has openly admitted that Billy Joe Saunders had agreed to face GGG on two separate occasions, but it was Golovkin that declined the fight twice.

Gennadiy now flatly refuses to consider the possibility to face Billy Joe Saunders. He won’t even discuss the Brit.

Chris Eubank Jr. was willing to face GGG but couldn’t agree terms, since Eubank Sr. has had long-term issues with the Hearns. The two big UK promoters now refuse to work with the Eubanks’.

Gennadiy was perceived as being so terrifying at the time that a welterweight known as Kell Brook jumped at the chance to replace Eubank Jr. to become GGG’s opponent.

In terms of other fighters that were allegedly too scared to face GGG, no one can provide any proof that K2 submitted financial offers to Gennadiy’s big-name peers that were subsequently declined.

Now that I’ve addressed your false accusations, would you like to challenge my response?

I really hope you’re brave enough to do so.

DrDuke wrote: ↑13 Jul 2019, 05:58 There was a talk about Murata fighting GGG before Murata's loss, which actually stopped those talks. But now Murata avenged that loss in a dominant fashion, so he looks like a possible opponent for Golovkin. Probably it can become next fight of GGG.

Have we ever seen a big-name Top Rank fighter compete on DAZN, without requiring the need for a purse bid (or the fight being mandated)?

I honestly don’t know the answer to that,

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑13 Jul 2019, 06:16

DrDuke wrote: ↑13 Jul 2019, 05:58 There was a talk about Murata fighting GGG before Murata's loss, which actually stopped those talks. But now Murata avenged that loss in a dominant fashion, so he looks like a possible opponent for Golovkin. Probably it can become next fight of GGG.

Have we ever seen a big-name Top Rank fighter compete on DAZN, without requiring the need for a purse bid (or the fight being mandated)?

I honestly don’t know the answer to that,

Me too. Maybe Murata will be such?

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑13 Jul 2019, 06:00

apollo creed wrote: ↑13 Jul 2019, 05:34 What is funny is that all of a sudden these young mw's are interested to fight old GGG but when GGG was a much younger champion in 2014-2016 , all these top young middleweights were acting like GGG didn't exist. Hell! Fighters like Murray, Lemieux and Brook had much bigger balls to fight GGG than Quillin, BJS and Eubank Jr at that time.

Quillin took the fight but Team GGG wouldn’t participate in the purse bid, so Golovkin declined the bout.

Tom Loeffler has openly admitted that Billy Joe Saunders had agreed to face GGG on two separate occasions, but it was Golovkin that declined the fight twice.

Gennadiy now flatly refuses to consider the possibility to face Billy Joe Saunders. He won’t even discuss the Brit.

Chris Eubank Jr. was willing to face GGG but couldn’t agree terms, since Eubank Sr. has had long-term issues with the Hearns. The two big UK promoters now refuse to work with the Eubanks’.

Gennadiy was perceived as being so terrifying at the time that a welterweight known as Kell Brook jumped at the chance to replace Eubank Jr. to become GGG’s opponent.

In terms of other fighters that were allegedly too scared to face GGG, no one can provide any proof that K2 submitted financial offers to Gennadiy’s big-name peers that were subsequently declined.

Now that I’ve addressed your false accusations, would you like to challenge my response?

I really hope you’re brave enough to do so.

lol. Ok.

Now that you made these affirmations , you can also provide the officially public/media declarations of those names that you have mentioned.

DrDuke wrote: ↑13 Jul 2019, 05:58 There was a talk about Murata fighting GGG before Murata's loss, which actually stopped those talks. But now Murata avenged that loss in a dominant fashion, so he looks like a possible opponent for Golovkin. Probably it can become next fight of GGG. If I understand the situation correctly, Golovkin now has some demands, when it comes to making a deal for the 3rd Canelo bout. It looks like, it won't be easy to organize another GGG-Canelo bout, after all that had happened.

GGG vs Murata would be a good deal in Japan but I think GGG is all for Canelo III fight.

apollo creed wrote: ↑13 Jul 2019, 07:19

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑13 Jul 2019, 06:00
Quillin took the fight but Team GGG wouldn’t participate in the purse bid, so Golovkin declined the bout.

Tom Loeffler has openly admitted that Billy Joe Saunders had agreed to face GGG on two separate occasions, but it was Golovkin that declined the fight twice.

Gennadiy now flatly refuses to consider the possibility to face Billy Joe Saunders. He won’t even discuss the Brit.

Chris Eubank Jr. was willing to face GGG but couldn’t agree terms, since Eubank Sr. has had long-term issues with the Hearns. The two big UK promoters now refuse to work with the Eubanks’.

Gennadiy was perceived as being so terrifying at the time that a welterweight known as Kell Brook jumped at the chance to replace Eubank Jr. to become GGG’s opponent.

In terms of other fighters that were allegedly too scared to face GGG, no one can provide any proof that K2 submitted financial offers to Gennadiy’s big-name peers that were subsequently declined.

Now that I’ve addressed your false accusations, would you like to challenge my response?

I really hope you’re brave enough to do so.

lol. Ok.

Now that you made these affirmations , you can also provide the officially public/media declarations of those names that you have mentioned.

So are you saying that what I wrote isn't true? Are you saying that you don't follow the sport of boxing and wasn't aware of these facts? Are you saying that, despite me having previously discussed this matter with you, you need me to resubmit the same proof you've already seen?

I've actually had a quick look at your posting history and realised that you had actually submitted an article confirming GGG's refusal to take the Quillin fight.

And you're that stupid that you've resorted to claiming that Quillin wasn't brave enough to face GGG?

Do you not bother paying attention to your very own words? WTF!

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑13 Jul 2019, 08:30

apollo creed wrote: ↑13 Jul 2019, 07:19

lol. Ok.

Now that you made these affirmations , you can also provide the officially public/media declarations of those names that you have mentioned.

So are you saying that what I wrote isn't true? Are you saying that you don't follow the sport of boxing and wasn't aware of these facts? Are you saying that, despite me having previously discussed this matter with you, you need me to resubmit the same proof you've already seen?

I've actually had a quick look at your posting history and realised that you had actually submitted an article confirming GGG's refusal to take the Quillin fight.

And you're that stupid that you've resorted to claiming that Quillin wasn't brave enough to face GGG?

Do you not bother paying attention to your very own words? WTF!

Post here those articles son. Otherwise you are just trolling to get some attention.


"Quillin took the fight but Team GGG wouldn’t participate in the purse bid, so Golovkin declined the bout.
Tom Loeffler has openly admitted that Billy Joe Saunders had agreed to face GGG on two separate occasions, but it was Golovkin that declined the fight twice."


Articles, facts, official media interviews ???????????????

apollo creed wrote: ↑13 Jul 2019, 08:59

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑13 Jul 2019, 08:30
So are you saying that what I wrote isn't true? Are you saying that you don't follow the sport of boxing and wasn't aware of these facts? Are you saying that, despite me having previously discussed this matter with you, you need me to resubmit the same proof you've already seen?

I've actually had a quick look at your posting history and realised that you had actually submitted an article confirming GGG's refusal to take the Quillin fight.

And you're that stupid that you've resorted to claiming that Quillin wasn't brave enough to face GGG?

Do you not bother paying attention to your very own words? WTF!

Post here those articles son. Otherwise you are just trolling to get some attention.


"Quillin took the fight but Team GGG wouldn’t participate in the purse bid, so Golovkin declined the bout.
Tom Loeffler has openly admitted that Billy Joe Saunders had agreed to face GGG on two separate occasions, but it was Golovkin that declined the fight twice."


Articles, facts, official media interviews ???????????????

You posted an article about GGG refusing to face Quillin. Acknowledge that first, otherwise I won't submit the proof you've already seen regarding the Saunders situation.

Does anybody that possesses only a remote interest in the sport of boxing genuinely believe that I’m wrong about the well-publicised GGG-Saunders situation?

Yes, GGG - Saunders situation is well known. First Saunders was refusing, then Canelo/DLH were in the way.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑13 Jul 2019, 11:38

apollo creed wrote: ↑13 Jul 2019, 08:59

Post here those articles son. Otherwise you are just trolling to get some attention.


"Quillin took the fight but Team GGG wouldn’t participate in the purse bid, so Golovkin declined the bout.
Tom Loeffler has openly admitted that Billy Joe Saunders had agreed to face GGG on two separate occasions, but it was Golovkin that declined the fight twice."


Articles, facts, official media interviews ???????????????

You posted an article about GGG refusing to face Quillin. Acknowledge that first, otherwise I won't submit the proof you've already seen regarding the Saunders situation.

Does anybody that possesses only a remote interest in the sport of boxing genuinely believe that I’m wrong about the well-publicised GGG-Saunders situation?

Show the facts or it's just stirring the poo to get some attention, son.

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑13 Jul 2019, 11:50 Yes, GGG - Saunders situation is well known. First Saunders was refusing, then Canelo/DLH were in the way.

BJS is just clowning himself.

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑13 Jul 2019, 11:50 Yes, GGG - Saunders situation is well known. First Saunders was refusing, then Canelo/DLH were in the way.

Saunders refused an initial lowball offer, claiming it was a smaller purse that David Lemieux received. However, the Brit subsequently agreed TWO offers, but GGG declined the fight on BOTH occassions. Tom Loeffler confirmed both instances. I can provide a video of Billy Joe Saunders mocking Golovkin and Loeffler for "losing their pen", which was a catchphrase Gennadiy had previously used against Chris Eubank Jr.

At least we're making progress. Someone recognises the fact that Golovkin refused to face Saunders.

apollo creed wrote: ↑13 Jul 2019, 12:29

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑13 Jul 2019, 11:50 Yes, GGG - Saunders situation is well known. First Saunders was refusing, then Canelo/DLH were in the way.

BJS is just clowning himself.

What about YOUR article that YOU posted about Team Golovkin refusing a guaranteed opportunity to face Peter Quillin?

Someone other than myself, a die-hard GGG fan nonetheless, has already conceded the factual accuracy of my claims about Golovkin refusing to face Saunders after the Brit had already agreed terms.

So now I'd like to see you attack YOUR OWN words about Golovkin refusing to face Quillin?

Have you got selective amnesia about that situation also?

apollo creed wrote: ↑25 Mar 2019, 09:07 20 March 2014
'Negotiations of Gennady Golovkin and Peter Quillin fight have failed, Tengrinews report citing Oleg German, manager of the WBA and IBO champion from Kazakhstan. According to German, Golovkin has been working with HBO for a long time, while Quillin has a contract with Showtime. The boxers could not agree on the company that would broadcast the fight. Quillin’s promoters suggested having a competition between the two channels and give the winner the right to broadcast the Golovkin-Quillin fight. But GGG’s team could not agree to that....'

Was YOUR BoxRec forum account hacked that day?

Come on Apollo, let's see you aggressively ridicule YOUR OWN words!

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑13 Jul 2019, 12:35

apollo creed wrote: ↑13 Jul 2019, 12:29

BJS is just clowning himself.

What about YOUR article that YOU posted about Team Golovkin refusing a guaranteed opportunity to face Peter Quillin?

Someone other than myself, a die-hard GGG fan nonetheless, has already conceded the factual accuracy of my claims about Golovkin refusing to face Saunders after the Brit had already agreed terms.

So now I'd like to see you attack YOUR OWN words about Golovkin refusing to face Quillin?

Have you got selective amnesia about that situation also?

apollo creed wrote: ↑25 Mar 2019, 09:07 20 March 2014
'Negotiations of Gennady Golovkin and Peter Quillin fight have failed, Tengrinews report citing Oleg German, manager of the WBA and IBO champion from Kazakhstan. According to German, Golovkin has been working with HBO for a long time, while Quillin has a contract with Showtime. The boxers could not agree on the company that would broadcast the fight. Quillin’s promoters suggested having a competition between the two channels and give the winner the right to broadcast the Golovkin-Quillin fight. But GGG’s team could not agree to that....'

Was YOUR BoxRec forum account hacked that day?

Come on Apollo, let's see you aggressively ridicule YOUR OWN words!

OWNED

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑13 Jul 2019, 12:35

apollo creed wrote: ↑13 Jul 2019, 12:29

BJS is just clowning himself.

What about YOUR article that YOU posted about Team Golovkin refusing a guaranteed opportunity to face Peter Quillin?

Someone other than myself, a die-hard GGG fan nonetheless, has already conceded the factual accuracy of my claims about Golovkin refusing to face Saunders after the Brit had already agreed terms.

So now I'd like to see you attack YOUR OWN words about Golovkin refusing to face Quillin?

Have you got selective amnesia about that situation also?

apollo creed wrote: ↑25 Mar 2019, 09:07 20 March 2014
'Negotiations of Gennady Golovkin and Peter Quillin fight have failed, Tengrinews report citing Oleg German, manager of the WBA and IBO champion from Kazakhstan. According to German, Golovkin has been working with HBO for a long time, while Quillin has a contract with Showtime. The boxers could not agree on the company that would broadcast the fight. Quillin’s promoters suggested having a competition between the two channels and give the winner the right to broadcast the Golovkin-Quillin fight. But GGG’s team could not agree to that....'

Was YOUR BoxRec forum account hacked that day?

Come on Apollo, let's see you aggressively ridicule YOUR OWN words!

That is what I want to see from you, son. Good boy. You're stalking my posts like a weirdo.

No what about : "Tom Loeffler has openly admitted that Billy Joe Saunders had agreed to face GGG on two separate occasions, but it was Golovkin that declined the fight twice." ??

Where is Loeffler saying that??

apollo creed wrote: ↑13 Jul 2019, 13:44

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑13 Jul 2019, 12:35
What about YOUR article that YOU posted about Team Golovkin refusing a guaranteed opportunity to face Peter Quillin?

Someone other than myself, a die-hard GGG fan nonetheless, has already conceded the factual accuracy of my claims about Golovkin refusing to face Saunders after the Brit had already agreed terms.

So now I'd like to see you attack YOUR OWN words about Golovkin refusing to face Quillin?

Have you got selective amnesia about that situation also?

Was YOUR BoxRec forum account hacked that day?

Come on Apollo, let's see you aggressively ridicule YOUR OWN words!

That is what I want to see from you, son. Good boy. You're stalking my posts like a weirdo.

No what about : "Tom Loeffler has openly admitted that Billy Joe Saunders had agreed to face GGG on two separate occasions, but it was Golovkin that declined the fight twice." ??

Where is Loeffler saying that??

You’re essentially asking me to provide quotes of YOUR OWN posts about evidence YOU have already seen and conceded to being true.

I proved it already with the GGG-Quillin situation, by quoting YOUR words that proved Golovkin’s refusal to take the fight.

And even self-confessed GGG die-hard’s have admitted that Golovkin refused to face Saunders.

Even YOU have seen the proof and admitted that it’s true.

So why keep lying? Are you simply time-wasting or are you hoping that others are too lazy to expose your constant lies?

YOU know for certain that I can prove my claims about Loeffler admitting to GGG declining the Saunders fight twice.

So why keep asking for evidence YOU have already seen and conceded to being true?

You’ve already admitted to lying about the GGG-Quillin situation and it’s clear you’re also lying about the GGG-Saunders situation.

So why do you lie?

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑13 Jul 2019, 21:05

apollo creed wrote: ↑13 Jul 2019, 13:44

That is what I want to see from you, son. Good boy. You're stalking my posts like a weirdo.

No what about : "Tom Loeffler has openly admitted that Billy Joe Saunders had agreed to face GGG on two separate occasions, but it was Golovkin that declined the fight twice." ??

Where is Loeffler saying that??

You’re essentially asking me to provide quotes of YOUR OWN posts about evidence YOU have already seen and conceded to being true.

I proved it already with the GGG-Quillin situation, by quoting YOUR words that proved Golovkin’s refusal to take the fight.

And even self-confessed GGG die-hard’s have admitted that Golovkin refused to face Saunders.

Even YOU have seen the proof and admitted that it’s true.

So why keep lying? Are you simply time-wasting or are you hoping that others are too lazy to expose your constant lies?

YOU know for certain that I can prove my claims about Loeffler admitting to GGG declining the Saunders fight twice.

So why keep asking for evidence YOU have already seen and conceded to being true?

You’ve already admitted to lying about the GGG-Quillin situation and it’s clear you’re also lying about the GGG-Saunders situation.

So why do you lie?

"Tom Loeffler has openly admitted that Billy Joe Saunders had agreed to face GGG on two separate occasions, but it was Golovkin that declined the fight twice."

Where and when Tom said that in two separate occasions? ? Can you provide those infos or there are just your pure speculations ??

Canelo isn't fighting in September:

https://www.BS.com/canelo-figh ... ed--140945

A few interesting tweets:

Whilst it’s clear that DAZN wants to get their money’s worth out of their deal with Canelo, what is unknown is the precise terms of the deal itself.

Even though it seems likely that DAZN would have a greater say than HBO had, in terms of the calibre of opposition Canelo faces, I truly doubt that GBP would allow John Skipper to have 100% control over all aspects of the Mexican’s bouts.

I seriously doubt that DAZN would have the legal right to dictate the date, the venue and the opponent that Canelo faces for every single outing he participates in.

Who knows? I could be wrong, but if I was, then this diminishes the role that GBP plays in Canelo’s career... and I doubt that Oscar De La Hoya would allow that to happen.

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑18 Jul 2019, 12:56

lol That version of GGG from the pic would still be an appealing opponent for the young mw wolves who don't wan't to fight each other.

apollo creed wrote: ↑18 Jul 2019, 14:59

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑18 Jul 2019, 12:56

lol That version of GGG from the pic would still be an appealing opponent for the young mw wolves who don't wan't to fight each other.

BUT he still got it!