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Is Callum Smith Overated or Underated ? **POLL**

Posted: 03 Sep 2019, 14:53
by SAPFO
Where are we with Calllum Smith?

I think his ability is underrated. IIRC, people are always suggesting his fights will be a 'test'. He then goes and dispatches the opponent with relative ease.

Eddie don't seem too keen to push him, which suggests that he don't think Callum is financial draw, and can't Gove them what they want, so are JG & Callum 'over-rating' Callum's financial puling power? And this has led to the stall?


He needs to get himself into the WBC rankings & fight the winner of Direll vs Benevidez. Forget hanging around fort BJS & Canelo for now. Eddie is clearly up BJS arse for now so wont risk him.

Re: Is Callum Smith Overated or Underated ? **POLL**

Posted: 03 Sep 2019, 14:54
by oogiebe
Neither.

Re: Is Callum Smith Overated or Underated ? **POLL**

Posted: 03 Sep 2019, 14:54
by Coco
Under Promoted!

Re: Is Callum Smith Overated or Underated ? **POLL**

Posted: 03 Sep 2019, 14:54
by oogiebe
Coco wrote: 03 Sep 2019, 14:54 Under Promoted!
Yes! :OhYes:

Re: Is Callum Smith Overated or Underated ? **POLL**

Posted: 03 Sep 2019, 14:59
by kbackup408
buddy coco got that one spot on - under promoted :TU:

very odd situation both usyk and smith won the WBSS however careers have gone opposite directions.

Re: Is Callum Smith Overated or Underated ? **POLL**

Posted: 03 Sep 2019, 15:06
by margaret thatcher
Rated just fine overall I think. Clearly he's not been promoted right. Fair play the WBSS money was serious, but he should've taken off since then when he's basically stagnated totally.

Re: Is Callum Smith Overated or Underated ? **POLL**

Posted: 03 Sep 2019, 15:23
by KiwiRider
He is the most proven of the current SMW division.
He blasted through a fresher Rocky in one round, it took Canelo 3.
Stopped Groves on his career best roll.
Won and defended the British.
Won the Euro
Won 2 world titles
Undefeated with a 73% KO record.
Is huge but always makes weight.
Is boxrec #1 by a large margin.

He isn't under or over rated. He is proven.

Re: Is Callum Smith Overated or Underated ? **POLL**

Posted: 03 Sep 2019, 15:25
by mickey1975
He got serious money for a very easy run in the WBSS. Braehmer pulling out and a kickboxer stepping in then an injured Groves.

Re: Is Callum Smith Overated or Underated ? **POLL**

Posted: 03 Sep 2019, 15:52
by cormack
jurys out as he hasnt been in with anybody meaningful - groves was shot and carrying a war wound ..

Re: Is Callum Smith Overated or Underated ? **POLL**

Posted: 03 Sep 2019, 15:52
by Twinkle Toes
Jury still out for me.

Obviously a talented fighter, but his best win is over a faded and injured Groves and even then it was fairly competitive until Groves decided he'd had enough.

A fight with Billy Joe would be a better indication.

Re: Is Callum Smith Overated or Underated ? **POLL**

Posted: 03 Sep 2019, 15:55
by Coco
Twinkle Toes wrote: 03 Sep 2019, 15:52 Jury still out for me.

Obviously a talented fighter, but his best win is over a faded and injured Groves and even then it was fairly competitive until Groves decided he'd had enough.

A fight with Billy Joe would be a better indication.
I bet Eddie will put BJS on PPV

Re: Is Callum Smith Overated or Underated ? **POLL**

Posted: 03 Sep 2019, 15:57
by 3132DW
Coco wrote: 03 Sep 2019, 15:55
Twinkle Toes wrote: 03 Sep 2019, 15:52 Jury still out for me.

Obviously a talented fighter, but his best win is over a faded and injured Groves and even then it was fairly competitive until Groves decided he'd had enough.

A fight with Billy Joe would be a better indication.
I bet Eddie will put BJS on PPV
If they can both keep winning that’ll be Anfield 1st week in May for sure on PPV.

Re: Is Callum Smith Overated or Underated ? **POLL**

Posted: 03 Sep 2019, 16:48
by deadpan
Over.

I think he'd be 0-7 against

Benn
Collins
Eubank
Calzaghe
Froch
Watson
Graham

Re: Is Callum Smith Overated or Underated ? **POLL**

Posted: 03 Sep 2019, 16:48
by deadpan
Over.

I think he'd be 0-7 against

Benn
Collins
Eubank
Calzaghe
Froch
Watson
Graham

Re: Is Callum Smith Overated or Underated ? **POLL**

Posted: 03 Sep 2019, 16:49
by margaret thatcher
deadpan wrote: 03 Sep 2019, 16:48 Over.

I think he'd be 0-7 against

Benn
Collins
Eubank
Calzaghe
Froch
Watson
Graham
What do you think most people put him at with those 7?

Re: Is Callum Smith Overated or Underated ? **POLL**

Posted: 03 Sep 2019, 17:18
by deadpan
margaret thatcher wrote: 03 Sep 2019, 16:49
deadpan wrote: 03 Sep 2019, 16:48 Over.

I think he'd be 0-7 against

Benn
Collins
Eubank
Calzaghe
Froch
Watson
Graham
What do you think most people put him at with those 7?
I should have added Woodhall, Reid and Degale.

Re: Is Callum Smith Overated or Underated ? **POLL**

Posted: 03 Sep 2019, 17:30
by dr_devious
He gets too much credit for battering an over the hill Groves imo. The rest of his record isn't that impressive although he's probably the best in a fairly weak SMW division presently

Re: Is Callum Smith Overated or Underated ? **POLL**

Posted: 03 Sep 2019, 17:37
by oogiebe
dr_devious wrote: 03 Sep 2019, 17:30 He gets too much credit for battering an over the hill Groves imo. The rest of his record isn't that impressive although he's probably the best in a fairly weak SMW division presently
I think he passes the eye test though. Big and skilled. Just needs the big fights to prove his worth.

Re: Is Callum Smith Overated or Underated ? **POLL**

Posted: 03 Sep 2019, 18:16
by stujones
At the moment it's over....he has 1 true world class win against a fighter who wasn't holding the ring belt....but he's now ring champion and talking like he's undisputed champion....i think all current champions will test him and show if he is under or over rated

Re: Is Callum Smith Overated or Underated ? **POLL**

Posted: 03 Sep 2019, 20:10
by ironbeard
Over and under, but not by me. He is a major load for any SMW.

Re: Is Callum Smith Overated or Underated ? **POLL**

Posted: 04 Sep 2019, 03:59
by JimStone
None of the Smiths have the x factor. I can't put my finger on exactly why but they don't and never have. It makes promoting them very difficult irrespective of how good they were/are.

Callum is lucky that the tournament format popped up when it did and he took his chance brilliantly and made a fortune.

Re: Is Callum Smith Overated or Underated ? **POLL**

Posted: 04 Sep 2019, 06:00
by SAPFO
oogiebe wrote: 03 Sep 2019, 17:37
dr_devious wrote: 03 Sep 2019, 17:30 He gets too much credit for battering an over the hill Groves imo. The rest of his record isn't that impressive although he's probably the best in a fairly weak SMW division presently
I think he passes the eye test though. Big and skilled. Just needs the big fights to prove his worth.
He wants toe big fights, that the issue. We wont know how good until he's in deep. I agree, his record is not a death row, but thats not his fault. Maybe he should do a DeGale & go & travel?

Re: Is Callum Smith Overated or Underated ? **POLL**

Posted: 04 Sep 2019, 10:42
by TheGman
deadpan wrote: 03 Sep 2019, 17:18
margaret thatcher wrote: 03 Sep 2019, 16:49

What do you think most people put him at with those 7?
I should have added Woodhall, Reid and Degale.
So you think robin reid richie woodhall and degale would beat smith?

Re: Is Callum Smith Overated or Underated ? **POLL**

Posted: 04 Sep 2019, 10:56
by Coco
thechump wrote: 04 Sep 2019, 10:42
deadpan wrote: 03 Sep 2019, 17:18

I should have added Woodhall, Reid and Degale.
So you think robin reid richie woodhall and degale would beat smith?
All 3 are top fighters

Re: Is Callum Smith Overated or Underated ? **POLL**

Posted: 04 Sep 2019, 11:05
by TheGman
Coco wrote: 04 Sep 2019, 10:56
thechump wrote: 04 Sep 2019, 10:42
So you think robin reid richie woodhall and degale would beat smith?
All 3 are top fighters
I think callum would of beaten Reid and woodhall,i like the two of them but just think smith would beat them,degale im stuck on the fence with but would of been a good fight.