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how far can/has a boxer go/gone without the backing of a big time promoter. has anyone been loyal enough to their grass roots and made it to the very top by being their own man.

my example would be the haye/booth combo. they remained free agents and piggy backed some good promoters. they refused 'options' deals etc and shook the world. but haye was an amateur sensation.........so he had the momentum the moment he turned over.

but has anyone gone from absolute grass roots to silk suits?

Haye/Booth is one of the best examples you’re gonna get. They fought under co-Promotions with different promoters. They fought on every channel they could.

Overall. Did well.

Fascinating question and I'd be very interested to see examples of this where the fighters were not decorated amateurs

ender77 wrote: ↑22 Sep 2019, 09:27 Ray Leonard never had an exclusive agreement with any promoter and remained a free agent throughout his career.

Mike Trainer, Ray's lawyer did a lot of his renegotiating. Ray is one of the few top boxers to leave the sport with his brains and money intact.

Charlie Zelenoff.

mercman wrote: ↑22 Sep 2019, 13:14

rhino222 wrote: ↑22 Sep 2019, 08:38 how far can/has a boxer go/gone without the backing of a big time promoter. has anyone been loyal enough to their grass roots and made it to the very top by being their own man.

my example would be the haye/booth combo. they remained free agents and piggy backed some good promoters. they refused 'options' deals etc and shook the world. but haye was an amateur sensation.........so he had the momentum the moment he turned over.

but has anyone gone from absolute grass roots to silk suits?

Pat Barrett.

Pat was with Mickey Duff

Felt Shufflers wrote: ↑22 Sep 2019, 09:02 I'm not quite sure, but I am familiar with capital letters and how/where to use them.

i did not realise it was an english grammar forum. go fornicate yourself.

Clinton Woods

rhino222 wrote: ↑22 Sep 2019, 14:48

Felt Shufflers wrote: ↑22 Sep 2019, 09:02 I'm not quite sure, but I am familiar with capital letters and how/where to use them.

i did not realise it was an english grammar forum. go fornicate yourself.

Hey guys. F*ck f*ck f*ck f*ck f*ck f*ck

See what I'm doing there? Reads a hell of a lot better than Fornicate doesn't it which just sounds f*cking stupid.

Please everybody adopt this typing method so that I can quit reading that embarrassingly stupid bit of censorship.

Go fornicate yourself

pudenda

Allegedly.

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑22 Sep 2019, 18:34pudenda

Should that not be a capital P?

ｆｕｃｋ the establishment

Interested to see what happens with Jack Bateson. Still being promoted by his Dad seemingly. Surprised he's not been picked up by one of the big two. Especially so considering he was a Sky ambassador at one point. I think he could go beyond British level, but will need TV exposure before long you'd imagine.

Lee Haskins never had big promotional backing but late in his career won a World title and got 2 defences on sky and sky box office.

Black Sam Bellamy wrote: ↑23 Sep 2019, 08:20 Interested to see what happens with Jack Bateson. Still being promoted by his Dad seemingly. Surprised he's not been picked up by one of the big two. Especially so considering he was a Sky ambassador at one point. I think he could go beyond British level, but will need TV exposure before long you'd imagine.

He’s fighting on the Josh Warrington bill in a few weeks. Boxed on Warrington-Selby, too. He, and his dad, sell a few tickets.

jameswilson wrote: ↑23 Sep 2019, 08:51 Lee Haskins never had big promotional backing but late in his career won a World title and got 2 defences on sky and sky box office.

A few Sanigar fighters have done well, Catley the obvious one.

jameswilson wrote: ↑23 Sep 2019, 08:51 Lee Haskins never had big promotional backing but late in his career won a World title and got 2 defences on sky and sky box office.

With the greatest respect to Lee, I don't exactly think he had TV promoters kicking his door down after the Broadhurst 1 snoozefest.

For balance though, Broadhurst 2 in the Prizefighter final was a cracker. And that was the Prizefighter a few of us Boxrec members 'organised' on here, got some boxers up for it, and then put it to Hearn on twitter, who then took our ideas, and like the peacock he is, done it his way, and left out our own Londonirish, who was well up for it & in training.



viewtopic.php?f=9&t=137063&hilit=prizef ... broadhurst

Kownacki is in fact a free agent.

Didn't the American lad Sean O'Grady go the entire career managed and promoted by his dad?