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The Elephant in the Room (VADA/UKAD)

Posted: 31 Jul 2019, 07:13
by JimStone
If Whyte was found to have metabolites of a banned substance in his system by UKAD,'s test - and nobody has spoken out to deny this is the case - unless there is a TUE admin mix up or similar e.g. UKAD not being made aware of an exemption that VADA were, surely VADA's heralded system loses credibility as they have him clear?

Two questions:-

1. Who pays for UKAD testing?

2.. Who pays for VADA testing?

Re: The Elephant in the Room (VADA/UKAD)

Posted: 31 Jul 2019, 08:16
by bynino
I would assume that it would be the promoter? I do not know why there are so many testing agencies anyway.

Re: The Elephant in the Room (VADA/UKAD)

Posted: 31 Jul 2019, 12:41
by Boxing Prospect
Dbol is in for 3 days apparently, so sounds more like UKAD got lucky. VADA won't be testing him daily.

It does lead to questions though, and some very hard ones for the testing bodies

Re: The Elephant in the Room (VADA/UKAD)

Posted: 31 Jul 2019, 13:06
by Controversial
I've Hearn say a couple of times that Whyte paid between $30,000-$40,000 to be tested by VADA

Re: The Elephant in the Room (VADA/UKAD)

Posted: 31 Jul 2019, 17:31
by ewenhay
The question for me is whether they test for the same substances at the same levels or whether they have completely different standards

Re: The Elephant in the Room (VADA/UKAD)

Posted: 31 Jul 2019, 17:35
by oogiebe
The two testing agencies draw samples on different days. VADA's last sample was taken on the 15th. UKAD's on the 17th.

Re: The Elephant in the Room (VADA/UKAD)

Posted: 31 Jul 2019, 17:37
by ewenhay
oogiebe wrote: 31 Jul 2019, 17:35 The two testing agencies draw samples on different days. VADA's last sample was taken on the 15th. UKAD's on the 17th.

Aye I know but do they test for the same substances at the same levels?

Or do they both do their own thing?

Re: The Elephant in the Room (VADA/UKAD)

Posted: 31 Jul 2019, 17:39
by tiny_acres
ewenhay wrote: 31 Jul 2019, 17:37
oogiebe wrote: 31 Jul 2019, 17:35 The two testing agencies draw samples on different days. VADA's last sample was taken on the 15th. UKAD's on the 17th.

Aye I know but do they test for the same substances at the same levels?

Or do they both do their own thing?
That's what I'd like to know

Re: The Elephant in the Room (VADA/UKAD)

Posted: 31 Jul 2019, 17:47
by bigped
The fact that whyte pays vada 30/40k a fight speaks volumes to me he’s paying there wages .
Ukad is independent and they are they ones with you on fight night before and after the fight

Re: The Elephant in the Room (VADA/UKAD)

Posted: 31 Jul 2019, 17:49
by ewenhay
bigped wrote: 31 Jul 2019, 17:47 The fact that whyte pays vada 30/40k a fight speaks volumes to me he’s paying there wages .
Ukad is independent and they are they ones with you on fight night before and after the fight
Yep. Fighters voluntarily paying for the testing is a strange concept.

Re: The Elephant in the Room (VADA/UKAD)

Posted: 31 Jul 2019, 17:51
by bigped
Definitely it would seem to some it’s like they are paying them to give them the all clear

Re: The Elephant in the Room (VADA/UKAD)

Posted: 31 Jul 2019, 17:53
by margaret thatcher
Vada has caught a load of people

Re: The Elephant in the Room (VADA/UKAD)

Posted: 31 Jul 2019, 17:54
by ewenhay
bigped wrote: 31 Jul 2019, 17:51 Definitely it would seem to some it’s like they are paying them to give them the all clear
If nothing else it raises suspicions of potential conflicts of interest

Re: The Elephant in the Room (VADA/UKAD)

Posted: 31 Jul 2019, 17:55
by ewenhay
Until boxing has one regulatory body things like this will always be murky.

And even then there's no guarantee. Look at fifa.

Re: The Elephant in the Room (VADA/UKAD)

Posted: 31 Jul 2019, 18:04
by Boxing Prospect
margaret thatcher wrote: 31 Jul 2019, 17:53 Vada has caught a load of people
How many has it caught that it's being paid by, as opposed to those they are working on behalf of the WBC or promoter for?

Re: The Elephant in the Room (VADA/UKAD)

Posted: 31 Jul 2019, 18:27
by TheGman
Boxing Prospect wrote: 31 Jul 2019, 12:41 Dbol is in for 3 days apparently, so sounds more like UKAD got lucky. VADA won't be testing him daily.

It does lead to questions though, and some very hard ones for the testing bodies
So he got tested by vada and thought thats it lets juice the ukad csme knockin two days later? I smell suspicions,whyte didnt know they were coming and thought vada was the kast test before teh fight giving him 6 days for dbol to exit his system. Fckin fraudster cheat,this is the shyte that needs rootin out from boxing

Re: The Elephant in the Room (VADA/UKAD)

Posted: 31 Jul 2019, 18:33
by margaret thatcher
I must say, prior to this it never even occured to me that Whyte rhymes with Shyte. Lovely :clap:

Re: The Elephant in the Room (VADA/UKAD)

Posted: 31 Jul 2019, 18:34
by TheGman
margaret thatcher wrote: 31 Jul 2019, 18:33 I must say, prior to this it never even occured to me that Whyte rhymes with Shyte. Lovely :clap:
Milk snatcher

Re: The Elephant in the Room (VADA/UKAD)

Posted: 31 Jul 2019, 18:43
by margaret thatcher
:oo