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I know this probably belongs elsewhere, but watching it on YouTube now.

What a fight, for a combination of skill, will, toughness did any fight ever exceed this fight?

Superlative.

What was a better fight?

Watching it again, Morales rarely was able to land a clean shot on barrera.

Was a beautiful fight.

No way Morales won the 1st fight.

Just watched pacman v Marquez 1, pacman lucky to get a draw. I gave him 1 round after the 1st, which was 10-6 on paper, except that Marquez was making a fight of it at the end of round 1.

There's a story as to why Morales and Barrerra hated each other. I remember watching an episode of 24/7 and the camera is on Robert Garcia who says JCCjr told him the tale. Apparently it was something to do with a football game when they were young. They were in opposing teams and 1 guy put a bad tackle on the other which led to the 2 teams having an all out brawl and they hated each other since. Garcia was pissing himself telling it - wish i knew what episode it was.

I was at that fight at the Mandalay Bay, most people probably won't remember Antonio Margarito v Sergio Martinez was on the undercard.
Couldn't believe they sectioned off half of the arena due to the fact it didn't sell out.
Best fight I've ever been to.

Incredible battle, think I had it a draw when I last scored it, excellent trilogy

Ricky wrote: ↑22 Aug 2019, 23:20 There's a story as to why Morales and Barrerra hated each other. I remember watching an episode of 24/7 and the camera is on Robert Garcia who says JCCjr told him the tale. Apparently it was something to do with a football game when they were young. They were in opposing teams and 1 guy put a bad tackle on the other which led to the 2 teams having an all out brawl and they hated each other since. Garcia was pissing himself telling it - wish i knew what episode it was.

I thought it was because Morales was a poor kid and Barrera was from an well off family.

Amazing fight, but the result was iffy, both great fighters, MAB was brilliant, loved it when he taught Naz some manners.

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑22 Aug 2019, 22:29 Just watched pacman v Marquez 1, pacman lucky to get a draw. I gave him 1 round after the 1st, which was 10-6 on paper, except that Marquez was making a fight of it at the end of round 1.

Such a weird fight, could have been called off in the first and denied us the four fights and the spectacular knock out at the end.

I still think 3 was a huge robbery. Márquez boxed his head off!

Covfefe wrote: ↑23 Aug 2019, 05:16
Such a weird fight, could have been called off in the first and denied us the four fights and the spectacular knock out at the end.

I thought that too, imagine if that had been in a British ring with Terry O'Connor as the ref

banjo wrote: ↑23 Aug 2019, 05:20

Covfefe wrote: ↑23 Aug 2019, 05:16
Such a weird fight, could have been called off in the first and denied us the four fights and the spectacular knock out at the end.

I thought that too, imagine if that had been in a British ring with Terry O'Connor as the ref

It would have been stopped when they touched gloves!

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑23 Aug 2019, 06:27

banjo wrote: ↑23 Aug 2019, 05:20

I thought that too, imagine if that had been in a British ring with Terry O'Connor as the ref

It would have been stopped when they touched gloves!

banjo wrote: ↑23 Aug 2019, 02:47

Ricky wrote: ↑22 Aug 2019, 23:20 There's a story as to why Morales and Barrerra hated each other. I remember watching an episode of 24/7 and the camera is on Robert Garcia who says JCCjr told him the tale. Apparently it was something to do with a football game when they were young. They were in opposing teams and 1 guy put a bad tackle on the other which led to the 2 teams having an all out brawl and they hated each other since. Garcia was pissing himself telling it - wish i knew what episode it was.

I thought it was because Morales was a poor kid and Barrera was from an well off family.

Thats the story I heard,Barrera was from a better part of town than Morales and thats why they hated each other

thechump wrote: ↑23 Aug 2019, 06:39

banjo wrote: ↑23 Aug 2019, 02:47

I thought it was because Morales was a poor kid and Barrera was from an well off family.

Thats the story I heard,Barrera was from a better part of town than Morales and thats why they hated each other

They're not even from the same town, Morales is from Tijuana, Barrera is from Mexico City on the opposite side of the country.

I think JCCjr is talking crap

Covfefe wrote: ↑23 Aug 2019, 05:16

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑22 Aug 2019, 22:29 Just watched pacman v Marquez 1, pacman lucky to get a draw. I gave him 1 round after the 1st, which was 10-6 on paper, except that Marquez was making a fight of it at the end of round 1.

Such a weird fight, could have been called off in the first and denied us the four fights and the spectacular knock out at the end.

I still think 3 was a huge robbery. Márquez boxed his head off!

I was so happy when Marquez sparked him. I thought he won all their previous fights.

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑23 Aug 2019, 07:06

Covfefe wrote: ↑23 Aug 2019, 05:16

Such a weird fight, could have been called off in the first and denied us the four fights and the spectacular knock out at the end.

I still think 3 was a huge robbery. Márquez boxed his head off!

I was so happy when Marquez sparked him. I thought he won all their previous fights.

It’s been so long I don’t remember how I scored 1 & 2, but I did feel three was a robbery, Marquez boxed his head off for me. I jumped out of my seat with joy watching the end of the fourth, he earned that, it was one of those knockouts that we’ll be watching for ages too. It wasn’t controversial at all it was the full stop and definitive ending to their fights for me. Márquez was class.

Without wanting to dilute his achievements I did feel Marquez's size was as suspicious as Pacquiao's was throughout his onslaught of welterweight.

banjo wrote: ↑23 Aug 2019, 06:42

thechump wrote: ↑23 Aug 2019, 06:39

Thats the story I heard,Barrera was from a better part of town than Morales and thats why they hated each other

They're not even from the same town, Morales is from Tijuana, Barrera is from Mexico City on the opposite side of the country.

Ye? i didnt know just knew Barrera was from a better place or better up bringing than Morales. Was a good trilogy tho

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑23 Aug 2019, 06:27

banjo wrote: ↑23 Aug 2019, 05:20

I thought that too, imagine if that had been in a British ring with Terry O'Connor as the ref

It would have been stopped when they touched gloves!

Barrera Morales 1 is my favourite fight ever, partly because they're two of my favourite fighters ever, especially MAB.

I had this fight on DVD and Ian Darke opened his commentary with the great line "Well,the adrenaline is flowing here as the fighters prepare to walk to the ring...."

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑22 Aug 2019, 20:03 I know this probably belongs elsewhere, but watching it on YouTube now.

What a fight, for a combination of skill, will, toughness did any fight ever exceed this fight?

Superlative.

What was a better fight?

Exceed, no, it's almost the perfect fight, especially if you put "skill" as a factor. Comparable is the legendary Thrilla in Manila, Ali vs Frazier and the great fight Vasquez vs Marquez 3, although 1 and 2 are also great.

banjo wrote: ↑23 Aug 2019, 06:44 I think JCCjr is talking crap

Why? It could be that they (along with other up and coming kids) were on some sort of boxing boys trip - like a team GB type thing? A lot of british pros the now know each other very well from am tournaments etc.

Ricky wrote: ↑23 Aug 2019, 12:32
Why? It could be that they (along with other up and coming kids) were on some sort of boxing boys trip - like a team GB type thing? A lot of british pros the now know each other very well from am tournaments etc.

Possibly yes but then for both of them to become professional, world class boxers around the same weight division and meet in a trilogy of fights is pushing it a bit I think, it would be good if it was true but it seems a bit Hollywood to me and the fact I've never heard that story before even when their rivalry was at it's most heated makes me very skeptical.