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BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 voting - Kownacki vs Arreola

Posted: 10 Aug 2019, 05:43
by dagilechia
Current Ranking

1. πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Tyson Fury - 28(20) 0 1 - next fight: 14.09.2019 vs πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡ͺ Otto Wallin - 20(13) 0 0 - (unranked, BoxRec's #48)

2. πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ Deontay Wilder - 41(40) 0 1 - next fight: 09.11.2019 vs πŸ‡¨πŸ‡Ί Luis Ortiz - 31(26) 1(1) 0 - (#7)

3. πŸ‡²πŸ‡½ Andy Ruiz Jr - 33(22) 1(0) 0 - next fight: 07.12.2019 vs πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Anthony Joshua - 22(21) 1(1) 0 - (#4)

4. πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Anthony Joshua - 22(21) 1(1) 0 - next fight: 07.12.2019 vs πŸ‡²πŸ‡½ Andy Ruiz Jr - 33(22) 1(0) 0 - (#3)

5. πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Dillian Whyte - 26(18) 1(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

6. πŸ‡·πŸ‡Ί Alexander Povetkin - 34(24) 2(1) 0 - next fight: 31.08.2019 vs πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Hughie Fury - 23(13) 2(0) 0 - (unranked, BoxRec's #21)

7. πŸ‡¨πŸ‡Ί Luis Ortiz - 31(26) 1(1) 0 - next fight: 09.11.2019 vs πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ Deontay Wilder - 41(40) 0 1 - (#2)

8. πŸ‡§πŸ‡¬ Kubrat Pulev - 27(14) 1(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

9. πŸ‡³πŸ‡Ώ Joseph Parker - 26(20) 2(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

10. πŸ‡΅πŸ‡± Adam Kownacki - 20(15) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

11. πŸ‡¨πŸ‡΄ Γ“scar Rivas - 26(18) 1(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

12. πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Dereck Chisora - 31(22) 9(3) 0 - next fight: TBA

13. πŸ‡­πŸ‡· Filip HrgoviΔ‡ - 8(6) 0 0 - next fight: 24.08.2019 vs πŸ‡²πŸ‡½ Mario Heredia - 16(13) 6(5) 1 - (unranked, BoxRec's #49)

14. πŸ‡©πŸ‡ͺ Agit Kabayel - 19(13) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

15. πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ Dominic Breazeale - 20(18) 2(2) 0 - next fight: TBA

Question: How are the rankings affected by πŸ‡΅πŸ‡± Adam Kownacki's UD 12 win over πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ Chris Arreola?

My vote: Kownacki stays at #10, Arreola remains unranked.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 voting - Kownacki vs Arreola

Posted: 10 Aug 2019, 05:49
by dagilechia
After this, we will probably vote on Whyte's doping issue

Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 voting - Kownacki vs Arreola

Posted: 10 Aug 2019, 05:53
by DrDuke
No change, as Arreola wasn't highly ranked.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 voting - Kownacki vs Arreola

Posted: 10 Aug 2019, 08:01
by HyacinthusTurnipseed
Question: How are the rankings affected by πŸ‡΅πŸ‡± Adam Kownacki's UD 12 win over πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ Chris Arreola?

Kownacki to #12, Arreola remains unranked

I'm not convinced that a fighter can't be downranked even in victory, and Kown was poor vs CA.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 voting - Kownacki vs Arreola

Posted: 10 Aug 2019, 08:31
by margaret thatcher
No change, Kownacki was crap but just find it hard to move him down because he's at least been active and winning.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 voting - Kownacki vs Arreola

Posted: 10 Aug 2019, 09:20
by tiny_acres
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑10 Aug 2019, 08:31 No change, Kownacki was crap but just find it hard to move him down because he's at least been active and winning.
X2
Kownacki is ok but nothing special.
But he keeps winning.
I want to see him in with Chisora

Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 voting - Kownacki vs Arreola

Posted: 10 Aug 2019, 11:26
by oogiebe
No change.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 voting - Kownacki vs Arreola

Posted: 10 Aug 2019, 14:41
by gregregegg
I'm normally against going down if you win. But a a combo of how much he got hit and how little he couldnt hurt an old weathered arreola is pretty poor. I'd rate Rivas loss alot higher than kownakis win performance wise.
- I think kownacki down to 13.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 voting - Kownacki vs Arreola

Posted: 10 Aug 2019, 15:08
by ironbeard
Kownacki to 12.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 voting - Kownacki vs Arreola

Posted: 10 Aug 2019, 15:20
by Heretic
My vote: Kownacki out.

I have been saying that Kownacki is not that good for a long time. Now we found hes level. It is half step up from totally shot Arreola.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 voting - Kownacki vs Arreola

Posted: 10 Aug 2019, 15:44
by KiwiRider
gregregegg wrote: ↑10 Aug 2019, 14:41 I'm normally against going down if you win. But a a combo of how much he got hit and how little he couldnt hurt an old weathered arreola is pretty poor. I'd rate Rivas loss alot higher than kownakis win performance wise.
- I think kownacki down to 13.
I agree. Except 13 is a bit harsh.

Kownacki down to 11

If you can't stop, drop, or completely dominate Arreola in a 12 round fight- your not "all that"
Heck, Kownacki made Arreola look good! :o
Chris Arreola has been a gatekeeper for the last 8+years. Throwing a ton of arm punches, having zero defence, and making a shot 38 year old has been/never was look good, has actually shown up Kownacki in a worse light than before the fight.
Sometimes a win is a loss.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 voting - Kownacki vs Arreola

Posted: 10 Aug 2019, 22:41
by Finkel
ironbeard wrote: ↑10 Aug 2019, 15:08 Kownacki to 12.
X2

Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 voting - Kownacki vs Arreola

Posted: 11 Aug 2019, 02:38
by Heretic
Out of our own top 15 list I would pick Kownacki to beat only Breazeale. Kabayel match could go either way. That's mostly because I don't really know him yet.

Breazeale and Kabayel are the weakest links of the list in any case. All the others I would pick to beat Kownacki. Hes Szpilka 2.0.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 voting - Kownacki vs Arreola

Posted: 11 Aug 2019, 11:56
by conan_the_cribber
Kownacki to 14.

Showed no defence and no power against Areola and came in fat. I would say he would he would be the betting underdog against everyone in the list except Breazdale, and maybe even against him.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 voting - Kownacki vs Arreola

Posted: 11 Aug 2019, 14:28
by joshj909
Kownacki to 12

Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 voting - Kownacki vs Arreola

Posted: 11 Aug 2019, 15:11
by Jonny22Kupfer
Kownacki to 13

Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 voting - Kownacki vs Arreola

Posted: 12 Aug 2019, 02:08
by morm
no change

Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 voting - Kownacki vs Arreola

Posted: 12 Aug 2019, 08:01
by dagilechia
Kownacki is better than what he showed against Arreola, he was very out of shape. He is expecting Child now so i fear that its not going to be any better in next fight.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 voting - Kownacki vs Arreola

Posted: 12 Aug 2019, 08:37
by Heretic
dagilechia wrote: ↑12 Aug 2019, 08:01 Kownacki is better than what he showed against Arreola, he was very out of shape. He is expecting Child now so i fear that its not going to be any better in next fight.
Well that explains the bit of extra weight then :twisted:

Kownacki is fun to watch and I will definitely watch hes next fight too.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 voting - Kownacki vs Arreola

Posted: 13 Aug 2019, 08:01
by dagilechia
What do you guys think, should we vote on Whyte's doping issue or should we still wait?

Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 voting - Kownacki vs Arreola

Posted: 13 Aug 2019, 08:34
by KiwiRider
dagilechia wrote: ↑13 Aug 2019, 08:01 What do you guys think, should we vote on Whyte's doping issue or should we still wait?
I don't think we will hear anything about it at all. Rivas taking legal action may not even make them test it, or tell anyone if they have. It seems to be a non issue to Hearn and Whyte. They have spun it into a non event already.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 voting - Kownacki vs Arreola

Posted: 13 Aug 2019, 08:49
by ironbeard
KiwiRider wrote: ↑13 Aug 2019, 08:34
dagilechia wrote: ↑13 Aug 2019, 08:01 What do you guys think, should we vote on Whyte's doping issue or should we still wait?
I don't think we will hear anything about it at all. Rivas taking legal action may not even make them test it, or tell anyone if they have. It seems to be a non issue to Hearn and Whyte. They have spun it into a non event already.
Good reason to vote the pr!ck out.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 voting - Kownacki vs Arreola

Posted: 13 Aug 2019, 09:19
by margaret thatcher
Ya if you voted Whyte out there would then only be 3 PED failures out of the top 7

Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 voting - Kownacki vs Arreola

Posted: 13 Aug 2019, 10:42
by joshj909
dagilechia wrote: ↑13 Aug 2019, 08:01 What do you guys think, should we vote on Whyte's doping issue or should we still wait?
Wait until there's atleast some more information. There's way too much still in the dark here.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 voting - Kownacki vs Arreola

Posted: 13 Aug 2019, 11:19
by ironbeard
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑13 Aug 2019, 09:19 Ya if you voted Whyte out there would then only be 3 PED failures out of the top 7
:maybe: Vote them all out, including the linearally drugged out PED cheat.