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Otto Wallin
Posted: 17 Sep 2019, 13:59
by cormack
After his surprising performance against Fury - who would you like to see him fight ?
I am thinking Dubois / Hunter / Hrgovic / Yoka .
Re: Otto Wallin
Posted: 17 Sep 2019, 14:02
by ironbeard
stevec@france wrote: ↑17 Sep 2019, 13:59
After his surprising performance against Fury - who would you like to see him fight ?
I am thinking Dubois / Hunter / Hrgovic / Yoka .
Arreola.
Re: Otto Wallin
Posted: 17 Sep 2019, 14:27
by boxing_rocks
Yep, Arreola/Stiverne/Kuzmin are about his level.
Re: Otto Wallin
Posted: 17 Sep 2019, 17:58
by chuck9788
I'd like Wallin to face Oscar Rivas or maybe even Adam Kownacki. At the very least David Price should be a possible option.
Re: Otto Wallin
Posted: 17 Sep 2019, 18:17
by oogiebe
Wallin should fight Hrgovic.
Re: Otto Wallin
Posted: 17 Sep 2019, 20:52
by dagilechia
Usyk
Re: Otto Wallin
Posted: 17 Sep 2019, 21:41
by Contendeh
Joe Parker
Re: Otto Wallin
Posted: 17 Sep 2019, 22:14
by boxing_rocks
Usyk will toy with him. Parker beats him easily. The guy is not on that level.
Re: Otto Wallin
Posted: 17 Sep 2019, 23:25
by ironbeard
Arreola is the perfect test for Wallin. Why throw him into a fight that he likely loses. Give him something winnable that gets him valuable experience. Arreola fits that part, deserves another payday, and could beat Wallin..
Re: Otto Wallin
Posted: 17 Sep 2019, 23:40
by margaret thatcher
Would like to see him vs Joyce, Hrg, or Dub
or maybe Rivas or Kownacki
Re: Otto Wallin
Posted: 18 Sep 2019, 03:39
by Lackeos
He fought like a #8-10 guy against Fury. In reality he's probably #15-20. If you want to see him in a totally 50/50 fight, then he should be matched-up with other guys in that ballpark like Joyce, Hunter, Kabayel, Hughie, Hammer, Breazeale, Hrgovic. Before he steps back up, if you want to see him get a highly probably win and a solid test, then he could be matched with Kean, Kuzmin, Szpilka, Helenius, or Price.
Re: Otto Wallin
Posted: 18 Sep 2019, 03:40
by cormack
boxing_rocks wrote: ↑17 Sep 2019, 22:14
Usyk will toy with him. Parker beats him easily. The guy is not on that level.
how do we define his level ?
Fury is / was supposed to be a top 3 guy ( although I dont agree )
And wallin stayed with him for 12
Re: Otto Wallin
Posted: 18 Sep 2019, 04:25
by Ruthless-RKO
stevec@france wrote: ↑18 Sep 2019, 03:40
boxing_rocks wrote: ↑17 Sep 2019, 22:14
Usyk will toy with him. Parker beats him easily. The guy is not on that level.
how do we define his level ?
Fury is / was supposed to be a top 3 guy ( although I dont agree )
And wallin stayed with him for 12
So? Fights go 12 rounds all the time. The Schwarz fight misled people to think Fury always finishes his opponents. Truth is, he isn’t one to always finish his opponents.
Re: Otto Wallin
Posted: 18 Sep 2019, 05:42
by dagilechia
boxing_rocks wrote: ↑17 Sep 2019, 22:14
Usyk will toy with him. Parker beats him easily. The guy is not on that level.
You are probably right, he would've been a better opponent than Spong though.
Re: Otto Wallin
Posted: 18 Sep 2019, 07:15
by Ricky
Who cares, he's a total bum.
Re: Otto Wallin
Posted: 18 Sep 2019, 09:30
by boxing_rocks
stevec@france wrote: ↑18 Sep 2019, 03:40
boxing_rocks wrote: ↑17 Sep 2019, 22:14
Usyk will toy with him. Parker beats him easily. The guy is not on that level.
how do we define his level ?
Fury is / was supposed to be a top 3 guy ( although I dont agree )
And wallin stayed with him for 12
First Fury was carrying him, and then the cut changed everything. Besides, Fury is not a good offensive fighter.
Re: Otto Wallin
Posted: 18 Sep 2019, 14:13
by DrDuke
Fury bout was tough. After such fight he should face someone about gatekeeper level. Arreola, Washington, Helenius, whatsoever.
Re: Otto Wallin
Posted: 18 Sep 2019, 14:26
by snake33
That would have been an entirely one sided fight without the cut.
And even with the cut (a double major one) it went twelve.
Wallin could develop into a solid mid level fighter but he will
never be a top guy. So, find him any mid level guy and let
him have at it.
Re: Otto Wallin
Posted: 18 Sep 2019, 14:35
by ValMar
His limit is #15 HW.
Re: Otto Wallin
Posted: 18 Sep 2019, 15:42
by chuck9788
boxing_rocks wrote: ↑18 Sep 2019, 09:30
stevec@france wrote: ↑18 Sep 2019, 03:40
how do we define his level ?
Fury is / was supposed to be a top 3 guy ( although I dont agree ) And wallin stayed with him for 12
First Fury was carrying him, and t
hen the cut changed everything.
Watching the fight I couldn't help but be reminded of "Rocky 4" .....
Commentator : "He's cut! He's cut! The Russians cut, and it's a bad cut and now it's Rocky Balboa coming after Ivan Drago"!
Rocky's trainer : "You've got him hurt bad. Now he's worried ... YOU CUT HIM, YOU HURT HIM! YOU SEE?!? HE'S NOT A MACHINE, HE'S A MAN"!
Re: Otto Wallin
Posted: 18 Sep 2019, 15:56
by tiny_acres
chuck9788 wrote: ↑18 Sep 2019, 15:42
boxing_rocks wrote: ↑18 Sep 2019, 09:30
First Fury was carrying him, and t
hen the cut changed everything.
Watching the fight I couldn't help but be reminded of "Rocky 4" .....
Commentator : "He's cut! He's cut! The Russians cut, and it's a bad cut and now it's Rocky Balboa coming after Ivan Drago"!
Rocky's trainer : "You've got him hurt bad. Now he's worried ... YOU CUT HIM, YOU HURT HIM! YOU SEE?!? HE'S NOT A MACHINE, HE'S A MAN"!
I thought of that scene also while watching it
Re: Otto Wallin
Posted: 18 Sep 2019, 16:39
by Paci
DrDuke wrote: ↑18 Sep 2019, 14:13
Fury bout was tough. After such fight he should face someone about gatekeeper level. Arreola, Washington, Helenius, whatsoever.
Yeah, somebody that can be a solid test. A fight with Helenius would be good in a Scandinavian context since Swedes and Finns love to puck at one and other.
Re: Otto Wallin
Posted: 18 Sep 2019, 18:31
by gilgamesh
chuck9788 wrote: ↑17 Sep 2019, 17:58
I'd like Wallin to face Oscar Rivas or maybe even Adam Kownacki. At the very least David Price should be a possible option.
These are solid suggestions.
Re: Otto Wallin
Posted: 18 Sep 2019, 18:56
by Kronkpride
I'd book him vs Samuel Peter and have Helenius fight someone on the same card to get a victory and them match them up afterwards in their neck of the woods. He has a name now...Sam Peter is whose necks and has a name there for fighting Helenius and being a former champ. Decent name value scalp with almost no risk while also a decent name for building the next fight with Helenius. His name value has skyrocketed all over but it has to be even hotter at home. He could bring down some good bucks in those 2 fights. I think Helenius would be a tough one though. Enough money in it though to take that risk.
Re: Otto Wallin
Posted: 18 Sep 2019, 18:58
by gilgamesh
Kronkpride wrote: ↑18 Sep 2019, 18:56
I'd book him vs Samuel Peter and have Helenius fight someone on the same card to get a victory and them match them up afterwards in their neck of the woods. He has a name now...Sam Peter is whose necks and has a name there for fighting Helenius and being a former champ. Decent name value scalp with almost no risk while also a decent name for building the next fight with Helenius. His name value has skyrocketed all over but it has to be even hotter at home. He could bring down some good bucks in those 2 fights. I think Helenius would be a tough one though. Enough money in it though to take that risk.
Helenius ain't tough anymore. He lost to Gerald Washington recently.
Your suggestions of who he should fight seem like you quit watching Boxing in 2010 or something. Peter and Helenius aren't Top 20 anymore. Probably not Top 30.